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what kind of speed out of a 26???
26 with a single 365 hp prety much stock motor?
it all original boat, 400 hours nice shape needs a little touch up here and there. what is it worth, what kind of speed we talking? |
what year is it?
They are worth in the 20K range. Some little higher some a little lower. I am a fan of twins but in this economy alot of people are going singles. Money should be the same I would think and the MPH with less drag should be mid to low 60's.(just a guess) My 26 with twin 200 HP mercs with some Hp tricks just went 71 MPH on GPS 2 weeks ago. previous owner says should do 73 or 74 with the timing as it is knocked back a little. |
i don't think a 26 with a single 365 can break 60. not intending to offend, but a superboat (or k/o copy) with the same hp will only do around 62-5...
jeff..i've heard higher with your set up...faster than me..:D c |
either way, some place near 60 is a good start. if i get the boat, i will pull the motor this winter, rebuild it, port the heads and redo them, throw an intake on it and maybe swap the cam. just bump it up say 30-40 hp and i should see a hard 60 on gps
ive built race motors for my race car, but i think i would keep the boat very mild, maybe a set of alum heads but nothing crazy. not looking for a headache |
take a look into turbocharging.
I am a moderatro on the forced induction part of pontiaczone.com I do a lot of turbo set ups and we make 800+ HP with ease. I ahve done some boats for guys and they are very simple to do. you can use the stock merc manifolds. stainless block off plate to mount the turbos and then you just need to make water jacketed pipes from there which is pretty simple. Witha boat you can do an air to water intercooler very easily and make big HP numbers due to the constant flow of cold water. C whats your boat run? I have heard mine did 76 on GPS but with a bit more timing than I was running. I was playin it safe. Still haven't figure out the rev issue yet. workin on it though. I wish I did a small bolck boat just so I could have turbocharged it down the road. |
Originally Posted by 30ctsutphen
(Post 2632293)
take a look into turbocharging.
I am a moderatro on the forced induction part of pontiaczone.com I do a lot of turbo set ups and we make 800+ HP with ease. I ahve done some boats for guys and they are very simple to do. you can use the stock merc manifolds. stainless block off plate to mount the turbos and then you just need to make water jacketed pipes from there which is pretty simple. Witha boat you can do an air to water intercooler very easily and make big HP numbers due to the constant flow of cold water. C whats your boat run? I have heard mine did 76 on GPS but with a bit more timing than I was running. I was playin it safe. Still haven't figure out the rev issue yet. workin on it though. I wish I did a small bolck boat just so I could have turbocharged it down the road. but right now a little motor tweek with a reliable 60+ will be good for me for now. i see if they do the new 27 i heard about, i will buy one of those in the future and turn the 26 into my racer. i'll float around like a frog waiting to race people. lol |
you went from turbo back to nitrous?
Thats and unusual step . most guys on the site are switching from NOS to turbo. I am wondering what prompted that change? Who did your tuning? Job /Turbo People sounds like a good plan for the boat. Why not just bottle feed that thing too?should be able to make that HP reliably with NOS don't ya think? |
Originally Posted by 30ctsutphen
(Post 2633581)
you went from turbo back to nitrous?
