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BigMike 03-15-2007 01:03 PM

Help With Utility Quad and Rhino
 
I bought 60 acres this past weekend and it is too big to walk. I want to buy an inexpensive utility quad this weekend to motor around on. I would like something in the 450 cc range with 4wd and an auto tranny for the wife. I already have a 2007 Yamaha YFZ 450 but it is not a good farm vehicle (it will be when my MX track is finished!). I know very little about utility quads. Any help would be appreciated. I am also looking for a Rhino/Mule type of vehicle as well. Seems like the Rhino's are the sprotiest of the bunch and the Mule/Gators are more the workhorses. Let me know what you think.

Mike

ACTIVESHACK 03-15-2007 04:19 PM

Check out the Polaris Ranger. Its the fastest of them all :cool:

tblrklakemo 03-15-2007 04:38 PM

Most of the big manf. make a comparable quad. The kubota RTV is the best utility vehicle.

THEJOKER 03-15-2007 04:42 PM

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Mine is being built now , ships in 2 weeks! 500 cc - locking rear - 4x4 - automatic - hydraulic dump bed - winch - 2 or 4 seater.

Key Features
Convertable 4 seats/2 seats
Powerful 25KW, 500cc CF Engine
Lockable Limited Slip Differential
Switchable 2WD/4WD
High/Low Range
Hydraulic Rear Bed

Engine
Size: 500 cc CF Water Cooled
Power: 32 HP / 25 KW

Performance
Speed: 40MPH / 60KPH
Fuel Economy: 25 mpg / 9.41 liters/100 km
Fuel capacity: 6 GAL / 20L
Load Capacity: 1,330LBS / 603KG

Drive Train
Transmission: Automatic,
CVT Push Button Command 4 wheel drive
Driveline: Shaft Drive

Chassis and Suspension
Front : Independent MacPherson Struts
Rear : Independent, Double Wishbone
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Brakes, Rim and Tire
Front & Rear Brakes: Hydraulic disc
Front Tire: 25 x 8-12
Rear Tire: 25 x 10-12

Dimensions
OA Size: 305 x 141 x 80mm
OA Weight:: 1,014LBS / 460KG
Shipping info: 8units/20กฏ 16units/40HQ

BigMike 03-15-2007 07:38 PM

WTF is that? Chinese? Looks good.

Mike

THEJOKER 03-15-2007 08:04 PM

My buddy graduated from Ga Tech w/ an engineering degree and moved to Shanghi. He designed them and builds them there.

THEJOKER 03-15-2007 08:14 PM

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This is his other design. 120 mph - SICK!

Wardey 03-15-2007 08:26 PM

Mike, I too am looking at the Rhinos. My Bro-in-law owns a Yamaha/Polaris/KTM dealership and he told me to go with the Polaris. It is true 4x4 where as the Rhino is kinda like limited slip. I am not going to keep it stock so I am going with the Rhino just because I think they look better. He still says the Polaris is the better machine and if he was buying one, he would go Polaris. Tres Martin has a Polaris Utility up on his ranch in Ocala I beleive, and we took it out one eve and it was nice. More work oriented than the Yamahas but he and Jackie use it for the ranch use. But the Rhinos can be tuned to run 65mph !!! Dave

THEJOKER 03-15-2007 08:29 PM

What do the Rhinos cost , loaded?

THEJOKER 03-15-2007 08:34 PM

http://www.polarisindustries.com/en-...Comparison.htm

Loaded Polaris $ 13,000

Wardey 03-15-2007 08:35 PM

The local Yamaha dealer in Palm Harbor has a tricked out Rhino with link suspension, wheels , tires, etc...VERY trick but it's as big as a Jeep. Anyhow they want 25K !!!! I told them they were on crack....a Rhino with the tire and wheel upgrade was around 14K..... they list for about 9K dealer cost. Dave

THEJOKER 03-15-2007 08:43 PM

Mine loaded w/ everything imagineable $ 8500.00 to you.

Byrdman 03-15-2007 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by ACTIVESHACK (Post 2059037)
Check out the Polaris Ranger. Its the fastest of them all :cool:

Yes...with some very minor mods it is the sickest utility vehicle out there...total baja machine and great control factor under speeds in turns and woops....I do not like utility vehicles that look like they are....this thing is just cool and bad!

buck183 03-15-2007 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by Wardey (Post 2059343)
Mike, I too am looking at the Rhinos. My Bro-in-law owns a Yamaha/Polaris/KTM dealership and he told me to go with the Polaris. It is true 4x4 where as the Rhino is kinda like limited slip. I am not going to keep it stock so I am going with the Rhino just because I think they look better. He still says the Polaris is the better machine and if he was buying one, he would go Polaris. Tres Martin has a Polaris Utility up on his ranch in Ocala I beleive, and we took it out one eve and it was nice. More work oriented than the Yamahas but he and Jackie use it for the ranch use. But the Rhinos can be tuned to run 65mph !!! Dave

Wardey are you sure about the limited slip on the Rhino? I did a lot of research before I bought ours and found it to be a true locked rear end with an open front end that has a lock in feature. Based off of my experience with it so far this seems to be the case. Full lock in the rear, and open in the front unless you push the 4x4 lock button.

