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Racerngr1 12-11-2010 04:54 PM

Towing with a Kodiak
 
How do the Kodiak's tow, I have been contemplating purchasing one and am looking for opinions on them good and bad. The big appeal to the kodiak for me is just the fact that it's something a little different and not crazy expensive. I just sold my LMM duramax which towed my boat well but now just looking for something different or would I just be better off replacing my truck with a LML duramax?

andyt25 12-11-2010 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Racerngr1 (Post 3272369)
How do the Kodiak's tow, I have been contemplating purchasing one and am looking for opinions on them good and bad. The big appeal to the kodiak for me is just the fact that it's something a little different and not crazy expensive. I just sold my LMM duramax which towed my boat well but now just looking for something different or would I just be better off replacing my truck with a LML duramax?

they tow good but the ride will be alot harsher than a 2500-3500 truck and the mileage will be alot less. I've heard the ones with the airride rear suspension help the ride a little, if you're only towing with it you would probably like it but for using it as a daily driver you probably wouldn't but the do look cool

rjr 12-11-2010 07:11 PM

FWIW A pro boat hauler told me that he prefers the Ford F550 because when he puts an F350 bed on it there is less attention from the DOT. His problem with the Kodiak is that it looks like a commercial vehicle, thus attracting unwanted attention.

The Ford dealer that sold me an F350 DRW said it HAS to be registered commercial because of the GVRW

A DMV (Connecticut) inspector told me that as long as my tow was private non commercial I could tow anything I wanted. He said it was federal law. I ask because my drivers license clearly states max trailer weight is 8000#. My Formula 382 & steel trailer are nearly twice that.

Throttle Fever 12-11-2010 07:22 PM

Check your insurance too.
 

Originally Posted by rjr (Post 3272433)
FWIW A pro boat hauler told me that he prefers the Ford F550 because when he puts an F350 bed on it there is less attention from the DOT. His problem with the Kodiak is that it looks like a commercial vehicle, thus attracting unwanted attention.

The Ford dealer that sold me an F350 DRW said it HAS to be registered commercial because of the GVRW

A DMV (Connecticut) inspector told me that as long as my tow was private non commercial I could tow anything I wanted. He said it was federal law. I ask because my drivers license clearly states max trailer weight is 8000#. My Formula 382 & steel trailer are nearly twice that.



I tow with a F550. Never checked with my insurance company b-4 I bought it, well being concidered a commercial my company would not cover it, along with many others that I checked with (In my state). Had to get a farm policy to get around that. I am sure the Kodiak would fall under the same ruling. The 550 rides pretty rough just tooling around. But the load capacity and brakes are what I went for when purchasing. My 2 cents...

Racerngr1 12-11-2010 11:11 PM

My plan is to have a little commuter car (which I already have) and a truck which will be used every now and then and also the obvious of towing the boat.

Catmando 12-12-2010 12:39 AM


Originally Posted by Racerngr1 (Post 3272506)
My plan is to have a little commuter car (which I already have) and a truck which will be used every now and then and also the obvious of towing the boat.

Coming from your class 3 or 4 truck you will NOT like the ride of the Kodiak. Your boat will not be heavy enough to make it ride any smoother either. Any 3/4 ton diesel will tow your boat with ease and get much better fuel mileage to boot.

OL40SVX 12-12-2010 06:24 AM

The best thing about the C4500 is the turning radius...
The 3500's are terrible...

rjr 12-12-2010 09:22 AM

I drive a BMW 540 when the weather is nice. It's tires do not like rain or snow so I drive my F350 DRW when its snotty out. I put about 10K a year on it as a daily driver. Parking is the worst problem. Over 65 MPH it gets pretty bouncy if empty. Not a vehicle I would recommend as a commuter but you can't tow with a car and I need a truck for work. So the dually works.

Catmando 12-12-2010 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by fountain40icbm (Post 3272541)
The best thing about the C4500 is the turning radius...
The 3500's are terrible...

The biggest surprise I got when I bought my 2006 Ram quad cab dually was the turning radius was almost as small as my Ford Ranger SC. Making a U turn was easy. Aside from needing two spaces(or four lol) to park in, the truck was a breeze to maneuver in a parking lot.

wideawake 12-12-2010 02:10 PM

I had a '95 Top Kick Monroe pickup conversion with a Cat 3116 in front of a six speed. air-bagged and had NO PROBLEM with ride or turning. Called it the PICKUP ON STEROIDS. THIS WAS BEFORE THE F-650. Buy it, you'll enjoy it.

JPD Motorsports 12-12-2010 03:12 PM

I had a 4500 4x4. get the air ride cab, seats, rear suspension. big difference with and with out. my 4x4 would yield a best of 11mpgs. in Oklahoma I taged it like a normal vehicle and was insured thru allstate on it no special crap. It towed like no other and the stopping power great! the ride well wish I spent the coin for the full airirde. The wow factor was pretty cool too. Steering was good real tight easy to pull in and such. Had the full monroe pkg with dually bed on it. keep away from the earlier years and lean towards the 07ish era for the 6spd trans instead of the 5spd in the older ones. they take the same programers and such along with dpf delete kits as well. It was great on long trips loaded (with spring suspesion) stretch out kids in back and sofa sleeper rear. If I got another it would be full airride. Did it for the weight I was carrying I felt a lot more incontrol than my gmc dually was.

