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jayhawk261 06-02-2010 10:07 AM

24 Stepbottom Fuel Level Sender
 
Where in the tank is the fuel level sender on a 2000 24 Stepbottom? My guys has been looking and looking and hasn't been able to locate it by eyeballing. Is it way up underneath the floor where it can't be gotten at?

Pat McPherson 06-02-2010 11:20 AM

Yes.
Either live without a gauge or cut the floor.
Sorry,

jayhawk261 06-02-2010 11:22 AM

Why would they do that? I guess it needs to be in a specific place in the tank, but you'd think an access panel in the floor would be in order! Thanks for the info Pat!

Pat McPherson 06-02-2010 12:29 PM

It may not be that bad.
The sender may be under the back seat. The seat comes out easily.
You can cut in one of those plastic inspection ports and it will be covered when you replace the back seat.
Time for a flashlight and tape measure.

elvisali 06-02-2010 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by jayhawk261 (Post 3125218)
Why would they do that? I guess it needs to be in a specific place in the tank, but you'd think an access panel in the floor would be in order! Thanks for the info Pat!

I could have sworn on my 24 if you lifted the back seat cushion off, pulled out the storage insert, that you could see the sending unit for the tank. I thought it was glassed over and all that you could see was the metal connector that the wire connected to. I could be wrong, but thats what I remember it being like

jayhawk261 06-02-2010 01:36 PM

Does the back seat bolt in? I guess I haven't paid attention to that. I'll pass it on!

Pat McPherson 06-02-2010 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by elvisali (Post 3125347)
I could have sworn on my 24 if you lifted the back seat cushion off, pulled out the storage insert, that you could see the sending unit for the tank. I thought it was glassed over and all that you could see was the metal connector that the wire connected to. I could be wrong, but thats what I remember it being like

You had an outboard. Right?

Pat McPherson 06-02-2010 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by jayhawk261 (Post 3125367)
Does the back seat bolt in? I guess I haven't paid attention to that. I'll pass it on!

It is screwd to the floor and bolted to the side panels.

elvisali 06-02-2010 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Pat McPherson (Post 3125374)
You had an outboard. Right?

Yes, not familiar with the IO set up

FX10 06-02-2010 02:50 PM

Same tank, but is located further forward in the IO version. If you have a yard stick or something like that. You can slide it along the center of the tank till you come in contact with the sender. Then measure how far in you need to cut the hole. A inspection plate can be put over the hole. The outboard version had the sender under the rear seat storage locker.

jayhawk261 06-02-2010 03:25 PM

Thanks Rick, Pat, and Elvis for the help! I talked to him and he said he's going to see how far up it is. Since I have no carpet, the inspection cover could be a toe killer! Rick, do you know if the sender should be centered or will it be off to one side maybe under the bolster. I'm sure it will be centered!

t-islands 06-09-2010 02:05 PM

I had a problem with mine and it turned out to be almost centered under the rear seat. I cut a access hole fixed the wiring and put a access plate over the hole. I had to cut a small amount off the edge of the access place to get it to sit flat. 2005 Stepper

z.zuperboat 06-12-2010 06:34 AM

HMMMM 2000 step bottom gas tank. Made by florida marine. Modified by who ??? I know who !! My access panel is in the middle of the floor and the bevel is so small never a problem.

Pat McPherson 06-14-2010 06:50 AM

Hey Zup,
Did you install a new tank or fix the old?
Got to have you along on our Block trip this year.

jayhawk261 06-14-2010 10:27 AM

I've been out of town for a while, so I don't know if he got it handled yet or not. I'll find out if he's found it yet and post up where it is .

z.zuperboat 06-14-2010 06:35 PM

PAT We decided that the welds were so bad to cut it open and see who did what and why. Thank goodness we did. The welds had no penetration at all to the inside. And the step in the tank was an actual bulkhead, good idea but with no penetration it didnt work to well. Also the bulkhead had no holes in it to transfer fuel from the front of the tank to the back. So when I drained the tank it had 20 gallons stuck in the front, to get it out the boat needed to be put on a steep angle for fuel to get over the top into the pickup area. What a mess it was. Been leaking probably since new but you can never really tell unless you totaly top off the tank and the tank bunges discolor from fuel. I always thought it was a fitting. so they got changed from time to time. that wasnt it , it was early step bottom boats that had tanks modified to fit the new notch. It didnt really cost to much to fix only a couple thousand and the loss of last summer. At least I can put my family back on the boat with confidence knowing its not a TIME BOMB.

