Loaded weight of Baja Outlaw 29'?
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I'm looking at trucks and wondering without having to go to the scales, what my 02 Baja Outlaw 29' w/ twin 496's weighs loaded? It is riding on a steel triple axle Roadrunner trailer.
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30 Outlaw with twins- 6900 pounds dry. Fuel capacity:142 gallons= 1000 pounds. Ball park total minimum 8000 pounds plus gear. If you are looking at trucks, do not forget to include the weight of the trailer when figuring tow capacity.
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Ok so the boat dry weighs 6900lb then 1000lb for fuel and then the trailer must weigh at least 2000. So towing it should weigh around 10K with trailer?
Damn this sucker is heavier then I thought!
Damn this sucker is heavier then I thought!
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Yeah, the weight will really surprise ya! I have pulled it with several f-350 and f-250 trucks, all diesels with no problem. Pulled it a short distance with an f-150 (about one half mile) not real fun, doesn't stop it well. Stick to the diesels and you will be fine.
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Weigh your truck at a truckstop by itself full of fuel with you in it. Tell them you a are a private carrier. Go in and pay your $10.00 and get your weight ticket.
Go back and get your boat, weigh them both....tell them you are private carrier, go in and pay another $10.00 and get your ticket.
Make sure you put your axles on different sections of the scales. Front end of the truck on one, rear end on one and all the trailer axles on one. For a $20 investment, you know what your rig REALLY weighs. All the manufacturer weight ratings are BS. I have weighed all my boats and RV's and they have all been WAY heavier than the formulas that are being discussed here. You can subtract out your truck ticket and you know the true weight of your boat and trailer that you are towing. You can see what your tounge weight is and you can see what is riding on your trailer axles to determine if you really have enough axle and tire capacity. Most of all....you will know for sure if the hitch that you have is truly rated for what you are towing. I have even taken my boat to the dock and went and weighed the truck and trailer by itself so I know what the boat really weighs. You will be surprised by all of it. That is one of the best things you can do. All your gear really adds up. Allot of the manufacturers do thier weight ratings differently. Thier is no boating industry code/definition of what is included in weight like the auto industry. Nearly alll manufactures interpret it differntly and they twist thier interpretaion to make thier brochures look good. They change construction techniques and layups over time and never change thier weights. Older boats gain weight from fiberglass repair and water absorption. And.....they just lie because alot of people factor those listed weights when comparing boats (lighter is faster in physics). If a manufacturer offers a boat in both bravo and #6 configurations.....have you ever seen different specs for the two? I havent and there is a big difference in weight. I have had alot of different rigs and my other two buds I travel with have done this as well. ALL of them have been significantly heavier than specs. Cigarette, Nortech, Hustler, Outerlimits and Stryker in the lineup that we have weighed. Again....real world results and experience.....for what it is worth.
Go back and get your boat, weigh them both....tell them you are private carrier, go in and pay another $10.00 and get your ticket.
Make sure you put your axles on different sections of the scales. Front end of the truck on one, rear end on one and all the trailer axles on one. For a $20 investment, you know what your rig REALLY weighs. All the manufacturer weight ratings are BS. I have weighed all my boats and RV's and they have all been WAY heavier than the formulas that are being discussed here. You can subtract out your truck ticket and you know the true weight of your boat and trailer that you are towing. You can see what your tounge weight is and you can see what is riding on your trailer axles to determine if you really have enough axle and tire capacity. Most of all....you will know for sure if the hitch that you have is truly rated for what you are towing. I have even taken my boat to the dock and went and weighed the truck and trailer by itself so I know what the boat really weighs. You will be surprised by all of it. That is one of the best things you can do. All your gear really adds up. Allot of the manufacturers do thier weight ratings differently. Thier is no boating industry code/definition of what is included in weight like the auto industry. Nearly alll manufactures interpret it differntly and they twist thier interpretaion to make thier brochures look good. They change construction techniques and layups over time and never change thier weights. Older boats gain weight from fiberglass repair and water absorption. And.....they just lie because alot of people factor those listed weights when comparing boats (lighter is faster in physics). If a manufacturer offers a boat in both bravo and #6 configurations.....have you ever seen different specs for the two? I havent and there is a big difference in weight. I have had alot of different rigs and my other two buds I travel with have done this as well. ALL of them have been significantly heavier than specs. Cigarette, Nortech, Hustler, Outerlimits and Stryker in the lineup that we have weighed. Again....real world results and experience.....for what it is worth.