Thats and unusual step . most guys on the site are switching from NOS to turbo. I am wondering what prompted that change? Who did your tuning? Job /Turbo People sounds like a good plan for the boat. Why not just bottle feed that thing too?should be able to make that HP reliably with NOS don't ya think? i had the 2nd twin turbo kits CAS ever did, they used my car as a prototype, i did alot of the fit work etc it was allot of work. i did this on the stock motor ended up running 10.6 with the car which at the time was the 2nd fastes 6 speed forced induction car. i then trted to put the car into the 9's and just ran out. the turbo's to small, the kit just wouldnt go any further and it was a pain in the ass to work on etc. so i went to the spray, i have had spray on the car since, and since then i broke the 346 spray record (some one has it now, but i dont run a 346 anymore) then i did a 402 with 2 stages and an ass pile of spray, went 9.0 with the car then i had one of the first lsx cars running when i did the new GMPP lsx block and since then have gone 8.9 barrly hitting the car. it runs 9.7 on motor and thats with a converter/gear for spray. i do myown tuning with the help of east side performance. |
Cool
I runa carberated 69 firebird with a 468 pontiac and a T88 it runs 9.70's at 145 MPH woth only a 1.71 60 ft time. I haven't been back to the track lately but have the carb tuned alot better should run hard. I have very little cash in the firebird it was built as kind of a test car for the web site I am a moderator on. Everyone said I couldn't run 9's for cheap $$. I had $5500.00 in the motor and turbo set up when I went 9.70. We also a have a 86 capri me and a buddy work on thats making 1380 HP at the wheels running 8.60 at 161 with a 347 ford but its a pretty big dollar DFI car, tuned by job spetter. He ran the 8.60 and the data logger showed he pedalled it 3 times. It also ran in the Hot rod pump gas drags 4 years ago and took 13th spinning and having converter issues. if it ran its normal time would have been a second place finish. My buddy robin did well that year in his firebird though. I am psyched tonight I finaly found the problem with my merc engine on my 26 rum runner it was an intermittent switch box issue that drove me crazy. Everyone said the switch boxes couldn't do that. I should have known from drag racing you have to check everything no matter what anyone says. |
nice, sounds like a sweet ride!!!
im selling my power gilde out of my car if you know anyone looking for a nasty tranny that will handle 2000 hp. im going back to a th-400 and hope to run 8.50-8.70 befor the season is up. check everything all the time, if not you will get bitten in the ass |
Thats funny I want to go Pglide from my TH400.LOL
Turbos like to be loaded hard and the glide's gearing does well for that. Not ready yet just sunk $$$$ into the sutphen. What do you want for it I'll pass the info to some friends. Did you get your sutphen? |
Originally Posted by 30ctsutphen
(Post 2635902)
Thats funny I want to go Pglide from my TH400.LOL
Turbos like to be loaded hard and the glide's gearing does well for that. Not ready yet just sunk $$$$ into the sutphen. What do you want for it I'll pass the info to some friends. Did you get your sutphen? as for my Glide, its a huges, pro built with DB alum SFI case, pro transbrake deep pan, th-400 drum (so you can use th-400 converters) its rated to 2000 hp i paid over 4500 for it, its 2 years old with about 100 passes on it. fluid has been changed atleast 6 times, and filter atleast 3 times. i was asking $3800 for a little while, but it didnt sell. I will let it go for $3300 plus shipping, if it doesnt sell at that price i'll keep it. the tranny is flawless never missed a beat and will take anything i want to throw at it. the issue is i run 2 classes one on motor one on spray the car isnt fast enouph on motor to compeat without a huge gear in the back to get it rolling, and with that huge gear i can only run around 151 mph @ 8500 rpm, so i need to gear it which will kill me on motor so the TH-400 is all i can do, let me know what you have, maybe we can work somthing out. as for the 26, it was gone!!!!! i went to go look at it and it was gone. asked what happened they said the guy decided not to sell:mad: so i made up my mind, im waiting till next year to buy a boat, this season is close to wrap up and i start racing again in about 1 month, so screw it, i'll find somthing closer to spring or over the winter |
My turbo 400 is a dynamic, Its got all the good clutches, trans brake is old school but works, I'd change it.
I had i freshened recently and it has maybe 15 passes on it since the freshen. IT has the 34 element sprag, stock case but has a JW bell and a shield. I make 878 HP and it works well for me. Not sure it it would handle 2000 HP though. It was a friend of mines trans and he had it freshened and while it was out decided to go to a glide so Bought it. I knew it was good trans but it fit chevy so since I run a pontiac I had to go to the JW bell. Its not a big dollar unit like yours it is probably a $950.00 trans used W/O converter. The turbo car doesn't need to much tranny because I load it progressively so it doesn't eat up transmissions like an all out effort would. I come out with very little boost . Its really set up like a bracket car. Probably not the trans for you. Thats too bad about the sutphen not being there. I had mine out over the weekend and had a blast with it. I am still not too keen on the outboards they are definately faster but, I like the rumble of the I/O still. These are open exhaust outboards too. I am hoping the sound will grow on me. The nice thing is your not upside down under the hatch to work on them though you can stand up like a human being and work on them. They have thier pros and cons I guess. Where are you located anyway? |
Originally Posted by 30ctsutphen
(Post 2637980)
My turbo 400 is a dynamic, Its got all the good clutches, trans brake is old school but works, I'd change it.
