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hummer towing capacity
Can a hummer safely tow a 38 fountain fever? What do you hummer guys think? My feeling is no - it's no dually.
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It depends ALOT on how you drive. If you plan on drive down the highway at 80 while you tallk on the cell phone than probably not. If your not going far and you keep it slow and easy than should not be a problem.
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Which model are you talking about? I believe that the H2 is built on the same chassis as the Tahoe and has similar tow ratings. Could it do it? Probably. Would I do it? No.
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Don't you know you can tow the Queen Mary with a Yugo if you have air bags and take it slow.:rolleyes:
Which version of Hummer?? My wife drives an H3, and it's only rated for 4500#s. I don't think the H2s are rated much higher, not sure about the H1. Towing is not what these things were built for. Get a truck to tow it. |
Towing anything with an H1 is miserable. Handles like crap and when you combine crummy mileage with that little gas tank, you're getting off the highway at every other exit.
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As a transmission guy I like to remind people the hummer h2 uses a 4l65e transmisssion,it is the same transmission a 1/2 ton z-71 uses with a extra set of pinion gears in the planetaries. Because of its large profile and heavy weight it is already taxed empty,I wouldn't reccomend towing anything much over 6000 lbs. A 1/2 ton chevy,trail blazers,colorados use 4l60e's,6.0 lightweight gm stuff uses the 4l65e (which is slightly stronger but not much),gm's hd 3/4 ton stuff uses the 4l85e unless optioned up to the allison. Again,these 4l60 based transmissions were really meant for light/medium use and they go up in smoke when you try towing 8000 plus pounds behind them for long distances if your out hammering thru grades,hills ,mountains,hot weather,Smitty
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You must know our friend George. He Has an H1 to pull a 38 fever and it sucks. It will get it moving ok, but it won't stop and you can't see out of the windows to park or back it up. Buy a dually or something cool like a Kodiak or International
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Dont do it.....arctic is spot on. The 4l60,65,70 trans family isnt suited for anything but a v8 with heavy amts of torque managment. I have the 70 in my truck and while it does shift harder than a reg 65 and contain a couple upgraded parts, it feels less than adequite pulling my 27...and its rated for 9900 lbs. The trans is something you really cant take chances with. $$$$$$ to fix
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Hey Artic I have a 98 chevy conversion with the 350. what tranny do you think it has and could i install the 485le to upgrade the towing capacity.Would it be a direct bolt up with a length adjustment for the driveshaft and possibly a different crossmember?
Also is there any remanufactures you can buy rebuilds from.Had a horrible experience with a 700R in a older van i had with AAmco.They rebuilt it 7 times in 40,000 miles ,thank god i bought the extended warranty.That experince scares me from ever having mine rebuilt again.Would probaly go to GM and buy a brand new one and pay the big bucks for the peace of mind if there is no good remanufactures out there. |
They are junk...I have an H2 and it's my second...they look great and that's it!!!I tried to tow my 31 once and it killed it...another guy I know pulls his 30' Scarab and he hates it.
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I towed my 35' nordic with my hummer h2. The hummer was supercharged, larger tires, and brakes. The Hummer had no problem with the power, and braking, but I fried the transmission The first time towing over 100 miles.
The transmission is definately the weak link. The other thing to look at is the hummer is not rated to tow the weight, and would open you up to liability if in a accident. I sold mine, and bought a Ford 650. no problems any more. |
No problems towing with mine....but im only towing a 25 with 5500 lbs
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If you install some 4.56 ring gears in the hummer and put a transgo shift kit with billet servos and flex plate etc....and baby it up on ramps you will get along. I think you are over the towing capacity at any rate.
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If I remember correctly, the H2 is only rated for 7500 lbs. I was going to buy one until I checked that, so I bought a dually, and love it. If you are towing over the rated capacity, you may not be covered by your insurance. Not that any of us have ever done that. :rolleyes:
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this question is no quite as extreme as most but when you figure the towing weight has to be over 10,000 pounds easily
it reminded me of a post by Chris Sunkin "I swear to God the next motherfuc&er that posts a "can I pull a Cary 50 with a moped" post, I'm gonna fly to where they're at and beat 'em like a circus monkey." |
Originally Posted by klaw
(Post 2077263)
this question is no quite as extreme as most but when you figure the towing weight has to be over 10,000 pounds easily
it reminded me of a post by Chris Sunkin "I swear to God the next motherfuc&er that posts a "can I pull a Cary 50 with a moped" post, I'm gonna fly to where they're at and beat 'em like a circus monkey." |
Originally Posted by carrboy
(Post 2077273)
I tried to sugarcoat it... but simply put...there's your answer:D
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Originally Posted by WHOSNEXT
(Post 2077179)
No problems towing with mine....but im only towing a 25 with 5500 lbs
and a 25ft single engine boat is really the limit. the 3/4 ton 6.0 with the 4le80 wont tow much bigger than a 30ft twin engine boat. 38ft boat get the big block or diesel. Gm does have a new 6 speed on the 6.0 and they upped the hp. but I will wait till its proven or if I ever get a 30+ ft boat :D |
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Tow rating is dictated by wheelbase/stopping ability. That is why the different model trucks have different tow ratings with similar power. The key is stopping. The H2 can tow more than its rated capacity but is limited to 7500 due to its wheelbase. In answer to your question ... yes it can easily tow the Fountain. I towed my Gladiator with no issues. However, I wouldn't tow this kind of weight with surge brakes. You need electric brakes biased towards the trailer. This setup makes the downhill grades manageable. Without it ... forget it.
