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Quinlan 04-09-2007 12:38 PM

New Duramax
 
Just stepped up to a 3500 srw Crew Cab Duramax and it is my first diesel. The old truck was a 01 2500hd w 8100 and I put over 120K on it and loved it but the 10mpg was tough. Was interested about the breakin period and what are some suggestions on mods to make. (ie exaust, Wheel size and any others). I know it aint a FORD so go easy on me!!
Quinlan

Son of a Gun 04-09-2007 12:54 PM

It seems a lot of guys will get an intake, exhaust, and chip (tuner) and be good to go. A combo like that typically increases HP and torque quite a bit...diesels have so much potential. It seems a lot of people go to the 22.5" semi wheels on their rigs too.

jeff32 04-09-2007 01:40 PM

if it is new, some are thursty up to 3500 and sometines 6000 miles, then it settles to be to his maximum economy on fuel. As far as engines goes, you can check with electronic devices that opens up the computer chip in some way, like HYPERTECH, SUPERCHIP or even POWEREDGE. They all work almost the same way, I've had them all and poweredge is efficient, on HP and also fuel economy. They claim to add 100HP to 150 HP, can't remember the torque. I like these better than swapping mecanical parts.

44MTI 04-09-2007 01:47 PM

Try Performance Outfitters on 11th street, or Buck here on the board. I heard Buck has make some sweet deals to OSO brothers.:D :drink:

dmaxx3500 04-09-2007 02:53 PM

drive it for a while before you tune it and watch the trans,dont,i repet dont do an intake the factory one is as good or better then any aftermarkets out there,,as far as chips ,ive had great luck with edge products

f311fr1 04-09-2007 03:43 PM

Edge Attitude with Juice and "A" piller read out. exhaust, finger stick, and EGR block off. Contact Thunderone hear on the board. His name is John Hamrick. He set me up and knows what it takes to WAKE UP a DMAXX. Joe Murray.

rrentsch 04-09-2007 03:49 PM

Won't the dealer have a problem with an Edge unit installed if you have a warranty issue ?

carrboy 04-09-2007 04:23 PM

I run the bully dog power pup on my duramax and love it...u can download to the ubd port and uninstall the download when it goes in for service...there's no evidence...there are 4 download choices, 40, 70, 140,and 210hp...best $450 u can spend

Cattitude 04-09-2007 05:03 PM

I carry them all, but sell more Edge Juice/Attitude than others.....

It's a very good bang for the buck with a lot of safeguards to keep from hurting your truck. Power enhancements without safegards can be a dangerous thing.

Exhaust only if the EGT dictates- most are ok unless you run all 4- big power, heavy loads, high elevation, hi rpms.

A good drop in filter helps some- make sure it filters to the same micron level, K&N is notoriously weak here.

Intake systems empty your wallet a lot more and give you some gains but most peeps don't need them- just like spending money on their truck.

jonyb 04-09-2007 05:10 PM

I was reading some test specs on a truck that they added an exhaust and intake to. Lost lots of torque in the low-end, and didn't gain enough power in the top end to justify the cost.

I've got an Edge Attitude/Juice in my 06 Chevy LBZ and the only other mod is a cut-off muffler. The Edge is great but one thing that hasn't been mentioned here is that the transmission can only hold an additional 75hp from stock. Level 3 on the Edge controller is more than that so if you installed something similar then you need to be careful.

dmaxx3500 04-09-2007 05:57 PM

06'-07' trucks w/6spd autos can use a trans go jr. kit just drop the pan ,no need to pull the trans,good for 125 hp,but after that the torque conv clutchs slip,the real problems are gm drops the trany line psi's in 5 and 6th gear,,drive the truck for 10-15,000 miles ,mine really woke up after 15 thos, its as fast as my 02' 2wd crew cab daully with a edge box, and its 4wd cc daully stock,,after 1,000 change your eng oil ,trany external filter[use gm dex6] and rear diff fluid[only use gm grape juice]

Neverfastenuf 04-09-2007 06:15 PM

Is it the LMM or the LBZ???

Sam

Cattitude 04-09-2007 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by jonyb (Post 2087236)
I was reading some test specs on a truck that they added an exhaust and intake to. Lost lots of torque in the low-end, and didn't gain enough power in the top end to justify the cost.

I've got an Edge Attitude/Juice in my 06 Chevy LBZ and the only other mod is a cut-off muffler. The Edge is great but one thing that hasn't been mentioned here is that the transmission can only hold an additional 75hp from stock. Level 3 on the Edge controller is more than that so if you installed something similar then you need to be careful.


For the allison, the juice makes more power in lower gears where it's proven to take it and softens the power in upper gears where it's proven it has limits..... then the crank sensor and the abs sensors stay in touch looking for slippage and it detunes if slippage is detected- these are some of the safegards I'm referring to.

never enuff 04-09-2007 07:15 PM

Although I have a Cummins when people ask about how to wake up their diesel I always tell them the first thing I would do is install a good set of gauges. Boost, trans temp and EGT. Once you have those items you will find that the number of chips is unending. In my experience I think if you increase the amount of air in(AFE is a good intake system) and the size of the exhaust 4"-5" with a less restrictive muffler you will have a good start. IMO

barron 04-09-2007 07:27 PM

Just leave it stock setup and enjoy. :drink:

JohnnyG 04-09-2007 10:21 PM

I have a 2007 2500HD CC 4x4 with the Duramax / Allison combo. So far, it's a great truck. I think the mileage is getting better and better. I averaged 18MPG towing a SeaDoo (I know, woopety-doo) to AZ and back. Diesel Place dot com is a great resource if you haven't been there. Mine is now making a light random ticking sound at idle sometimes, which freaked me out, but I guess is somewhat normal after reading up on it at Diesel Place.

I would highly recommend an upgraded hitch if you're planning to tow anything sizable. I put a Putnam XDR on the other week.

As far as break-in, I ran it easy for 500 miles, a little harder after that and changed the oil to Amsoil at around 2,000. I don't think Chevy has too many break-in rules other than no towing or hard starts for 500 miles (or something like that).

John

JPD Motorsports 04-09-2007 11:15 PM

I have an 03 duramax. first is a set of gauges trans upgrade like a transgo or such, i run quadzilla www.quadzilla.com products along with ppe www.pacificp.com I also did the 4" turbo down tube to a 5" exhaust with an aero turbine muffler and 6" tip along with a Mac intake kit. no complaints with this setup and would run with with the street cars around okc. Since then it has some go spray, lift pump, and looking at dual cp3s to fuel the pig.

BUIZILLA 04-10-2007 06:55 AM


Mine is now making a light random ticking sound at idle sometimes, which freaked me out,
this is normal, there is a bulletin out on this, it is most noticeable in the left wheel well.... mine does it from time to time.

JH

Quinlan 04-10-2007 07:22 AM

Thanks for all the advice. I think I will break it in for 10k or so and then look at some mods. Right now it will be a hitch upgrade and get my shell painted to match.
I would like to go to some 20s but dont want to much of a lift on the truck. 3 or 4" might be enough? Cant wait to get the boat behind it. Need to breakin quick so we can tow to Greers Ferry!!!
Quinlan


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