Re: High Performance alternative to a "tuner" or "chip" for diesels
 

I don't agree, but that's ok. This product I'm looking at doesn't use more fuel...like the others do. I don't want to go back and forth with you on this. I just wanted to report to some people here on the board about this product. I am going to try it and see how it works.

Re: High Performance alternative to a "tuner" or "chip" for diesels
 

that's cool, it will be interesting to see the results.. :D

and just fyi, my truck uses "less" fuel now than when it did stock... :drink:

Re: High Performance alternative to a "tuner" or "chip" for diesels
 

I will let you guys know how it works out after I try it.

Re: High Performance alternative to a "tuner" or "chip" for diesels
 

Semper-Fi,

So how did you make out with the NEW CHIP for the Truck. I am anxious to know, I agree with you in theory on the product.

Re: High Performance alternative to a "tuner" or "chip" for diesels
 

Haven't tried it yet. You have to ship the piece from your truck for them to upgrade it and you have no vehicle for 3 days. I need to find the right time. I will do it soon, and I will keep everyone posted.

Re: High Performance alternative to a "tuner" or "chip" for diesels
 

Semper- no offense but your comments are a little over simplified.

Modern diesel engines are factory tuned for a lot of things- one of which being emissions. getting emissions means sacrificing performance parameters- timing, pulse/ duration on injectors etc.

most any add on diesel box or program ads power from low side, it just might not peak til the higher r's- this is usually more characteristic of the v-8's vs the inline 6 (Cummins) all the better boxes offer lower settings taking advantage of milder parameters with little or no extra fuel added. The extra fuel is not wasted- you just end up running the hill at 20% throttle vs 30% etc all else being equal.

The hole premise of a diesel- aside from the high compression is the huge variable window of adding air with boost and fuel to make the right amount of power for the given load/conditions.

About the only free ride is to bring timing back to a more aggressive (less emissions minded) parameter- there are several offering ways tyo do this, some very simple and cheap- but your gains are limited. again, the better boxes do this on lower settings. They also control when the extra fuel comes in so the smoke freaks can tune it in or I can keep the smoke off my towed toys.

Lots of smoke means you are diluting your engine oil with fuel to a point- so I'm not a fan there. Longevity of the engine sacrificed?? Not really- with the milder setups with good safegards- like Edge's Juice with Attitude. You only load the engine more when you actually use/make more power, not all the time- cruise is cruise and only uses a certain amount of fuel and air to get the job done.

Cruise at 80 with a 13' tall enclosed trailer (wind) loaded to 16k pulling Colorado passes and you are working it harder and shortening life- though it's hard to measure and put a number on it. I worry less with the Cummins as it 's such a detuned medium duty truck engine. pulling performance boats at speed is relatively easier cause of the aerodynamic factor- huge at faster speeds

Different strokes for different folks, if this mod works for you, great, but your scoop was misleading.

Re: High Performance alternative to a "tuner" or "chip" for diesels
 

What are you talking about?? I don't claim or didn't claim to be an expert about diesels. The info I have given here was all facts, from doing some reseach on the web and talking to these companies directly. The guy that is heading up the project for www.morepowerlessfuel.com was a head engineer at GM. I think he knows a thing or two about diesels.

What was misleading? All I did is say what the companies product is supposed to do. I was giving info and getting input from all this. Your "claim" is absolutely rediculous.

Re: High Performance alternative to a "tuner" or "chip" for diesels
 

I don't know about the fuel going into the oil part. You have to be absolutely stupid to think diesel fuel in your oil doesn't reduce the engine life over time. Good call on that one, mr know it all. :D By the way, where did you "cut and paste" all your diesel info from?

Gee, that's what I said earlier. The chips and tuners peak power comes on later in the rpm's , where the company that I was doing reseach on said their power came on alot earlier, making the power more usuable.

Re: High Performance alternative to a "tuner" or "chip" for diesels
 

Dude- sorry if I pressed your buttons- your mod you are pitching is amongst several very simple mild mods out there with limited returns.

Too much smoke/oil in the fuel is bad and easily avoidable witn good mild medium setups- you can easily do oil analysis to track this if you want to play with that fire- obviously, we both don't.

We can agree to disagree on whatever else and leave the implied name calling for the kids on the beach- k'??

Re: High Performance alternative to a "tuner" or "chip" for diesels
 

I wasn't "pitching" anything. I was merely letting people know of a new, little known product that is on the market. I didn't say it was the best, it is different. I was reporting to OSO people who are curious about this product. Name calling?- If the shoe fits, wear it :D


You cruise at 80mph with a 16K trailer behind you? Another smart move or suggestion on your part. :evilb: