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Sunsation 323 09-10-2012 07:56 PM

32 Dominator Top Speed Capabilities
 
Has anyone got a 32 Dominator over 100 MPH? If so how much horse power do you have?

AJ POWERPLAY 09-10-2012 09:35 PM

The factory did a 32 with 600's and another with 700's that were over 100... I'm sure with drive mods you could put one with 525's close to 100. Those were the twin step models though, I think with the straight bottom dominator you'd be looking at around 600/side to see 100. Dominator Scott has the hull you have and sees over 100, PM him, tell him his buddy AJ says hi ;)

jeff32 09-10-2012 10:19 PM

FYI,my 97 twins HP500 ran low 80's... like 83-84... my 2007 twin step with 496 ho ran the same...

so, not sure what it takes for 100...

my 25 ol with 502 ran 65, with whipple low 80's so 150 extra HP = 15 mph

between 600 and 650 would do I guess...

Sunsation 323 09-11-2012 05:33 AM

I'm trying to figure out if my 98 32 Dominator is tapped out on hull speed or if I just need more horsepower? I have 770HP motors now and 100 only happens once in awhile. I don't really want to change the handling of the boat by putting drive extensions but they definately help. Hoping someone out there has been where i'm at and can shed some light on the situation!

LAriverratt 09-11-2012 05:49 AM

there is a video somewhere of one going 113 at some shootout/speed run. looked but could not find it.

POWERPLAY J 09-11-2012 05:59 AM

There's a half dozen or so pre t/s that run over 100. With your hp you should be able to squeeze more out but your seriously running out of boat.

LAriverratt 09-11-2012 06:04 AM

i would think that mid 90's is a good safe speed. I have not seen that in mine and not planning on taking the steps neccesary to get there... that's just my opinion. how do the newer 32's feel in the mid 90's anyway??
you just looking for a bigger # on the top end?

POWERPLAY J 09-11-2012 06:11 AM

Feels no different than mid 80's.

Knot 4 Me 09-11-2012 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by LAriverratt (Post 3774085)
there is a video somewhere of one going 113 at some shootout/speed run. looked but could not find it.

Dragonheart ran over 100 MPH and did run at the LOTO Shootout.

http://www.dragonracing.net/dragonheart.htm

LAriverratt 09-11-2012 07:39 AM

wish i could find the video... the boat did get a little chine at one point! it was T/S hull if I'm not mistaken what year Idk

AJ POWERPLAY 09-11-2012 08:25 AM

770hp per side should definitely be over 100, maybe you are getting too much prop slip? Have you tried 5 blade props or a spacer?

SC288 09-11-2012 08:33 AM

Tell us a little bit more about your setup. Are you running standard length drives? How does your X Dimension look? What props and RPM are you turning....we can calculate your slip #'s if we have that. I have HP500's with about 550 per side in my 2003 and my best speed so far is 88.

sonickevin95 09-11-2012 05:21 PM

I was talking to a gentleman at red eyes dock bar a couple of summers ago who showed me pictures of his single step dominator and he claimed it ran like 115 mph. He lives in the southern md area and ive seen his boat talked about on these forums.... If I didnt see it talked about on here I would have remained skepticle, even though he had pics and seemed legit those are crazy numbers to be throwing out there for a 32 step hull.... If im not mistaking the post on this website at the time I read it claimed it was the fastest dominator of the generation hull to date. I forget his name and its bugging me.

sonickevin95 09-11-2012 05:23 PM

What really sucked was when he approached me he asked me how fast my boat was? Which broke my heart to be honest about how fast my boat really was, then to make me feel even worse he starts talking about his boat and showing pics..... made me feel reeeeeeeaaaaaallllllyyy slow.

Dragonheart 09-11-2012 08:47 PM

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I ran 109 on GPS with 750hp engines with vortech superchargers and 1" shorter imco extreme drives.

mgh 09-11-2012 09:27 PM

120 mph? sound feasible?

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/17286

LAriverratt 09-12-2012 06:51 AM

bravo drives?????:cartman: don't think so:lolhit:

Mentalpause 09-12-2012 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by Dragonheart (Post 3774873)
I ran 109 on GPS with 750hp engines with vortech superchargers and 1" shorter imco extreme drives.

Do you still have the Spectre? What ever happened to Dragon Heart?

