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Zudnic 07-23-2006 05:17 PM

the black cloud of expensive smoke has appeared!!!
 
Ran out to get some stuff for lunch and had no power peddle to the floor, power slowly comes back after a pretty large cloud of black smoke appears out the back, looks pretty expensive, injector maybe, hoping that dealer despite asking them forgot to change fuel filter's, air cleaner was done by me last week........ 6.0 PSD Excursion.... :mad:

Chris Sunkin 07-23-2006 05:41 PM

Re: the black cloud of expensive smoke has appeared!!!
 
Good chance it's just a stuck EGR. No guarantees but it's a common problem with the 6.0. Exact thing happened to me

Zudnic 07-23-2006 06:40 PM

Re: the black cloud of expensive smoke has appeared!!!
 

Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
Good chance it's just a stuck EGR. No guarantees but it's a common problem with the 6.0. Exact thing happened to me

I'll replace EGR latter today, I hate my towns Ford dealer and attempt to avoid seeing them when possible.

Scott B 07-23-2006 10:14 PM

Re: the black cloud of expensive smoke has appeared!!!
 
Check the CAC tube, it may have popped off...

Zudnic 07-23-2006 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott B
Check the CAC tube, it may have popped off...

Did a search to see the location, thinking while replacing the air filter could have popped off lots of thing's..... :D

I'm convinced Ford hired Satan to design more than just the air filter for the 6.0 PSD. :evilb:


Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
Good chance it's just a stuck EGR. No guarantees but it's a common problem with the 6.0. Exact thing happened to me

Did some re-search on the net seems the 6.0 PSD has a problem with the EGR and common recomendation is to disconnect it........ Gonna try that first and go down the list..... thanks guy's Seems Jaguar is rubbing off on Ford....:evilb: :drink:

CigDaze 07-24-2006 08:14 AM

Re: the black cloud of expensive smoke has appeared!!!
 
My EGR plug fell off a long time ago. If I knew where it was I may reattach it, but the funny thing is that it runs a lot better.

;)

Chris Sunkin 07-24-2006 10:23 AM

Re: the black cloud of expensive smoke has appeared!!!
 
Ford has a new ECM flash for the 6.0 for cold condition stumbling & low power. It basically disables the EGR until the engine warms up. You may want to get a reflash.

Chris Sunkin 07-24-2006 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Zudnic
I'll replace EGR latter today, I hate my towns Ford dealer and attempt to avoid seeing them when possible.

If you intend to disconnect it, you can probably clean the pintle and reinstall it. May need a new gasket.

Zudnic 07-24-2006 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
Ford has a new ECM flash for the 6.0 for cold condition stumbling & low power. It basically disables the EGR until the engine warms up. You may want to get a reflash.

Had the flash a couple of months ago when the notice first appeared. Try and do every service and recall notice cause I pile on miles, so nice to have full service history when time to sell. Will be two years old in Aug, bought with 9 miles showing when picked up, today its just over 120K.......

Just waiting for time to disconnect...........

Zudnic 07-24-2006 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
If you intend to disconnect it, you can probably clean the pintle and reinstall it. May need a new gasket.

My service guy at the dealer said clean or disconnect and if you clean expect to do it again, gunks up every 11K or so..... :(

CigDaze 07-24-2006 03:07 PM

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Here's what an EGR looks like after 11,000 miles.
I don't know if I'm particularly keen on recirculating my exhaust gases.

CigDaze 07-24-2006 03:17 PM

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Here's another one, from another truck at 16,000.

Chris Sunkin 07-24-2006 03:26 PM

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Funny- they never seem to stick in the closed position.

Murphy's law at its finest.

CigDaze 07-24-2006 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
Funny- they never seem to stick in the closed position.

Murphy's law at its finest.

Exactly. ;)

Zudnic 07-24-2006 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CigDaze
Here's what an EGR looks like after 11,000 miles.
I don't know if I'm particularly keen on recirculating my exhaust gases.

Looks like my service guy was not kidding when he said frequent cleaning!!!! The problem with my dealer is they are a Lincoln/Mercury/Toyota store so they don't normaly service diesel's, mostly older 7.3PSD's. The parts guy when I ordered the air filter could not believe how much and thought he ordered the wrong thing when it arrived!!!! The service guy owns the same color Excursion as I do and is an ex-diesel mechanic........ :D

Scott B 07-26-2006 08:54 PM

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So, what did ya find??

Zudnic 07-27-2006 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott B
So, what did ya find??

So far seems to run better since accidently losing the thingy!!!! :cool:

Thinking this might be what is preventing people from liking the 6.0PSD

Zudnic 07-27-2006 01:02 AM

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http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=303583

:drink:

Chris Sunkin 07-27-2006 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Zudnic

WOW. Excellent info.

Glad to hear yours was an easy one.

CigDaze 07-27-2006 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Zudnic
So far seems to run better since accidently losing the thingy!!!! :cool:

Yep!

Zudnic 07-27-2006 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CigDaze
Yep] !

I don't know if I'm particularly keen on recirculating my exhaust gases.

Yep is an understatement and it appears that recirculating exhaust only keeps the EPA and manatee lover's happy!

People wonder why diesel cars are not more popular in North America and seem to be less clean burning over other good mileage engines! :rolleyes:

Chris Sunkin 07-27-2006 09:08 AM

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Another mod they list is the direct crankcase vent. I looked- should be an easy one and will keep all that crap out of the motor. I looked underneath and figure I can run a 1" hose all the way back and down and exit at the rear right shock mount skid plate. That should keep the blowby off the underside.

My God, OSO truly is a tree-hugger's nightmare, isn't it?

Zudnic 07-27-2006 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
Another mod they list is the direct crankcase vent. I looked- should be an easy one and will keep all that crap out of the motor. I looked underneath and figure I can run a 1" hose all the way back and down and exit at the rear right shock mount skid plate. That should keep the blowby off the underside.

My God, OSO truly is a tree-hugger's nightmare, isn't it?

Before I posted that link did find that alot of that tech stuff is not only good the EGR cleaning is a Ford notice to dealer's service departments. Wonder how many dealers talk people into replacing turbo's or injectors only to have the problem pop up again.

CigDaze 07-27-2006 09:24 AM

Re: the black cloud of expensive smoke has appeared!!!
 

Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
Another mod they list is the direct crankcase vent. I looked- should be an easy one and will keep all that crap out of the motor. I looked underneath and figure I can run a 1" hose all the way back and down and exit at the rear right shock mount skid plate. That should keep the blowby off the underside.

My God, OSO truly is a tree-hugger's nightmare, isn't it?

It is an easy one.

Zudnic 07-30-2006 03:04 PM

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Was on my way to Oshkosh, so had to drive into Seattle for my flight, that I missed.... :mad:

It's a 2 1/2 hour trip via two mountain passes and not one time did I lose power and start blowing smoke.

klmken 08-11-2006 08:39 PM

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Mine just went in for the same......Clogged EGR $500 for ford to service thanks for the 100k warranty!!


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