I may have just been lucky up until now and it stayed locked everytime I used it? Dunno?

Buck

hp500efi 03-16-2007 07:01 AM

Here is Polaris's new sport ranger

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...cing/front.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...cing/RR1_1.jpg

BigMike 03-16-2007 07:55 AM

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The Polaris is sweet. Check out this Rhino. It has 170 HP and will run 100+. Probably not the best "utility" vehicle in town but I bet it is a blast to drive. I would like to have something with a small tilt bed.

Mike

THEJOKER 03-16-2007 08:10 AM

I'll take my rail any day if you're talking about speed and not utility!

BigMike 03-16-2007 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by Wardey (Post 2059343)
Mike, I too am looking at the Rhinos. My Bro-in-law owns a Yamaha/Polaris/KTM dealership and he told me to go with the Polaris. It is true 4x4 where as the Rhino is kinda like limited slip. I am not going to keep it stock so I am going with the Rhino just because I think they look better. He still says the Polaris is the better machine and if he was buying one, he would go Polaris. Tres Martin has a Polaris Utility up on his ranch in Ocala I beleive, and we took it out one eve and it was nice. More work oriented than the Yamahas but he and Jackie use it for the ranch use. But the Rhinos can be tuned to run 65mph !!! Dave

Wardey,

The Rhino is a true 4X4 machine. It is selectable between 2wd, 4wd limited slip, and 4X4 locked. Switchable by buttons on the dash.

Mike

clearcut3 03-16-2007 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by BigMike (Post 2059727)
Wardey,

The Rhino is a true 4X4 machine. It is selectable between 2wd, 4wd limited slip, and 4X4 locked. Switchable by buttons on the dash.

Mike

I believe it is just like my Grizzly 660 with 2 buttons and a slide to go back and forth between 4 different modes. The Grizzly is by far the best ATV I have owned and the Rhino comes from the same platform.

Wobble 03-16-2007 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by buck183 (Post 2059506)
Wardey are you sure about the limited slip on the Rhino? I did a lot of research before I bought ours and found it to be a true locked rear end with an open front end that has a lock in feature. Based off of my experience with it so far this seems to be the case. Full lock in the rear, and open in the front unless you push the 4x4 lock button.

I may have just been lucky up until now and it stayed locked everytime I used it? Dunno?

Buck

You are correct, it's the same as a 660 Grizzly, spool in the rear end, 2 or 4 wheel drive with a fully locking front diff on demand.

Wobble 03-16-2007 10:25 AM

A few of the landowners around me have a gas golf cart with a lift kit and turf tires, they will go most everywhere except big mud, they can be bought for 4-6k almost anywhere.

THEJOKER 03-16-2007 02:10 PM

Keep ya posted Mark. I'll have my 1st one here soon. My tractor dealership is going to do the partial assembly and really give it a going over. I'll then know what I'm looking at before I order a full container. It should be a good piece though. My Tech grad bud promises me it's top shelf.

Wardey 03-17-2007 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by buck183 (Post 2059506)
Wardey are you sure about the limited slip on the Rhino? I did a lot of research before I bought ours and found it to be a true locked rear end with an open front end that has a lock in feature. Based off of my experience with it so far this seems to be the case. Full lock in the rear, and open in the front unless you push the 4x4 lock button.

I may have just been lucky up until now and it stayed locked everytime I used it? Dunno?

Buck

Hey Buck, No I am not real sure.....just repeating what my bro-in-law told me. He sells both the Yamaha and the Polaris and he told me to go with the Polaris. Just suppose to the better of the two....but like I said, I am going with the Rhino. Here's the look I am looking to get. Dave
DTZ Rhino

THEJOKER 03-17-2007 12:44 PM

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Here's a couple more pics .....the red UV is a 650 cc.

chromecat 03-17-2007 03:43 PM

thejoker,

are there any others available or just the rail and the utility with the dump bed....

Don

THEJOKER 03-17-2007 03:50 PM

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4 wheelers too.

chromecat 03-17-2007 07:55 PM

that's kinda cool... what kinda specs does the 4 wheeler have, and I'd love to get my a** in one of those rails but im sure that would get me some jail time i don't need....

Don

THEJOKER 03-18-2007 10:15 AM

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4 wheelers have Honda engines. I'll have more info soon on more products. Like I said I have my 1st UV being built now. Can't wait until it get's here.