Dominator Scott 09-12-2012 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Sunsation 323 (Post 3774084)
I'm trying to figure out if my 98 32 Dominator is tapped out on hull speed or if I just need more horsepower? I have 770HP motors now and 100 only happens once in awhile. I don't really want to change the handling of the boat by putting drive extensions but they definately help. Hoping someone out there has been where i'm at and can shed some light on the situation!


With 770HP per motor you certainly have the ponies to get the job done. If you are stll running stock Bravo lowers then that is whats holding you back from a consistant 100mph.
Invest in a set of Imco -2" shorty lowers because your Bravo's are whats holding you back. Even if they have nose cones on them they won't perform as well as an Imco shorty drive.
I know you don't want the Stern Jacks (drive extensions) but I can tell you they gave me a solid 5mph gain after repropping.

mgh 09-12-2012 01:10 PM

Anyone look into the 32 on pblist? White/yellow with 835 hp ea?

sonickevin95 09-12-2012 07:24 PM

I saw it and its bin for sale for a few months. Wish it we're on east coast.

Sunsation 323 09-12-2012 08:52 PM

Will the shorty drives give me more bow lift? How about the 5 blade prop, will that give me more bow lift? It feels like there is too much boat in the water, feels like it's sticking. I see the guy thats going 109 has Imco shorty's and 5 blade props too. 850 HP doesn't hurt anything either.

mgh 09-12-2012 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by sonickevin95 (Post 3775629)
I saw it and its bin for sale for a few months. Wish it we're on east coast.

Seems like a lot of boat for the money

ThunderStruck53 09-12-2012 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by sonickevin95 (Post 3774666)
I was talking to a gentleman at red eyes dock bar a couple of summers ago who showed me pictures of his single step dominator and he claimed it ran like 115 mph. He lives in the southern md area and ive seen his boat talked about on these forums.... If I didnt see it talked about on here I would have remained skepticle, even though he had pics and seemed legit those are crazy numbers to be throwing out there for a 32 step hull.... If im not mistaking the post on this website at the time I read it claimed it was the fastests dominator of the generation hull to date. I forget his name and its bugging me.

Was his name Tommy by chance?? He's known as "nitro tommy" down here! Apparently the boat has run 129.6 but that's only when he has his "race" pulleys on! We ran with him on several poker runs in a 28 skater and he never hit it. I love the guy but NO one has ever seen the boat run over 90. Just sayin.....

Dragonheart 09-12-2012 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by Mentalpause (Post 3775169)
Do you still have the Spectre? What ever happened to Dragon Heart?

Yes, I have my spectre. I was out in it this morning. The guy that bought dragonheart went to a poker run the next year got in a race with a cigatrette lost control, spun out and sank it. I don't know what he did with it after that.

POWERPLAY J 09-12-2012 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by Sunsation 323 (Post 3775697)
Will the shorty drives give me more bow lift? How about the 5 blade prop, will that give me more bow lift? It feels like there is too much boat in the water, feels like it's sticking. I see the guy thats going 109 has Imco shorty's and 5 blade props too. 850 HP doesn't hurt anything either.

Imco neutral boxes and 1 or 2" shorties. Too much bow lift and it will dance on the pad and be a hand full to drive. You could do 2" up boxes and use your lowers to save $ but might need to add spacers if it doesn't work right.

tmager 09-12-2012 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3775770)
Imco neutral boxes and 1 or 2" shorties. Too much bow lift and it will dance on the pad and be a hand full to drive. You could do 2" up boxes and use your lowers to save $ but might need to add spacers if it doesn't work right.

I agree with the boxes, will give the boat more length and cleaner water to bite.

AJ POWERPLAY 09-13-2012 12:46 AM

Boxes and shorties are going to be expensive but man they would be sweet... With the repropping also you are going to have some coin into all this though!!

Dominator Scott 09-13-2012 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by Sunsation 323 (Post 3775697)
Will the shorty drives give me more bow lift? How about the 5 blade prop, will that give me more bow lift? It feels like there is too much boat in the water, feels like it's sticking. I see the guy thats going 109 has Imco shorty's and 5 blade props too. 850 HP doesn't hurt anything either.

When I installed the Imco shorties it felt like it gave my boat more stern lift. But I am running the Stern Jacks and with the stock lowers it had too much bow lift and was a handful at 90mph. Now with the shorties it handles MUCH better. I do run the trim tabs in the water a little to keep her from chine walking at 100mph. It might be scrubbing a little speed but it's nice and stable.

sonickevin95 09-13-2012 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by mgh (Post 3775704)
Seems like a lot of boat for the money

totally agree, the guy put lots into it maybe trying to recoupe some??? its 15 years old also.

