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BY U BOY 12-12-2007 10:36 AM

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FORD EXPEDITION BLEW A SPARK PLUG OUT AND SHOP IS TELLING MY FRIEND ITS GOING TO BE 3K BECAUSE THEY NEED TO REWORK BOTH HEADS AND HELIARC ALL THE SPARK PLUG HOLEs AND CHANGE THE TIMING BELT.

I TOLD HIM HE JUST NEEDS TO FIX THE ONE SPARK PLUG AND THE TRUCK WILL BE JUST LIKE IT WAS BEFORE.


ARE THERE ANY PROBLEMS WITH DOING THIS?

DrFeelgood 12-12-2007 11:16 AM

I'm guessing they need/want to Heli-Coil the threads, not heli-arc weld them... but it's probably not bad from a preventative maintenance angle, to do them all, if one has already blown out. I agree with you, probably would run fine for now, with just fixing the one cylinder.

BY U BOY 12-12-2007 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by DrFeelgood (Post 2369138)
I'm guessing they need/want to Heli-Coil the threads, not heli-arc weld them... but it's probably not bad from a preventative maintenance angle, to do them all, if one has already blown out. I agree with you, probably would run fine for now, with just fixing the one cylinder.

they want to charge him 3k. chit for 3k he could have the whole GD engine rebuilt. It only has 130k miles on it.
Yes sorry i did meen heli-coil.

I just don't see a need to do all of the holes. Or change the timing belt/chain.

fabricator 12-12-2007 11:38 AM

They should be able to Helicoil that one hole, there are plenty of creative ways to do it without removing the head. I can see their point, they don't want to 'own' that engine if another one lets go. BUT, you own the vehicle, it's your choice. If they can't/won't fix that one cylinder, find someone who will.

rchevelle71 12-12-2007 11:40 AM

Dr Feelgood is correct, prolly just heli-coil one hole.

I have even done them with the heads on the car, just put grease on the tools to catch the chips. tell him to bring it to me, I'll do it for $1000:D

Chris Sunkin 12-12-2007 11:42 AM

Do an insert in just one hole. Can be done without removal.

BY U BOY 12-12-2007 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by fabricator (Post 2369178)
They should be able to Helicoil that one hole, there are plenty of creative ways to do it without removing the head. I can see their point, they don't want to 'own' that engine if another one lets go. BUT, you own the vehicle, it's your choice. If they can't/won't fix that one cylinder, find someone who will.

Thats what i told him so the mechanic started to feed him a bunch of chit like the timing won't be right and some other bullchit. I told him to take it else where that they are trying to fu9k him.


He found a shop that is going to just the one hole.

Do mechanics think everyone is dumb?

BY U BOY 12-12-2007 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by rchevelle71 (Post 2369182)
Dr Feelgood is correct, prolly just heli-coil one hole.

I have even done them with the heads on the car, just put grease on the tools to catch the chips. tell him to bring it to me, I'll do it for $1000:D

I told him i would d it if he wanted me to but for some reason he doe not trust me:evilb:
he was on the boat after i rebuilt my engine the first time last summer and BOOM. so that is stuck in his mind:D

rchevelle71 12-12-2007 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by BY U BOY (Post 2369225)
Thats what i told him so the mechanic started to feed him a bunch of chit like the timing won't be right and some other bullchit. I told him to take it else where that they are trying to fu9k him.


He found a shop that is going to just the one hole.

Do mechanics think everyone is dumb?

How can putting a thread insert into a hole change the timing???

Maybe i should go back to mechanics school, cuz they never taught me that one:rolleyes:

rchevelle71 12-12-2007 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by BY U BOY (Post 2369226)
I told him i would d it if he wanted me to but for some reason he doe not trust me:evilb:
he was on the boat after i rebuilt my engine the first time last summer and BOOM. so that is stuck in his mind:D

sorry,

but that would kinda stick in my mind also:eek:

Dont feel bad though, it happens to us all, just did it with my outboard last week, third time out.:rolleyes:


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