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carcrash 11-21-2007 02:51 PM

Who Ran What at Key West
 
I like following the racing, but one reason is to know what people ran (boats, engines, drives, etc) and how well they actually worked.

For example, what do you know about a given hull: when was it built, materials (carbon? kevlar? solid glass? nomex core? ...), construction methods (vacuum bag? post cured? hand laid up? hacked out of the carcass of three old boats?), interesting history (won before, was always a pig, ...), design aspects (extra big steps, removed rocker, ...).

The key question: Why did one boat beat another?

I am sure there are lots of stories about these boats, and those stories always make watching the races more interesting!

I hope people can fill in these details for each boat,
with hull, engines, drives, and other interesting stuff.

Superboat Unlimited:
#11 Budweiser Select:
#10 Aqua-Mania G3:
#7 Team CRC
#5 WHM Motorsports

Superboat Vee Unlimited
76 Shogren Fountain
99 Fountain Worldwide
22 Instigator
67 The Switch
69 Honeyparty.com
44 Team Taboo

Turbine
Miss Geico

Superboat 750
45 JD Byrider
57 Nichols Offshore
12 BTM Marine
38 Warpaint
US1 Reliable Carriers

Super Vee
30 Miccosukee Indian Gaming
96 Yachts Fountain
41 Predator
7 Lucas Oil

Supercat
00 Motley Crew
40 Reliable Carriers
77 Team Amsoil
07 All Jack'd Up
46 Learning the Ropes
13 Popeye

Superboat Vee Limited
51 Extreme Vortec
17 AMF Lavey Craft

Superboat Stock
S-9 TNT Racing
S-13 STIHL
S-1 Miccosukee Indian Gaming
S-111 Fluid Sealing Products
S-12 Deep V Cats
S-18 Bermuda Berry Cuda

Factory 1
F1-2 AMD Offshore Racing
F1-52 AMF Offshore Addiction

Manufacturer 1
P1-21 Cintron
P1-30 On The Chip
P1-5 Media Master
P1-29 Traffic Light
P1-8 Team Raven

Manufacturer 2
P2-33 Wazzup
P2-11 Patron Tequila Ranger
P2-60 Impulse Energy Drink
P2-1 Muscle
P2-9 Scream Machine

Manufacturer 3
P3-40 You're In Command Racing
P3-10 Mid American
P3-65 AMF Still Got It
P3-77 Wanted
P3-7 Team TKO
P3-19 Areces Rodriguez PA

Manufacturer 4
P4-45 Simmons Racing
P4-17 Team Kansas
P4-21 Dirty Pearl
P4-12 Specialized Racing
P4-31 Blue Water Realty Group
P4-32 Team Dock Blood
P4-33 Konrad Fountain of Youth
P4-2 Team Raven
P4-42 Pump It
P4-52 Crazy Greek
P4-13 Team AMF Jersey Boyz

Manufacturer 5
P5-33 Crazy Chicken
P5-1 Rum Runners
P5-17 V&M Motorsports
P5-21 Pirates Racing
P5-5 Team Velocity
P5-18 Shogun
P5-32 Outkast Racing

throttleup 11-21-2007 03:14 PM

WOW..... this is going to take a awhile....Beckly should take a shot at this!

Wardey 11-21-2007 04:33 PM

Manufacturer 5
P5-33 Crazy Chicken - 2005 Extreme 29 Shotgun, Kevlar / Carbon Fiber, HP500, vaccum bag, hand laid, single step
P5-1 Rum Runners
P5-17 V&M Motorsports
P5-21 Pirates Racing
P5-5 Team Velocity
P5-18 Shogun
P5-32 Outkast Racing

TeamTaboo 11-21-2007 04:54 PM

Superboat BTM Marine 12 is a 2005 MTI with 750 Sterling. The boat epoxy hull with a carbon deck.
Taboo in the Superboat Vee Unlimited class started out as a Super Vee, was moved up to Unlimited in June of 07, still working out the kinks. All epoxy hull and deck, Mercury 525's with Whipple chargers making about 900hp per side with Arneson drives. Boat rigged was 7400lbs., looking for 140mph. Watch the videos of the Wed. and Fri. starts to see how it accelerates.

fountainemp 11-21-2007 05:19 PM

rock on team taboo!! see yall when you come up.

bryanh 11-21-2007 05:30 PM

All Jack'd Up
2003
36 Skater
Twin 525's with bravo/Imco drive combination

throttleup 11-21-2007 06:26 PM

Nice start guys!