Racerngr1 12-12-2010 03:26 PM

Thanks for everybody's opinions.

I'm just looking for something different and fun to use for a tow vehicle like a kodiak or H1 or something like that. I have my little commuter car to drive every day so I'm not too concerned about mileage.

Catmando 12-12-2010 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Racerngr1 (Post 3272970)
Thanks for everybody's opinions.

I'm just looking for something different and fun to use for a tow vehicle like a kodiak or H1 or something like that. I have my little commuter car to drive every day so I'm not too concerned about mileage.

Kodiak or H1 I'd have to say Hummer.

Racerngr1 12-12-2010 06:48 PM

Or something else unique along those lines.

JPD Motorsports 12-12-2010 07:13 PM

international cxt! the kodiak will be cool as well.

27daytona 12-12-2010 07:45 PM

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I noticed that you are in california as am I. I tow my cat with a Kodiak 5500 with air ride, it does a great job, however I had to insure it as a medium duty truck on my commercial policy through my business. I also needed a class A license to pull an 18000 lbs. trailer that is 45 ft. long so check the state laws before you buy one. I really needed the towing capacity of the Kodiak to tow legally or I would never own one just to look cool. I was also forced into the B.I.T. program in California and now my truck and trailer get inspected and I am in a drug program, just to pull a boat! Your 29 Fountain may not put you in this class but I would check before you buy. I hope this helps. Doug

Plowtownmissile 12-12-2010 08:13 PM

You may want to stay clear of a H1 for towing. I've read were several guys went from 1ton pickups to H1's and the rear (independent) suspensions weren't up to pulling large boats (38+ft). Just mentioning incase you ever decide to get a bigger boat.


Originally Posted by Racerngr1 (Post 3272369)
How do the Kodiak's tow, I have been contemplating purchasing one and am looking for opinions on them good and bad. The big appeal to the kodiak for me is just the fact that it's something a little different and not crazy expensive. I just sold my LMM duramax which towed my boat well but now just looking for something different or would I just be better off replacing my truck with a LML duramax?


Originally Posted by JPD Motorsports (Post 3272965)
I had a 4500 4x4. get the air ride cab, seats, rear suspension. big difference with and with out. my 4x4 would yield a best of 11mpgs. in Oklahoma I taged it like a normal vehicle and was insured thru allstate on it no special crap. It towed like no other and the stopping power great! the ride well wish I spent the coin for the full airirde. The wow factor was pretty cool too. Steering was good real tight easy to pull in and such. Had the full monroe pkg with dually bed on it. keep away from the earlier years and lean towards the 07ish era for the 6spd trans instead of the 5spd in the older ones. they take the same programers and such along with dpf delete kits as well. It was great on long trips loaded (with spring suspesion) stretch out kids in back and sofa sleeper rear. If I got another it would be full airride. Did it for the weight I was carrying I felt a lot more incontrol than my gmc dually was.

JPD hit the nail on the head. I've driven F450-550's and C4500-5500's. The F450-550's I drove didn't have air ride and rode like logwagons unless you had some serious weight on the tongue of the trailer. The C4500-5500's I drove were setup like JPD's setup and rode pretty well when unloaded.

In Illinois, a Class C (chauffer) license is good up to 26,000lbs with or without airbrakes ,which is what I have, and I've never been hassled over it.

waycool marine 12-20-2010 08:03 AM

be cool
 
my 2 cents be cool! I tow a cafe racer, had a couple 550s last one was a 06 with a 6.0 never again [whole other story] I looked at the 4500/5500 they can be really cool. I came across a f650 crew with a hauler bed, way more truck than I need , but its to cool. state farm insures i as a personel vehicle as long as they also insure the boat, I put maybe 8-10 k miles on it a year but its cool. buy what you like, there is a bunch listed on horse trailer.com

H20 Toie 12-20-2010 01:05 PM

I have a
07 kodiak ( even with air ride it rides like ****)
08 F450 way better ride and tows almost as good
07 Frieghtliner Sportchassis which rides better than both and pulls way better ( turns a lot better than the Kodiak) olt more room in the cab, just overall a better truck and gets better mileage

activemike 12-21-2010 09:26 PM

i have a 2007 kodiak 5500 monroe conversion. love the truck,has full air ride with 22in wheels and gets 10 mpg pulling my 42 outerlimits . we had a ford f 450, didn't ride as good to me. Yes the truck looks way cool,but check into your state laws about weight . I'm getting my CDL just so im legal in most states. My truck weighs 12,500 on the scales . Add the trailer and boat and it over 26,000. Just what i needed to do this winter was to get a CDL drivers lic...lol


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