BigMike 03-20-2007 12:53 PM

Narrowed the quad purchase down to the Honda Rancher 420 and the Yamaha Big Bear 400. Any opinions on either. The Rancher is EFI, Big Bear is carb. Other than that, they look pretty much identical. Big Bear comes stock with ITP Mud Lites. Price is about the same. The Yamaha is a little cheaper and I can save a few more bucks if I buy the Rhino at the same time. Opinions?

Mike

ZBODaytona 03-20-2007 01:00 PM

either one will be a good choice...If your set on the rhino (good choice love mine) then get the yamaha...One stop shoping and servicing.... Though my roomate told me yesterday (he's a mechanic for yamaha) they are coming out with a 700 fuel injected rhino for the next year...Not sure when it is coming out...but should be soon...

Chris Sunkin 03-20-2007 01:39 PM

Since you already have an ATV, why not buy a nice used Jeep or something along those lines? You can do alot more with it as far as pulling/towing/etc., not to mention driving it on roadways legally.

If you have to buy an ATV, Polaris.

clearcut3 03-20-2007 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by BigMike (Post 2064653)
Narrowed the quad purchase down to the Honda Rancher 420 and the Yamaha Big Bear 400. Any opinions on either. The Rancher is EFI, Big Bear is carb. Other than that, they look pretty much identical. Big Bear comes stock with ITP Mud Lites. Price is about the same. The Yamaha is a little cheaper and I can save a few more bucks if I buy the Rhino at the same time. Opinions?

Mike

I used to buy all Hondas but lately I have been buying all Yamahas. In the last 4 years I have bought: Yamaha outboard motor, Yamaha Waverunner & a Yamaha Grizzly 660. I have not had one issue with any of them. I will definitely be sticking with Yamaha's for now.

One of the most important factors is how you feel the service will be from your dealer. If something does go wrong you need someone that will be there for you.

WARPARTY36 03-21-2007 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by BigMike (Post 2064653)
Any opinions?

Mike

Why yes I have an opinion! I think your big a$$ is gay and your wife is way too hot for you!:evilb: :drink: :p

You going to Sarasota?

spk1 03-21-2007 04:01 PM

Check out the richie bros auction, thats going to happen in houston, registration is on may 27, and the auction starts the 31st I believe. I saw at least 3 or 4 of those utility vehicles lined up to sell. www.rbauction.com

PremierPOWER 03-21-2007 08:06 PM

I thought the Rhino was a true 4x4 in the "4wd lock" mode. We are also concidering one to replace a cheap 4x2 we bought at sams club a while back

buck183 03-21-2007 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by PremierPOWER (Post 2066506)
I thought the Rhino was a true 4x4 in the "4wd lock" mode. We are also concidering one to replace a cheap 4x2 we bought at sams club a while back

They are. I have had ours in that mode a time or two with opposite wheels in the air doing some crawling of sorts. The two tires touching pulled like they were supposed to.

Based off the reading I've done and the way mine drives I am lead to believe that the rear end is locked in 2wd too. The front is open unless locked though.

Buck

BigMike 03-22-2007 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by WARPARTY36 (Post 2066098)
Why yes I have an opinion! I think your big a$$ is gay and your wife is way too hot for you!:evilb: :drink: :p

You going to Sarasota?

I'm pretty sure I am not gay but I agree that my wife is way too hot for me.

Mike

JohnS 03-23-2007 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by PremierPOWER (Post 2066506)
I thought the Rhino was a true 4x4 in the "4wd lock" mode. We are also concidering one to replace a cheap 4x2 we bought at sams club a while back

My rhino has a locked rear, can not be unlocked (sux for the lawn). Your only options are 2wd, then push a button to power open front diff . push another button and lock front diff.
I was plowing snow last week with it, 6' plow in low range, can't stop it.
My buddy just bought the new FI Ranger. The benefits are, its a 3 seater, you can enter from either side (the rhino has a console), the fuel inj. is great, turn the key and go, no choking.
The polaris is wider with wider tires, the rear is open, but can be locked by pushing a button. The polaris is noticably beefier too.
For around open areas and for work, the polaris. For flying around the trails, the rhino.

TeamSaris 03-24-2007 03:21 PM

Ive driven a Rhino with the 660. It did aboput 45 on a frozen lake in 4WD still under breakin.
For the Quad go with the Suzuki King Quad :cool:

BigMike 03-26-2007 07:40 AM

After looking at atv's all weekend, I have decided to buy the Rhino 660 in camo and keep my YFZ 450 a little while longer. Here is what I learned:

1) Most feel that Artic Cat is junk and Polaris is only a step or two behind. Seems to be a love/hate relationship with Polaris.

2) Kawasaki Mule is the budget king and is a very reliable vehicle.

3) Kubota RTV is best for heavy work especially in diesel flavor.

4) Rhino 450 - I'm not really sure why they even make one.

5) Rhino 660 - Most popular for hopping up and seems to have best performance out of the box, so far.

6) Used side by sides are nowhere to be found.

7) They are all overpriced.

Mike


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