Julie

Wazzup Racing 11-23-2007 04:16 PM

Wazzup Racing
2002 Fountain twin step
Merc 525 bravo XR
Non epoxy boat 8020 lbs
One Bad a@@ RACE BOAT

Ryan Beckley 11-24-2007 10:50 AM

Superboat Unlimited:
#11 Budweiser Select: 50' Mystic, 1550 Sterlings, Trimax drives, rudder steering.
#10 Aqua-Mania G3: 46' Skater, 1200 Sterlings, BPM drives rudder steering
#7 Team CRC 40' MTI, Mercury Racing 1200+SCI, # 6 drives
#5 WHM Motorsports 40' Skater, Mercury Racing 850+SCI, # 6 Drives

Superboat Vee Unlimited
76 Shogren Fountain 45' Fountain, 1500+Sterlings, # 6 drives
99 Fountain Worldwide 42' Fountain, ILMOR V-10's Arneson drives
22 Instigator 42' Fountain, Mercury Supercat Motors, # 6 drives
67 The Switch 39' EXtreme,??????, #6 drives
69 Honeyparty.com 399 Skater V, Cheif 950, Arneson drives, rudder steering
44 Team Taboo 42' Fountain , Mercury 525's supercharged, Arneson drives

Turbine
Miss Geico 44 MTI, Turbine Marine powered, BPM drives rudder steering

Superboat 750
45 JD Byrider 388 Skater, CC performance 750, Weismann#6 drives
57 Nichols Offshore 44 MTI, Sterling 750s, BPM drives rudder steering
12 BTM Marine 40 MTI , Sterling 750, #6 drives
38 Warpaint 40 MPYD, Apace/Mealstrom, Bandit 750, #6 drives
US1 Reliable Carriers 40 MTI, Sterling 750, # 6 Drives

Super Vee
30 Miccosukee Indian Gaming 42 Fountain Mercury 525 #6 drives
96 Yachts Fountain 42 Fountain Mercury 525 #6 drives
41 Predator 42 Fountain Mercury 525 #6 drives
7 Lucas Oil 39 Outerlimits Mercury 525 #6 drives

Supercat
00 Motley Crew 368 Skater 525 Mercury, #6 Drives
40 Reliable Carriers 39 MTI 525 Mercury, #6 Drives
77 Team Amsoil 368 Skater 525 Mercury, #6 Drives
07 All Jack'd Up 36 Skater 525 Mercury, Bravo/IMCO
46 Learning the Ropes 39 MTI 525 Mercury, #6 Drives
13 Popeye 368 Skater 525 Mercury, #6 Drives

Superboat Vee Limited
51 Extreme Vortec 29' Extreme, GM / INNOVATION, Bravo Imco
17 AMF Lavey Craft 27 Lavey Craft, Mercury 525, NXT drive

Superboat Stock
S-9 TNT Racing 32 Doug Wright, Mercury 2.5's
S-13 STIHL 32 Doug Wright, Mercury 2.5's
S-1 Miccosukee Indian Gaming 32 Doug Wright, Mercury 2.5's
S-111 Fluid Sealing Products 30 Skater, Mercury 2.5's
S-12 Deep V Cats 32 LA Marine , Mercury 2.5's
S-18 Bermuda Berry Cuda 32 Doug Wright, Mercury 2.5's

Factory 1
F1-2 AMF Offshore Racing 29' Fountain, Mercury 500, Bravo Drive
F1-52 AMF Offshore Addiction 29' Warlock, Mercury 525, Bravo Drive

Manufacturer 1
P1-21 Cintron 42 Fountain, Stotler 1200+, #6 drives
P1-30 On The Chip 38 Fountain, JC PERF 800+, #6 drives
P1-5 Media Master 39 Outerlimits, Jaze 1000, #6 drives
P1-29 Traffic Light 37 Talon , Supercat motors, # 6 drives
P1-8 Team Raven 42 Fountain, Mercury 800++ EFI, # 6 drives

