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raytart 11-28-2009 05:20 PM

Possibly the future of automobiles
 
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This is so remarkable. Sure would like to test drive. NO gas.

No mechanical anything just the bolts that hold the top to the bottom. AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This may blow your mind But it is possible ...so they say. Long time in coming but the grand-kids have some good news to look forward to besides social security taxes....



This concept has been on both GM and Fords priority list for the past 10 years.

Why? We have an abondense of Salt Water! Watch this video on this link an you will see what I mean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jHFT...ayer_embedded#

Catmando 11-29-2009 12:46 AM

I myself would not want an explosive hydrogen tank under my butt. This car is much safer IMO;

http://www.mdi.lu/english/produits.php

Catmando 11-30-2009 11:52 AM

Here's another one that looks promising;

www.aptera.com

baywatch 11-30-2009 08:32 PM

Hydrogen bombs scare me!!!

2112 11-30-2009 10:55 PM

Isn't that HY Wire platform about 10 years old now?

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Audiofn 12-01-2009 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by baywatch (Post 2998692)
Hydrogen bombs scare me!!!

They are a LOT less dangerous then the gas tank that is in your car now!:coolcowboy::coolcowboy:

raytart 12-01-2009 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by raytart (Post 2997703)
This is so remarkable. Sure would like to test drive. NO gas.

No mechanical anything just the bolts that hold the top to the bottom. AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This may blow your mind But it is possible ...so they say. Long time in coming but the grand-kids have some good news to look forward to besides social security taxes....



This concept has been on both GM and Fords priority list for the past 10 years.

Why? We have an abondense of Salt Water! Watch this video on this link an you will see what I mean.


These aren't my words, they came with the E-mail that someone sent to me. I am happy with the gas motors that we've been using for all these years. I just found it interesting and thought I'd pass it along. I never even concidered that it was explosive.

CB-BLR 12-01-2009 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by Catmando (Post 2998399)
Here's another one that looks promising;

www.aptera.com

This one really is quite interesting. The diesel/electric version of this gets about 300 mpg.

Chris

GLH 12-02-2009 06:58 AM

This or similar items comes up every so often, one thing never mentioned is the AMOUNT of electricity needed to transform the water to Hydrogen and Oxygen or HHO as said in this video.

And once you take the amount of electrical energy needed to do that into account it becomes a very inefficient system as oppose to a gas engine. Physics never change ask Einstein...

He put a gallon of salt water into his machine to make the demonstration of cutting and warming up a few things, and with a gallon of gasoline vaporized effectively you could blow-up that whole warehouse...

I'm not even going to touch his Ford Focus either, why does he still need gas then?

In my dreams I can fly but here on earth physics and my banker keep me grounded.

Catmando 12-02-2009 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by CB-BLR (Post 2999298)
This one really is quite interesting. The diesel/electric version of this gets about 300 mpg.

Chris

Gasoline/electric. Aptera couldn't find a diesel motor the size they need that would pass 2010 emissions regs.

SkiDoc 12-02-2009 08:46 PM

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Hydrogen power will be the future. Hydrogen gas was not the problem in the Hindenberg disaster, it was the explosive dope covering the entire canvas. Most people could use a small solar panel and a cheap hydrogen generator in their own garages to power their automobiles. It does take energy for electrolysis of water to hydrogen. This could be done very cheaply with nuclear energy, solar panels, wind turbines, etc.....
There are two ways to use hydrogen as a combustible gas in a piston type engine or as hydrogen cell which has the most promise. The cell generates electricity which would power an electric motor, or a computer, etc....Hydrogen would run in your current car but would not do well at idle do to weak valve seal. But almost any engine could be modified to run on hydrogen. I like the idea of this since I can never see myself driving a weak boring electric car.
BMW has a car that can run on hydrogen or gas with the press of a button. People are already using hydrogen to power hot rods, cobras. GE is apparently close to releasing efficient hydrogen generators that do not use precious metal.
What I like about the idea of this is that we could could tell the Middle East to kiss our butts, we don't need you any more. Imagine what it would do to the price of gas if the President would say that in 10 years the U.S. will be powered by 30% hydrogen. I think that we're in real trouble if we don't make this work. I ask everyone to search out info. on hydrogen power, there could be some great business opportunity there as well. I like the idea of multifuel vehicles like the SuperChief. You could use whatever fuel is cheaper that day, or you could use whatever fuel is available where you are. California was mandated to have 100 Hydrogen filling stations from North to South in 2010!

Catmando 12-03-2009 11:06 AM

Well they're going to have to make the fuel cells fireproof. Have you seen that youtube video where arsonists set fire to that hydrogen car? The resulting explosion blew up everything within a 100ft radius.

Audiofn 12-04-2009 09:14 PM

I looked for your video of the car exploding you got a link? I sure could not find it. What do you think would happen if your gas tank caught fire? Probably worse.

From a test of a fuel cell.

Hydrogen tanks have been put through series of demanding safety tests. They have been completely engulfed in flames at over 1,650°F for up to 70 minutes, perforated by solid objects (such as armor-piercing bullets), and squeezed until they break with safety valves completely blocked. Sometimes the gas leaked out, sometimes it burnt, but it never exploded

Would your gas tank hold up to any of that?

Catmando 12-04-2009 09:51 PM

I couldn't find it either. Maybe it was on a website I found, I don't know. All I can say is there was a whole lotta destruction...


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