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wstultz 01-21-2009 01:56 PM

Rum Runner engine question???
 
Alright, I just got another wild hair......What do you think it would take to make my twin, small block, Rum Runner a single, big block, Rum Runner. Besides the obvious stuff like filling the transom and taking out the old and putting in the new. My main question is with the stringers. I think I would have to cut down the center stringer and maybe beef up the side ones? If any of you guys with single 26's could snap some shots it would be great.

Next question, Would anyone be interested in a set of refreshed small blocks with alpha drives????? and what would a good price be for them?

You can tell it's winter can't you?:p

lucky strike 01-21-2009 02:48 PM

Wade...Leave the boat alone, it's perfect the way it is.

Did you have a few beers with lunch today ?.:drink:

wstultz 01-21-2009 02:53 PM

It is never perfect in my book. No beers for lunch just bored.

Wade

ChristianGott 01-21-2009 08:03 PM

Wade...
I'll have to disown you if you screw that thing up...there's like 4 of us left on the planet... i suggest trying prochargers and arnesons...and giving me your alphas for the grandfatherly advice..:angry-smiley-038:
c

wstultz 01-21-2009 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by ChristianGott (Post 2782923)
Wade...
I'll have to disown you if you screw that thing up...there's like 4 of us left on the planet... i suggest trying prochargers and arnesons...and giving me your alphas for the grandfatherly advice..:angry-smiley-038:
c

I would love to go with Arnesons, i loved them on my last Sut. Unfortunately drives being worth more than my boat is not something I'm to keen on. I haven't had many lookers lately and the longer it sits here the more I want to rip it up and start over with something totally different. It is time for a new project. If any of you guys on the east coast know of anyone looking for one let me know. It is starting to look like new again, the last thing left is just a little more wiring and she will be good as new.

30ctsutphen 01-21-2009 11:53 PM

Get a outboard boat and just take them off and put a single 300X in there its easy.LOL
Just kidding.

Why would you want to do all that work to go single?

I am apparently missing something here.

What benefit would you have with a single over a the twin SCs that would be worth all that work?

dave911 01-22-2009 10:47 AM

Hey. Be happy you have a boat. Seriously. Missing it. D

wstultz 01-22-2009 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by 30ctsutphen (Post 2783249)
Get a outboard boat and just take them off and put a single 300X in there its easy.LOL
Just kidding.

Why would you want to do all that work to go single?

I am apparently missing something here.

What benefit would you have with a single over a the twin SCs that would be worth all that work?

Right now everything on the boat is mostly stock pleasure version. Just dreaming about putting a large blown single in it and seeing what she would really run.

You guys don't worry, this boat is safe. I just need to get another race boat or something so I have something else to do. Now that this one is finished I'm getting bored.

ChristianGott 01-22-2009 05:37 PM

hey wade...
is the guy who bought your old boat a part of these forums? if not, where is it now?
c

ps...you should have let jeff take your current one, you'd be free of such a mental torment!

wstultz 01-22-2009 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by ChristianGott (Post 2783837)
hey wade...
is the guy who bought your old boat a part of these forums? if not, where is it now?
c

ps...you should have let jeff take your current one, you'd be free of such a mental torment!

My old boat is in Scituate, MA. A dude named Jeff bought it and is in the process of giving it a new paint job and rebuilding the engines.

What Jeff are you refering to???

ChristianGott 01-23-2009 02:59 PM

W...
Jeff P...sutphen30...from CT. He was interested, but mere hours too late...
C

30ctsutphen 01-23-2009 08:09 PM

Yeah you scooped me on that one.

C gave me the heads up and It was the one day I didnt check my email.

DOH!

That was a nice price on that boat.

Its Ok though I got my rum runner not to long after and I am very happy with the boat.

It would be Nice to go a little bigger again but at the same Time I like the flexability of the outboard platform.

If I went bigger I think I might go Outboards again.