Manufacturer 2
P2-33 Wazzup 38 Fountain , Mercury 525, Bravo drives
P2-11 Patron Tequila Ranger 399 Skater, Mercury 525, #6 drives
P2-60 Impulse Energy Drink 32' Doug Wright, Mercury 2.5's
P2-1 Muscle 38 Fountain , Mercury 525, Bravo drives
P2-9 Scream Machine 35 Fountain/Skater, Griffin Power, #5 drives

Manufacturer 3
P3-40 You're In Command Racing 39 Dragon, Mercury 525, Bravo/Imco drives
P3-10 Mid American 38 Phantom , Crockett 525+, Bravo Imco drives
P3-65 AMF Still Got It 42' Apach McManus, TEAGUE 1000, #6 drives
P3-77 Wanted 36' Cigarette, Mercury 525, Bravo Imco drives
P3-7 Team TKO 39' Sutphen, ??????, #6 drives
P3-19 Areces Rodriguez PA 38 Cigarette Top Gun, Cheif Power, # 5 drives

Manufacturer 4
P4-45 Simmons Racing 34 Phanton, Mercury 500, Bravos
P4-17 Team Kansas 28 SABER, Chevy Small blocks, Bravos
P4-21 Dirty Pearl 35' Cigarette Flatdeck, ????, #3's
P4-12 Specialized Racing 30 Superboat, 2.5 Mercury Outboards
P4-31 Blue Water Realty Group 34' Phantom, Mercury 500's, Bravos
P4-32 Team Dock Blood 30 Superboat, 250XS Mercury outboards
P4-33 Konrad Fountain of Youth 33 Fountain, Scorpion Racing Engines, Konrad drives
P4-2 Team Raven 29' Scarab, Mercury Supercat Engine, BMAX drive
P4-42 Pump It 29' Warlock, Mercury 500+, Bravo drive
P4-52 Crazy Greek 38 Scarab Flat Deck, Active Blower Motors, # 3's
P4-13 Team AMF Jersey Boyz 38 Scarab (pleasure boat) Wazzup racing engines, bravo imco drives

Manufacturer 5
P5-33 Crazy Chicken 29' Extreme , Crockett 500+, Bravo / Imco drive
P5-1 Rum Runners 26 Scarab, Gellner Power, Bravo drive
P5-17 V&M Motorsports 26 Velocity, Innovation Power, Bravo drive
P5-21 Pirates Racing 27 Magnum, ??????, Bravo Drive
P5-5 Team Velocity 29 Velocity, Innovation Power, Bravo drive
P5-18 Shogun 28 Scarab, ??????, Bravo Imco drive
P5-32 Outkast Racing 24 Reindl Batboat, Mercury 277, Bravo Drive


This was all off the top of my head so some info may be wrong......

Racegirl3 11-24-2007 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Ryan Beckley (Post 2346431)
This was all off the top of my head so some info may be wrong......



Your amazing ....

FunHome 11-24-2007 12:21 PM

Damn Ryan, your the $hit!!! and I thought I knew Offshore......:rolleyes:

towhead 11-24-2007 01:24 PM

After reading that list, I want a freaking #6 drive! I don't even have a boat and I want a #6 drive. I could mount it on the wall like a stuffed animal head. Damn, I want a NUMBER SIX drive. I'd settle for a 10 year old 24' Pantera with a #6 drive, or would the drive sink it?

On a serious note:

How was a 525 allowed to race against at 500 in the F1 class?

PS. (#6 baby!!)

carcrash 11-24-2007 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by TeamTaboo (Post 2344264)
Superboat BTM Marine 12 is a 2005 MTI with 750 Sterling. The boat epoxy hull with a carbon deck.

Taboo in the Superboat Vee Unlimited class started out as a Super Vee, was moved up to Unlimited in June of 07, still working out the kinks. All epoxy hull and deck, Mercury 525's with Whipple chargers making about 900hp per side with Arneson drives. Boat rigged was 7400lbs., looking for 140mph. Watch the videos of the Wed. and Fri. starts to see how it accelerates.

I would then guess that the BTM is a e-glass and epoxy hull, carbon and epoxy deck. This seems like a sensible combination: let the glass spread the load of impact, and let the deck provide the structural stiffness.