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Weigh your truck at a truckstop by itself full of fuel with you in it. Tell them you a are a private carrier. Go in and pay your $10.00 and get your weight ticket.
Go back and get your boat, weigh them both....tell them you are private carrier, go in and pay another $10.00 and get your ticket.
Make sure you put your axles on different sections of the scales. Front end of the truck on one, rear end on one and all the trailer axles on one. For a $20 investment, you know what your rig REALLY weighs. All the manufacturer weight ratings are BS. I have weighed all my boats and RV's and they have all been WAY heavier than the formulas that are being discussed here. You can subtract out your truck ticket and you know the true weight of your boat and trailer that you are towing. You can see what your tounge weight is and you can see what is riding on your trailer axles to determine if you really have enough axle and tire capacity. Most of all....you will know for sure if the hitch that you have is truly rated for what you are towing. I have even taken my boat to the dock and went and weighed the truck and trailer by itself so I know what the boat really weighs. You will be surprised by all of it. That is one of the best things you can do. All your gear really adds up. Allot of the manufacturers do thier weight ratings differently. Thier is no boating industry code/definition of what is included in weight like the auto industry. Nearly alll manufactures interpret it differntly and they twist thier interpretaion to make thier brochures look good. They change construction techniques and layups over time and never change thier weights. Older boats gain weight from fiberglass repair and water absorption. And.....they just lie because alot of people factor those listed weights when comparing boats (lighter is faster in physics) . I have had alot of different rigs and my other two buds I travel with have done this as well. ALL of them have been significantly heavier than specs. Cigarette, Nortech, Hustler, Outerlimits and Stryker in the lineup that we have weighed. Again....real world results and experience.....for what it is worth.
Go back and get your boat, weigh them both....tell them you are private carrier, go in and pay another $10.00 and get your ticket.
Make sure you put your axles on different sections of the scales. Front end of the truck on one, rear end on one and all the trailer axles on one. For a $20 investment, you know what your rig REALLY weighs. All the manufacturer weight ratings are BS. I have weighed all my boats and RV's and they have all been WAY heavier than the formulas that are being discussed here. You can subtract out your truck ticket and you know the true weight of your boat and trailer that you are towing. You can see what your tounge weight is and you can see what is riding on your trailer axles to determine if you really have enough axle and tire capacity. Most of all....you will know for sure if the hitch that you have is truly rated for what you are towing. I have even taken my boat to the dock and went and weighed the truck and trailer by itself so I know what the boat really weighs. You will be surprised by all of it. That is one of the best things you can do. All your gear really adds up. Allot of the manufacturers do thier weight ratings differently. Thier is no boating industry code/definition of what is included in weight like the auto industry. Nearly alll manufactures interpret it differntly and they twist thier interpretaion to make thier brochures look good. They change construction techniques and layups over time and never change thier weights. Older boats gain weight from fiberglass repair and water absorption. And.....they just lie because alot of people factor those listed weights when comparing boats (lighter is faster in physics) . I have had alot of different rigs and my other two buds I travel with have done this as well. ALL of them have been significantly heavier than specs. Cigarette, Nortech, Hustler, Outerlimits and Stryker in the lineup that we have weighed. Again....real world results and experience.....for what it is worth.
Very good post. I appreciate you writing your experiences. I have a local scale that I will go weigh in at. I haul fifth wheels and travel trailers daily (own RV dealership) and behind my 01 2500 cummins work truck it feels heavier then what I was led to believe. I have been looking into picking up a new personal truck but want some room to grow if I step up in boat size.
I really like the 08 F450's even though it might be a little overkill for my current boat.
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Very good post. I appreciate you writing your experiences. I have a local scale that I will go weigh in at. I haul fifth wheels and travel trailers daily (own RV dealership) and behind my 01 2500 cummins work truck it feels heavier then what I was led to believe. I have been looking into picking up a new personal truck but want some room to grow if I step up in boat size.
I really like the 08 F450's even though it might be a little overkill for my current boat.
I really like the 08 F450's even though it might be a little overkill for my current boat.
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