Although I like the Big blocks for the sound and feel of them the OB's are alot easier to get to and maintain. No winterizing, No oilchanges, I can have them off the boat in minutes instead of hours.
The only draw back I have found so far is the cost of repair for mechanics but the more I learn about them the less fear I have of working on them myself.
They really arent that different from an ATV engine or jetski.


Ahh If I could only hit the lottery.LOL

or make up my mind to have one toy

wstultz 01-23-2009 08:40 PM

I have pulled so many small blocks out of my Sutphens it is sad....the last one took 12 minutes. Trust me I'm not bragging, it's sad. I had a $hitty engine builder and didn't know any better on the first one.

30ctsutphen 01-25-2009 07:53 PM

I know what you mean My race car is that way I can strip the entire car in a matter of hours and put it all back together in one day.

The bog blocks in our old thirty were TIGHT though. You had to be a magician to get to anything without breaking down some other sub assembly.

Much easier with the OB's and I would imagine the Small blocks would be pretty easy too.


My 20 was so simple it was rediculous Small block with tons of room.

noyzee 02-17-2009 10:06 AM

if that boat was a single big block, i would have bought it last year!!

id love to find a single big block. i found one local all original fresh water boat, but the guy wanted huge money for it and it needed everything. i wanted to scoop it gut it throw a nice 525 500 hp merc in there with a warrenty and go from there, but he wanted like $28k for the boat. he's dreaming. needless to say i told him he was dreaming, he looked around and now the boat isnt for sale. lol

jeff1000man 02-17-2009 10:34 AM

I can tell you what it would run with a single bblown BBC in it. It would haul azz.

You should just sell it to me cheap, so that it can stay as natural and healthy as it is now.

It would look good parked next to the Magnum when I finish it. 2 stalls, 2 lists, 2 bad azz classic boats hanging.

wstultz 02-17-2009 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by jeff1000man (Post 2802001)
I can tell you what it would run with a single bblown BBC in it. It would haul azz.

You should just sell it to me cheap, so that it can stay as natural and healthy as it is now.

It would look good parked next to the Magnum when I finish it. 2 stalls, 2 lists, 2 bad azz classic boats hanging.

List price IS cheap. Let me know when you want me to bring her over.:drink:

LLEnchanter 02-18-2009 09:55 AM

I'm still working on it Wade, I'll know soon!!! I think it's probably good just the way it is

30ctsutphen 02-19-2009 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by noyzee (Post 2801981)
if that boat was a single big block, i would have bought it last year!!

id love to find a single big block. i found one local all original fresh water boat, but the guy wanted huge money for it and it needed everything. i wanted to scoop it gut it throw a nice 525 500 hp merc in there with a warrenty and go from there, but he wanted like $28k for the boat. he's dreaming. needless to say i told him he was dreaming, he looked around and now the boat isnt for sale. lol


Did you make him an offer?

If it was all original and fresh water how bad could it have been?

Plus youd be a sutphen owner!

noyzee 02-20-2009 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by 30ctsutphen (Post 2804387)
Did you make him an offer?

If it was all original and fresh water how bad could it have been?

Plus youd be a sutphen owner!

it needed to be updated big time. and it was an alpha, and had 400+ hours on the 454
i would have been buying it to put a 525 and bravo in it, then another 5k on interior upgrades and gauges and stereo, etc etc etc.
it would have been a $60,000 26' rum runner when i was done.
the hull was mint which was nice, but i was looking to spend $10-12 on it then dump more in it. at the 28k i said no way. i told him let me know when he is willing to sell it for 15. or without motor,trailer and out drive for $10

30ctsutphen 02-23-2009 07:27 PM

Sounds like It was over priced when you put it that way.LOL

But you need one for this season!

noyzee 02-24-2009 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by 30ctsutphen (Post 2807102)
Sounds like It was over priced when you put it that way.LOL

But you need one for this season!

i have my checkmate, its going to have to do for now. busnes sucks, money is tight etc etc, so i have to stick with what i have. once things turn around, i will have one. im goo goo over the one in the clasifieds here!!


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