I had i freshened recently and it has maybe 15 passes on it since the freshen. IT has the 34 element sprag, stock case but has a JW bell and a shield. I make 878 HP and it works well for me. Not sure it it would handle 2000 HP though. It was a friend of mines trans and he had it freshened and while it was out decided to go to a glide so Bought it. I knew it was good trans but it fit chevy so since I run a pontiac I had to go to the JW bell. Its not a big dollar unit like yours it is probably a $950.00 trans used W/O converter. The turbo car doesn't need to much tranny because I load it progressively so it doesn't eat up transmissions like an all out effort would. I come out with very little boost . Its really set up like a bracket car. Probably not the trans for you. Thats too bad about the sutphen not being there. I had mine out over the weekend and had a blast with it. I am still not too keen on the outboards they are definately faster but, I like the rumble of the I/O still. These are open exhaust outboards too. I am hoping the sound will grow on me. The nice thing is your not upside down under the hatch to work on them though you can stand up like a human being and work on them. They have thier pros and cons I guess. Where are you located anyway? i make about 850-900 right now with 100 shot, im going to bump it to a 200-250 shot once i swap tranny/gear. i need a hard core tranny because im full force right out of the hole I know its not a boat, but i guess its my post, i can clutter it. lol http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...14DML_6424.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...DSC_9916-1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/Noyzee/brad9.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/Noyzee/brad.jpg its a lsx block, 427 CI 14.5-1 compression fuel injected motor. myself and a friend built the motor. i did 99% of the car myself, from wiring, tuning, painting, etc etc. the cage, chute and wheelie bars where done at a chassie shop, but i do all the suspention etc etc. good times. im in peabody MA i deal allot with east side performance in Wallingford CT |
Took mine out on Sunday and enjoyed the $hit out of it. Still haven't got the right props but she felt fast (i left my GPS at home). I think I finally have the trim dialed.
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heres a vid, not great and not the hardest launch. lol
i think this was a 9.1 pass with a 100 shot http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...Picture011.jpg |
Sweet car, Heres a video of mine smokin an inmport at the valley!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgyMl...eature=related It was a day with a really bad head wind, last day of the year track was slick as hell so I had only 11 psi boost. ran 10.00 at like 129 or something. My trans will handle 1500 or so HP . anything more I'd start saving for a new one. LOL I wouldn't be afraid to put 1100 Hp to it. I have a wheels up pic of it but can't post here give me your email and I will send it to you. I am not sure where peabody Ma is but I am 45 minutes from wallingford. We used to do some street racing down that way a while back. Do you know the schrivners? I am tired of driving 2+ hrs for 21 seconds on the track. Its just not fun anymore thats why I got back into boating. at least your spending money to enjoy more time in the sport. I used to work on a GT1 road race team years ago and that interests me but to be at that level you spend some $$$ I have too many damn hobbies I need to spread the $$ around a little.LOL It makes it so your not doing anything well but at least your in the game no matter what the game is at the time.LOL check out the TR6 with the turbo pontiac motor, and DOC Z's camaro those are some friends of mines cars. Turbo Peopl tunes the camaro the TR6 is a alomost identical set up to mine and its running 8:60's right now at 20 PSI |
nice ride, i love LVD!!
as for the glide, let me know, maybe we can work something out. as for toys, i have pretty much one of everything, cars, trucks, sleds, 4 wheelers, gun collection, knife collection, tool collection, half a boat. lol love the toys but it spreads the weath thin |
Boy that sounds like my exact list of collections except I snow board instead of run sleds. DOnt want to tow in the winter too.
I shoot alot at metacon range in simsbury CT you should come out sometime. I have a 250 R 4trax, and a CR500 haven't used them in two years. I got spoiled riding in glamis now it sucks here!!! |
you should come down and go for a ride in my outboard 26 and get a feel how they ride.