On Taboo, it looks like the epoxy lay-up, or simply a lighter lay-up enabled by using epoxy, has saved about a thousand pounds. Is that your take?

I did not think that Fountain had ovens for cooking epoxy. How did they kick off the epoxy?

F1-00 Racing 11-24-2007 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by towhead (Post 2346518)
How was a 525 allowed to race against at 500 in the F1 class?

Ed,

That might be one of the few typoes Ryan made. I think Al was running with a 500EFI also but if it was a 525 then I will cherish my victory even more:drink:

Trent

Ryan Beckley 11-24-2007 05:11 PM

Is a 525 not legal in F1? I am not sure I thought Al's boat did. I even raced it once with Lance in Daytona, to 3rd out of 12 F1 class boats.

Trent you ran great in the Keys! Did you see the video of Still Got It and Al running into eachother?

MOBILEMERCMAN 11-24-2007 06:08 PM

Who loves this sport more than Ryan?
Jim

F1-00 Racing 11-24-2007 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Ryan Beckley (Post 2346697)
Is a 525 not legal in F1? I am not sure I thought Al's boat did. I even raced it once with Lance in Daytona, to 3rd out of 12 F1 class boats.

Trent you ran great in the Keys! Did you see the video of Still Got It and Al running into eachother?

525 was phased out in 05 when they we went with the 496's which by all accounts proved to be a disaster(great pleasure motor, I had nightmares with it as a race motor) and then in 06-tdy it went back to Merc 500EFI, Innovation 500EFI, and Crocket 500EFI as the motor options.

Yes, Al's boat is and always has been a runner, I was honestly scared out of my wits leading up to the races due to his boat being such a great runner in the ruff and my boat being a notorious calm water boat, but as you saw the offshore gods shined down on me by making it lay down some.

Thanks, but all credit has to go to O'Connor for keeping it straight and with Chris, Rick, and Maz's setup; Haggin and Scotty B behind us, I had the easy part, throttle down.

I havent seen the video yet, but I am just glad Al and Pete are ok and I cant wait to race them again, I definitly have to stay on my toes.

Trent

TeamTaboo 11-24-2007 07:11 PM

Crash you are right they do not have ovens. The hull and deck have to stay in the mold extra time and sometimes there still can be some trouble. Had to paint the boat 2 times because of the imprint showing through, You are right on the numbers on weight about 1,100lbs. saved.

carcrash 11-25-2007 10:31 AM

Are any of the boats pre-preg carbon or glass epoxy, post cured in an oven?

What kind of cores in the bottoms, sides, decks?

Rik 11-26-2007 11:53 PM

Aqua Mania 46' Skater, former Budweiser boat, has Arneson's, not BPM.

KenD 11-27-2007 11:34 AM

Ryan,

You do amaze with your intimate knowledge of race boat facts. How did you know we had a Crockett in KW?

FYI, our engine stats do get kinda complicated; in KW 2007 we ran one original 2004 engine bought from Merc but rebuilt by Innovation and CRE sealed before we took delivery, and one Merc 525 rebuilt and SBI sealed in 2007 by Crockett.

Knowing you...you will put this in your rolodex of knowledge, and 10 years from now somebody will have a question about those Phantom 38's, and this info will roll out like it was yesterday.

MOBILEMERCMAN 11-27-2007 12:13 PM

KenD,
Ryan has an offshore almanac in his head. You can ask him questions from 20 years ago. Not only does he know the boats but he also remembers the people in the boats. I find it hard to believe there is anyone how loves this stuff more. Further I nominate Ryan as the Ambassador of Offshore.
Jim

Ryan Beckley 11-27-2007 12:33 PM

OK lets not get out of hand here....

kitten 11-27-2007 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by Racegirl3 (Post 2346437)
You're amazing ....

That's what Sabrina said!


:party-smiley-004:

Gladhe8er 11-27-2007 12:56 PM

The P1 Raven boat has 988 HP engines, but they were only running on 11 combined cylinders for KW.

Racegirl3 11-27-2007 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by kitten (Post 2349850)
That's what Sabrina said!


:party-smiley-004:



LOL - you mean is saying .... :drink::p


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