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Carlise trailer tires?
Any one with info on Carlise class "D" tires? Defective? any previous recalls? problems? I heard some stories about Carlise already and my new tire blew. I need some help for possible legal action against Carlise. (due to boat/car demage)
Thx P |
Might search this topic on different RV forums. You will get a LOT of feedback from them. Can't count how many threads I've seen on this over the years in various forums.
Buck |
Yeah. The RV guys make us look casual about boating. They're hardcore.
Any tire campaign would be coordinated through the NTSB. All tires are now registered to the owners (or are suposed to be) Check with them. |
Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
(Post 2337616)
Yeah. The RV guys make us look casual about boating. They're hardcore.
Check out www.rv.net a quick search will give you more reading than you can handle. I've personally read probably 20 or so horror stories about wicked blowout & tread separation. |
I had tread seperation on a Carlisle tire that had 1,800 miles....thankfully it happened when I was almost home and it was only a 21 ft boat on a tandem. I'll NEVER have them again!!!
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They are definatly fender eaters !!!!!
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If I had a trailer with Carlisles I would immediately replace them with Goodyears. They blow more than Mona on bargain night...
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Marathons are a no-brainer. One of my customers is Airstream- I was in their Ohio factory last week. They had a few thousand Marathons in their warehouse. The guy I was with told me that's the only tire ever put on an Airstream and the only tire that ever will. Good enough for them, good enough for me.
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Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
(Post 2338036)
Marathons are a no-brainer. One of my customers is Airstream- I was in their Ohio factory last week. They had a few thousand Marathons in their warehouse. The guy I was with told me that's the only tire ever put on an Airstream and the only tire that ever will. Good enough for them, good enough for me.
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I think you will find people that have had trouble with both brands. The best tires are the heavy duty industrial strength 10 ply which come only in limited sizes(usually 16") and won't fit a lot of trailer applications. IMO both Marathons and Carlisle are junk--Ive had trouble with both, just less with Marathons which I am now using. If you look closely at them(stamped on the tire) you'll find the new ones are manufactured in China.
Jay |
Originally Posted by BUIZILLA
(Post 2338152)
I don't think a lightweight aluminum Airsteam breadbox is any comparison here....
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If you don't match load range properly, you'll definitely have problems. I've seen plenty of tires on trucks & trailers that were a grade or two below requirement. If you buy Marathons in D rating, your likelihood of having issues is slim. If you put C's on it, you're inviting trouble. Unlike many things, tire's don't have much of an "overhead factor" built into them. They'll usually perform up to their weight and a little more, but not much.
The BIG reason that quality tires fail is under-inflation and over-speed. The difference between 55 and 65 PSI and the difference between 65 MPH and 70 MPH mkes all the difference when it comes to tire failure. I wouldn't consider moving my trailer without hitting each tire with a gauge. Every one of my service guys checks tire pressure every day in every truck & trailer and I haven't lost a single tire in 8 years. If you've got a big boat and 8-lugs, this is the tire to have- load range G. The RST's last forever. http://www.goodyear.com/rv/products/g614rst.html |
Aways ran Marathons with no problems. A buddy blew 2 Carlises in 1 weekend on a correctly rated trailer/tire combo. Carlisle did pay for the replacement of both trailer fenders and new tires.
My brother has a Carlisle right now with the thread bulging out away from the belts. Another mile on the road and it's be part of the pavement. On another boating board, many guys are claiming no problem with Carlisles. And those that did, were directed to Goodyear which makes Carlisle. I don't know if that true. |
i have six myco trailers on thr road averaging 1500 miles a week. i use maxxis bravo,s at 80 psi and hi-run tires at 110psi. this is just what we use. remember to always check your air pressure.
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My Carlisle tires are made in China, I was surprized, but have not had any problems with them on our fifthwheel.
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Originally Posted by t500hps
(Post 2337654)
I had tread seperation on a Carlisle tire that had 1,800 miles....thankfully it happened when I was almost home and it was only a 21 ft boat on a tandem. I'll NEVER have them again!!!
My tire had about 200 miles on it when it blew. :( :( Replaced two rears the same time. I thought I better be safe and get new tires. Yeah right.. what a f. ing BS. I should have kept the old once. |
Thanks Chris. I just had all six tires inflated to 80 PSI before I left to Miami. THe Carlise that blew was "D" rated.
I bought the damn Carlises to match the rest. Trailer totalled, boat damage is about $50,000+ , truck near $9,000 and I lost a decade of my lifespan. (I hope not) I think China should blow up, not tires. Attorneys should have a field day with this I hope, I just don't have the nerves for all the legal BS. |
Originally Posted by PARADOX
(Post 2338516)
Thanks Chris. I just had all six tires inflated to 80 PSI before I left to Miami. THe Carlise that blew was "D" rated.
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65 on a D rated Marathon. Goodyear approves +10 PSI for speeds over 65 and up to 75 MPH. 80PSI isn't advisable but within the design limitation of the tire.
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i have found the tires get less heat buildup at 80psi.
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Sure- more PSI means less flex means less internal friction which causes heat buildup and failure. The downside is that much beyond rated pressure, they'll pop when impacted.
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yeah a curb can cause a bad day. i usually see one maybe two tires a week. but i also keep over 36 tires on the road. oh yeah-- myco trailers rule!!!
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Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
(Post 2338279)
10,000-pound-plus aluminum breadbox. They're no tin cans- they're full of wood cabinets, panelling, water & waste systems, appliances, generators tanks, etc.
My dads 38 Avion .... 16000lbs .... |
i got a 31 forest river topping the scales at 10,300 lbs.
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