The outboard boat is a whole different boat I think. well have to get C, out there so we have something to compare it to as far as ride and weight. His boat will give you a god indication as to what Stultz boat is like. Mine has alot less weight on the back but the engines (weight) also sit farther back so I am not sure how that will change things. Mine also has a stand off box which puts the props back even farther. I may be going out for a quick run friday if your interested. Wont know until last minute though as usual. I am a contractor and it all depends how the day/weeks work goes. |
hey guys...
i'll probably be out and about in branford from thurs-sun... if you want to meet up, let me know... c |
I may be out friday and sunday is a possibility too.
Sat is out for me for sure. It would be cool to get together but that branford area is looking trecherous with all the rocks sticking out all over the place. Big old potatos sticking out right next to channel markers just aint right!! I like my hull in one peice. LOL How long did it take you to get to O.S. from branford the other day or did you trailer up? Do you ever put in at lighthouse point? is that launch OK for boats our size or is there a better spot down your way? I have some friends who jet ski out of that area and I met them there many times but have no Idea on depth. |
Originally Posted by 30ctsutphen
(Post 2638760)
Boy that sounds like my exact list of collections except I snow board instead of run sleds. DOnt want to tow in the winter too.
I shoot alot at metacon range in simsbury CT you should come out sometime. I have a 250 R 4trax, and a CR500 haven't used them in two years. I got spoiled riding in glamis now it sucks here!!! seems your into speed, and the sled MOVE OUT!!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...e/P1000130.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...7/P4100037.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...P4100035-1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...7/P3040081.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...7/P3040064.jpg As for shooting, i go to a local place here, BOB's, they closed down but are suposed to re open soon. |
here is an old pic of my collection. i have since added a Browning 12 ga, an ak47 (.223) a colt mustang pocket light, glock 27, walter p-22 with laser site, and i think thats it
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...07-07_2322.jpg thanks for the invite, my boat is up the lake right now, i wont be bringing it back home for 2 weeks, but maybe once i do, we can hook up some place, i wont be able to hang with you guys, im lucky to see 60 on the gps loaded up. but myself and mybuddy with his 25 outlaw are always up for a cruz. you ever do the ocean? |
PS. i own an HVAC company here in mass, so i know what you meen about work getting in the way:angry-smiley-038::mad:
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noyz..
i like 45 as a cruise speed...it works for me:cool: jeff... lighthouse point has no piers, making launching a multi-person deal...the ramp in branford is only ok, but at high tide works great...even for 1 man and a sutphen, west haven and guilford also have good ramps....use the "bird's eye" view on maps.live.com to get a good look... btw, treacherous is as treacherous does...:eek: c |
Originally Posted by ChristianGott
(Post 2639480)
noyz..
i like 45 as a cruise speed...it works for me:cool: jeff... lighthouse point has no piers, making launching a multi-person deal...the ramp in branford is only ok, but at high tide works great...even for 1 man and a sutphen, west haven and guilford also have good ramps....use the "bird's eye" view on maps.live.com to get a good look... btw, treacherous is as treacherous does...:eek: c 4 blade on my boat, cruzes great, but cuts down the top end a little:cool: |
4 blades were a god sent on our 30 until we totalled it.
Go about 2 weeks on them babies.LOL A freind of mine smacked his sled into a tree last year I thought about buying it and doing it over. Tracks and skis are OK engine is untouched. INsurance totalled it though and he bought it back. NO Idea what it is but It was a 100+ mph sled which I gues doesn't mean much these days. I can't find the cabe for my damn camera or ID post up some firepower. I am hoping to get into a full auto M11 9 mil soon. We have full auto shoots at my range and I have been using a friends rig and having a blast. I was actually saying you could hop on my ride for Friday. No boat needed. Not sure how things are gonna work out. Tough day today. Didn't get nearly what I wanted done. I was stuck bidding a couple of jobs most of the day. I want to stay real busy for the winter this year. last year was mediocre. |
i like the 4 blade allot, it keeps the boat riding real nice, it reacts great, and comes out of the hole a good 2 boats faster.