SC288 09-14-2012 09:30 AM

My 2003 was rigged with the Merc ITS Standoff Boxes (Neutral) from the factory with -2 shorties. The drives were sold off of the boat before I purchased it and was sold to me with standard length lowers. The boat hit a wall at 80....no matter what props I tried it hit the wall at 80. I had some -2's built as I knew the boat was rigged that way originally....I picked up roughly 6 - 8 MPH doing this....bottom line there was to much gear case in the water. There have been other guys with 496 HO's (Kanookster) that put -2's on their older 32's and picked up speed. Let us know what props you are running as well as gear ratio and speed and we can run the calculations etc. if you have not already.

AJ POWERPLAY 09-14-2012 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by SC288 (Post 3776791)
There have been other guys with 496 HO's (Kanookster) that put -2's on their older 32's and picked up speed.

I almost bought Claude's boat at one point, but just couldnt get him down to where i was comfortable buying it... he told me that he had a set of 32's(?) that were custom labbed by Mercury and that he saw a best of 86 with his HO's. Also said that his HO's were better on fuel than the regular 496MAG's when compared to a friends 32.
Clean boat for sure.
Im not sure how much of a difference it would make but the weekender package has a fridge and some other things... may scrub a mile per hour or so? maybe not?

SC288 09-14-2012 08:41 PM

I almost bought Claude's boat at one point, but just couldnt get him down to where i was comfortable buying it... he told me that he had a set of 32's(?) that were custom labbed by Mercury and that he saw a best of 86 with his HO's. Also said that his HO's were better on fuel than the regular 496MAG's when compared to a friends 32.
Clean boat for sure.
Im not sure how much of a difference it would make but the weekender package has a fridge and some other things... may scrub a mile per hour or so? maybe not?[/QUOTE]

It may....I have shore power, fridge and microwave on mine. I am going to chuck the microwave in the dumpster LOL

Sunsation 323 09-15-2012 08:39 PM

I have standard length Bravo ones with nose cones, 1.36 drive gear ratio and i'm running 29 pitch 4 blade labbed Bravo props. Don't know about the X dimension. I'm running about 5300 RPM and should be running 5600 to get my peak HP. It runs 98mph pretty much any time. 100 is very rare. Please calculate this for me if possible. Thanks

SC288 09-15-2012 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by Sunsation 323 (Post 3777574)
I have standard length Bravo ones with nose cones, 1.36 drive gear ratio and i'm running 29 pitch 4 blade labbed Bravo props. Don't know about the X dimension. I'm running about 5300 RPM and should be running 5600 to get my peak HP. It runs 98mph pretty much any time. 100 is very rare. Please calculate this for me if possible. Thanks

Looks like you have roughly 8% prop slip which is good. It's not to say that shorties would not help with having less gearcase in the water.I would be interested in hearing how the other big powered older hull 32's were or are setup.

Sunsation 323 09-16-2012 08:26 PM

Has anybody had any experience with super chiller inter coolers? Do they make any additional horsepower like they claim?

Filtrman 10-13-2012 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by Sunsation 323 (Post 3778033)
Has anybody had any experience with super chiller inter coolers? Do they make any additional horsepower like they claim?

I've got a buddy with a 38 Fountain running 575's with Super Chillers ......and YES......they make more power.

Filtrman 10-13-2012 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by LAriverratt (Post 3774090)
i would think that mid 90's is a good safe speed. I have not seen that in mine and not planning on taking the steps neccesary to get there... that's just my opinion. how do the newer 32's feel in the mid 90's anyway??
you just looking for a bigger # on the top end?

Your right on LAriverratt.......My 32 SSR does 93mph no matter how much fuel I have or how many bodies on board!
(Slighltly slower in the heart of the humid upstate NY summers......91.5mph) ...but very consistent since i've owned her!!
She runs's parallel to the water with just about no hull in the water....see here (First boat to pass):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIk4B...feature=relmfu

..definetely took some time to acclimate myself to running this much HP in a 32 foot boat.....but I'm confident that I could handle her at higher speeds with my drive set up...but within reason.
I did the Kingston Run in 2008 and met a Gent that had a Pre 2004 Hull Dominator that ran 117mph.......DOHHH!! He had 5 Peeps on his vessel during the run as well.


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