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eightsecmopar 09-19-2010 09:56 AM

M-1SC Procharger
 
Listing for a friend.....M-1SC procharger for small blk chevy, with inner cooler asking $2500 obo for more info please call Tom @ 847-840-2027

eightsecmopar 09-23-2010 11:02 AM

Anyone ? Make offer

eightsecmopar 10-01-2010 06:42 AM

Price lowered.....$2200. You can purchase the brackets from Procharger to use this on a big block.

xlt86 10-02-2010 06:19 AM

how much room is needed in front of the motor to mount this, I want one for my power play but I dont know if there is going to be enough room in there for it.

eightsecmopar 10-02-2010 06:54 AM

Either give Tom a call, his number is in the first post or I would give Procharger a call and ask them.

eightsecmopar 10-22-2010 10:23 AM

Price lowered again.....$2000. Someone got to be looking for one. Give Tom a call for any questions.

eightsecmopar 10-29-2010 06:34 PM

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eightsecmopar 11-03-2010 09:38 AM

Any offers?

boltspeedmen 11-03-2010 08:53 PM

is it a carb setup ?

eightsecmopar 11-04-2010 06:38 AM

For EFI

eightsecmopar 11-17-2010 08:14 AM

Bump

eightsecmopar 11-26-2010 08:48 AM

Still available

FogduckerIII 11-26-2010 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by eightsecmopar (Post 3245938)
For EFI

This can actually be used for either, only difference is the intake connections......if it helps, I have the tubing and full intake cover for a carb set-up..... I bought a used M-1SC unit that was for a BBC carb set-up and installing it on an EFI application so there are extra parts. Procharger can supply any additional items needed but be aware, you have to ask them the right questions and do your research....just saying.....

Good luck with the sale.

85Baja 11-26-2010 10:56 PM

Would this be able to be mounted for a 502 efi? What additional things do i need to purchase to make it work and what do you think it would cost?

eightsecmopar 11-27-2010 05:51 AM

I would give Procharger a call. I would think only the mounting brackets

craigdskilling 11-28-2010 08:52 AM

Is a procharger only good on a stock motor.I have a383 stroker carb 750 pushing 400+hp woud this give me any more.thanks craig

eightsecmopar 11-28-2010 09:32 AM

Yes you can use a Procharger on any engine. If you go to the Procharger website I think they had some examples listed of the power gains and not all of them were stock. I think bolting on this system with you all ready making 400hp, you would probably be around 600-650 hp. Maybe a little more because of the inter-cooler. You can give Procharger a call and talk to them they would be able to give you more accurate specs.

lightning jet 11-28-2010 09:35 AM

I ran a m3sc on a carb 572.when it worked it was big power ..............just not consistant

pachanga 11-28-2010 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by craigdskilling (Post 3262290)
Is a procharger only good on a stock motor.I have a383 stroker carb 750 pushing 400+hp woud this give me any more.thanks craig

I would think you are running a pretty high compression ratio with that power. Remember any forced induction raises compression. The slightest hiccup(lean situation or detonation) with high compression and I expect your motor will go BOOM!

craigdskilling 11-28-2010 03:45 PM

what do you mean constant power does a charger have at top or all around.do you think it would put out that much.thats alot of power.

FogduckerIII 11-28-2010 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by craigdskilling (Post 3262495)
what do you mean constant power does a charger have at top or all around.do you think it would put out that much.thats alot of power.



http://www.procharger.com/M_profiles.shtml

Their "guesstimates" are a little inflated but close...


http://www.procharger.com/M_profiles.shtml

craigdskilling 11-28-2010 03:51 PM

Do you have the box or whatever i need for the carb.Or do i have to change my carbs.I hope these aren't stupid Q.thanks craig.

eightsecmopar 11-28-2010 04:03 PM

I listed this for a friend of mine you can give him a call and he could answer all of your questions at 847-294-1195 his name is Tom. Thanks

FogduckerIII 11-28-2010 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by craigdskilling (Post 3262497)
Do you have the box or whatever i need for the carb.Or do i have to change my carbs.I hope these aren't stupid Q.thanks craig.

I have the carb box and some tubing.....contact the seller and grab what he has and we can work out the rest....

craigdskilling 11-28-2010 07:28 PM

Fogducker do you think this would work well with my motor or am i asking for trouble.I have 400 already do you think this could bring me up to 500

pachanga 11-28-2010 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by craigdskilling (Post 3262635)
Fogducker do you think this would work well with my motor or am i asking for trouble.I have 400 already do you think this could bring me up to 500

I am running the same setup on a 454 built for it.(low compression with a balanced steel bottom end and a full roller valve train) How much boost are you wanting to run. You can go up to 9 lbs.

How much compression do you have????

FogduckerIII 11-29-2010 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by craigdskilling (Post 3262635)
Fogducker do you think this would work well with my motor or am i asking for trouble.I have 400 already do you think this could bring me up to 500

As Pachanga pointed out, your current compression is going to dictate if it is a wise install.

I do not know a great deal about motors but I am learning.....I am right in the middle of a rebuild with a Procharger install, 454Mag EFI total rebuild with about 8.75:1 compression. M-1SC Procharger planning 5lbs boost.

I have been told if you have high compression a Procharger is not a good idea, I was also told the secret to running a Procharged engine is to carefully monitor the gauges!!!

Fuel pressure, water pressure and engine temp.....better to run rich as opposed to lean.....

The other thing I was told was the ECM should be reprogramed specifically to the motor, DO NOT listen to Procharger when they say that reprograming is not required......

Dollar for dollar a Procharger is a good way to get some extra hp......but do your homework....

pachanga 11-29-2010 04:18 PM

You will also need a fuelpump setup with the blow through carb set up. As boost increases so must your fuel pressure. If you do not do this the more boost you have the less fuel pressure you will have leading to a major leanout. You should run boost and fuel pressure gauges and make sure your fuel pressure increases pound for pound with the amount of boost you have. I run mine much richer than needed...I could probably tune on a dyno and gain at least 100 horses on my set up but wanted conservative power with not quite so many worries.

pachanga 11-29-2010 05:19 PM

Thought I would add more thoughts.

1st I will say I am not an engine guru but have some experience. I did the neccesary research for my application and bought the proper set up for my application.

You will have more boost than advertised if you use a big block set up. The more cubes then less boost. So you will have more. It's all about volumne and flow.

A "good" set of forged pistons is a must if you go with much boost.

Dialing one in is a pain in the ass unless you have a dyno setup with the needed equipment. Mainly air to fuel ratios. If you are cautious you will start out with fat jets in your carb. BTW procharger recommends a 650CFM on a 454! This has something to do with fuel atomization or flow distribution. I have a 30 over 454 and it does fine. I started with 102 jets in the back and 82's in the front. If you don't dyno you have to just start hitting and missing to a degree. Slowly come down on your jet size gauged by reading your plugs.

Procharger recommends running the engine(alias your boat) wide open and shutting it down. Then pull the plugs and read them. I didn't want to do this. I just came down on my front jets until I could idle around without fouling plugs. I am also running 9lbs of boost so I am cautious! I was mainly afyer the thrill of the midrange romp! Now that my low end jetting is right I am sure I could destroy my bravo in a day.

I was after a dependable 600HP...which I think I have probably a little more but don't even know if I have 600. But my Pachanga 22 will surprise the bassboats with the big outboards hanging off the back!

Do your research!

craigdskilling 11-29-2010 07:51 PM

Thanks for all the great advice.I talked to my mechanic and I do have a high comp.so now i think i'm going to look into a blackhawk drive for next summer.that should give me some more top end.I have a alpha now running great.or should i look for a alpha ss.

FogduckerIII 11-30-2010 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by craigdskilling (Post 3263345)
Thanks for all the great advice.I talked to my mechanic and I do have a high comp.so now i think i'm going to look into a blackhawk drive for next summer.that should give me some more top end.I have a alpha now running great.or should i look for a alpha ss.

You should take the advice from the site you first listed this question on.....:D

craigdskilling 11-30-2010 07:39 PM

opps
 
What i meant was that my mechanic said bad idea.So i'm looking for a blackhack instead for my power needs.Looks like i just bought one.so let the fun begin.I have now idea what i nead for props or water pick ups.I now i need a bravo housing so the bh can bolt up to.does the bh have water pick up in it or do i have to go external.thanks craig


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