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I have an 06 H2 and I plan on towing my 377 Talon with it this year (short distances) I'll let you know how it works. BTW, it already smoked a tranny at 10k miles, never off-road, never towed anything :rolleyes: gotta love that 4/50 warranty.
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
(Post 2077481)
Tow rating is dictated by wheelbase/stopping ability. That is why the different model trucks have different tow ratings with similar power. The key is stopping. The H2 can tow more than its rated capacity but is limited to 7500 due to its wheelbase. In answer to your question ... yes it can easily tow the Fountain. I towed my Gladiator with no issues. However, I wouldn't tow this kind of weight with surge brakes. You need electric brakes biased towards the trailer. This setup makes the downhill grades manageable. Without it ... forget it.
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Originally Posted by tommymonza
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Hey Artic I have a 98 chevy conversion with the 350. what tranny do you think it has and could i install the 485le to upgrade the towing capacity.Would it be a direct bolt up with a length adjustment for the driveshaft and possibly a different crossmember?
Also is there any remanufactures you can buy rebuilds from.Had a horrible experience with a 700R in a older van i had with AAmco.They rebuilt it 7 times in 40,000 miles ,thank god i bought the extended warranty.That experince scares me from ever having mine rebuilt again.Would probaly go to GM and buy a brand new one and pay the big bucks for the peace of mind if there is no good remanufactures out there. As far as where to buy a new or rebuilt transmission that is ultra reliable I would tell you to get a gm re-manned unit or jasper with the long warranty (If you were in michigan I would tell you to come see me).Keep in mind a 4l80e takes more power to turn and your mileage and acceleration will drop too if you go to one from a 4l60e,kinda like comparing a bravo to a #3a,Smitty |
Thanks for the info Artic.Just trying to weigh my options,Van has 125000 on it but it runs like a champ and looks great .Its not worth squat in resale either.
Just got it back from my ex and she had a mechanic that butchered a repair and didn.t tighten up the tranny lines so it had a leak.Anyways i was driving it and the tranny started to slip,ended putting a couple of quarts in it a to get home where i dropped the pan and changed the filterand flushed the system.Had a small amount of clutch dust in the pan . I have been worried about the tranny eversince.It hits second hard but third it kind of slides in to.What do you think the chances are it did some damage running out of fluid.Other than overheating or never flushing what kills most trannys? |
towing a 16ft enclosed trailer with 2 Harleys in ,is all my 06 H2 SUT seems to want!
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Originally Posted by klaw
(Post 2077263)
it reminded me of a post by Chris Sunkin
"I swear to God the next motherfuc&er that posts a "can I pull a Cary 50 with a moped" post, I'm gonna fly to where they're at and beat 'em like a circus monkey." Thanks for remembering! :) |
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Towed with it a few times so far, short distances, does a great job
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I have a 2005 H2 the tow rating is 6,500.I just towed my 28 skater to south Florida from Atlanta @75mph.It tows well a little bouce ,but not bad.My boat with motors weighs around 3,400 + Steel trailer and fuel I am close to the max.I am definately going to buy an extended warranty just in case.The 2008 has a tow rating of 8,000,but has 395hp and a 6sp tranny.Turning radius of the H2 is excellent ,so good that I have wacked both rear quarter panels with my Skaters sponsons:eek:Hopefully I have learned my lesson.
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I would buy a Lifted 6 door F650 to tow anything over 15,000 on trailer loaded up.
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Good to hear & see all of this info posted up for others to see..
I had looked into this on my own for a while as well before I bought new H2 last week.. I knew I would be fine with pulling my 26 Donzi.. The bigger stuff I am subbing out for transporting.. I know If I have to move something in my lot with it thats bigger than my boat I can if I have to. I believe the capacity is 7500# My Duramax that I leased was by far more & had more balls, but the Hummer is cooler to drive.. There are trade offs for everything, if I was consistantly transporting or running a much bigger boat I would have bought another diesel truck.. :) The important thing to do is to use your head & keep your tow capacity in the same area as the boat you are going to pull.. You are better safe rather than sorry.. ;) Jamie |
Originally Posted by DONZI33
(Post 2207430)
Good to hear & see all of this info posted up for others to see..
I had looked into this on my own for a while as well before I bought new H2 last week.. I knew I would be fine with pulling my 26 Donzi.. The bigger stuff I am subbing out for transporting.. I know If I have to move something in my lot with it thats bigger than my boat I can if I have to. I believe the capacity is 7500# My Duramax that I leased was by far more & had more balls, but the Hummer is cooler to drive.. There are trade offs for everything, if I was consistantly transporting or running a much bigger boat I would have bought another diesel truck.. :) The important thing to do is to use your head & keep your tow capacity in the same area as the boat you are going to pull.. You are better safe rather than sorry.. ;) Jamie I just checked the Hummer websight it looks like 6700 is the tow rating with the new 2008 up to 8000 more hp and 6spd tran.You will like the H2.The turning radius is great.Congrats! |
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