i'll try to get a couple pics of my fire power as well. its been a while anyway since i updated my collection pic. i am redoing 3 of my grandfathers pass me downs right now. once i get them back together i will get some pics. full auto in Mass is next to impossable to get permitt for. we cant buy more guns then we can buy. the mass ban list is longer then the what you can buy list. i want a new glock so bad and cant buy one. it has to be used and pre ban. unreal. as for your ride, thanks a ton for the offer, i'd like to take you up on it one day, always enjoy a ride on a bad ass boat, i'll bring the beer. as for work, i have been bidding and bidding, it sucks, things are so slow people are giving the stuff away id its killing us. if you ever need an HVAC sub in the mass area, give me a ring. |
There is nothing they can do about a full auto in mass. Its a federal law.
You can buy one today!!! You need to apply for a special tax certificate and as long as you got your pistol permit they most likely cannot tell you NO. The ban lsit does not apply to full auto only semi auto because semis are governed by state law and full auto is governed by federal statute which supercedes state. Shoot me you number so I call you My brother has a friend who does alot of work in the boston area. We stay mostly in CT building comercial buildings, new homes and we also have a painting company. The painting business is saving our A&^ right now. Its the only business thats still doing well. I have bid 4 additions and 5 new construction homes none of which the poeple have decided to build. I am not even losing them to other contractors the people just arent pulling the trigger. some even own the lots already. 2 years ago people were almost begging to get them put up yesterday. Funny thing is now is the better time to build. Materials and labor are way down. I never could understand why people always want tp build in a high market. You wouldn't buy stocks like that? The housing market always comes back! My direct email is [email protected] We'll have to go shoot some day. I just picked up a english (Lee enfield) rifle chambered in .303 and I have a AK47 thats chambered in .308 that beats your shoulder to pulp with its folding stock.LOL HVAC is doing pretty well down here still, one of the few businesses still holding its own. |
thats correct about the fully auto, i forgot about that, i remember why i dont have one tho, i could buy a 26 sutphen instead. lol
the guy that owned bobs had all types of good stuff, he has more $$ in full auto's then i can imagine. he must have 400k or more in them. as for my company you can check us out at www.essexcountycraftsmen.com its a new site we are still working on, right now its up but still needs allot of work. we are very slow considering the weather. 2 years ago i would do 2 houses a week never mind my bigger com jobs. now im lucky to do 1 a month. we do everything from a fart fan to clean room to house's to high rise. we do it all, ACR pipe, plumbing, controls, we are turn key. my father started the company 35 years ago, i started doing it about 13years ago and stared buying and taking over the company about 2 years ago. whats your brothers company? we do allot in boston, we are currently doing a job at BU, another large job at a pool/ymca, another 5 story on newbery street, another at coply hotel. we are all over boston and the north shore. where do you go shooting? i know my Buddy Ken who lives in Wallingfor lives right near an outdoor range, its on the same street he lives on. we accually ride 4 wheelers out of his place threw the woods and end up on the wrong side of the range. its a little scarry, but we are way the hell up and over a mile away. still weird tho |
I shoot at metacon in simsbury.
I was going to buy a thompson before I bought the sutphen they were the same price!LOL My brothers Co is architectural building services in farmington CT. He has a freind who builds alot in boston but I don't know the name of his company. They help eachother out on projects from time to time. Both of them do comercial buildings. |
Originally Posted by 30ctsutphen
(Post 2641818)
I shoot at metacon in simsbury.
I was going to buy a thompson before I bought the sutphen they were the same price!LOL My brothers Co is architectural building services in farmington CT. He has a freind who builds alot in boston but I don't know the name of his company. They help eachother out on projects from time to time. Both of them do comercial buildings. as for the boston contractor, pass on our name. we have been around for 35 years and do it all. thanks |
I talked to my brother yesterday he says Ted is very slow but he will pass your info along anyway.
Seems everyone has been hit hard but some more than others. With the price of gas you would think the cities would be bounicng back by now. People moving closer to thier jobs etc. Thompsons are cheaper to fix!! LOL Maybe cheaper to run too.LOL Half the time I shoot full autos I am shooting three shot bursts anyway. It would just be nice to get one before they F things up any further with the laws. Once the Dem's get it were gonna have troubles, at least with that sort of thing. |
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