FX10 06-16-2010 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by z.zuperboat (Post 3133888)
HMMMM 2000 step bottom gas tank. Made by florida marine. Modified by who ??? I know who !! My access panel is in the middle of the floor and the bevel is so small never a problem.

Gas tanks in the 24's aren't modified. Standard tank. Fuel sending unit on the ones we have in stock are around 16" from the rear of the tank, center.

Pat McPherson 06-16-2010 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by FX10 (Post 3137159)
Gas tanks in the 24's aren't modified. Standard tank. Fuel sending unit on the ones we have in stock are around 16" from the rear of the tank, center.

Hey Rick,
How about the tanks in the Y2Ks?
Are they, a "standard tank"?
It takes a talented welder to weld aluminum properly and after hearing Mike's story, the mods were done by a hack.
Not looking to hijack Jay’s thread or start a fight, but it sure seems like Superboat had some questionable techniques during the late 90s early 2000s.

FX10 06-16-2010 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Pat McPherson (Post 3137351)
Hey Rick,
How about the tanks in the Y2Ks?
Are they, a "standard tank"?
It takes a talented welder to weld aluminum properly and after hearing Mike's story, the mods were done by a hack.
Not looking to hijack Jay’s thread or start a fight, but it sure seems like Superboat had some questionable techniques during the late 90s early 2000s.

Pat, the tanks in the Y2K are standard tanks, not modified. 98 gallons.

Pat McPherson 06-16-2010 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by FX10 (Post 3137378)
Pat, the tanks in the Y2K are standard tanks, not modified. 98 gallons.

Well that is good news.
Now I can again add the Y2K to the list of boats I would consider buying at some point in the future.

jayhawk261 06-16-2010 01:47 PM

Not hijacking at all Pat! Any good info that comes out here is all good with me!

z.zuperboat 06-16-2010 07:43 PM

Im sure my boat is the only boat ever built with a modified tank from the factory !!!! Being the boat is a 99 and the tank was purchased in 96 !! Tanks are easy enough to pressure check !! After seeing what was in my boat I would check all early step bottom boats including 24,s and 34,s. They only built 2 step bottom tempests, mine and one in the bahamas with outboards. If this happend to a wellcraft it would be a class action suit or a factory recall but its not.

FX10 06-18-2010 10:09 AM

[QUOTE=z.zuperboat; I would check all early step bottom boats including 24,s and 34,s. They only built 2 step bottom tempests, mine and one in the bahamas.
Mike, the step in the 24 is tiny compared to the Y2K hull. No tank has ever been modified for a 24. It uses the same tank as the un stepped model. And the 34 uses a standard rectangle tank, also unmodified. So believe me, it's not necessary to check them.
The tank in your boat was modified because the cockpit floor is lower in the Tempest model then the Y2K. With the Y2K deck, the stringers are almost 2" taller, allowing the tank to come up without modifying it.
As far as a recall. Or class action suit. I highly doubt that Wellcraft or any other manufacturer would do a recall because of one tank.

z.zuperboat 06-20-2010 06:11 AM

In the early step bottom 30,s the step was an inch . Never had a 24 so I dont know. Your saying the 24 step is less than an inch !! Easy enough to tell. Someone with a 24 can measure and let us know. If the step is less than an inch why have one at all, If its an inch and under the tank I would pressure check it to be safe. No harm in checking.
As for a recall one tank no but if theirs more Yes !! Im sure wellcraft would have done the repair for free . And John offered me nothing !!
Rick you did give me lots of great advice on the build and repair from start to finish everything except doing the job yourself. And for that your welcome on my boat anytime !!

jayhawk261 06-20-2010 06:16 PM

It seems like I measured the steps on my 24 once and it was 1" or 1 1/8". I can't remember which.


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