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Dueclaws 02-10-2011 02:46 PM

Ram 3500 hd high output
 
Cat-
This is for you.


http://www.autoblog.com/2011/02/10/2...o-2011-reveal/

davidmercury 02-10-2011 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by Dueclaws (Post 3321020)

Second quarter availability was not soon enough for me already taking delivery of new duramax dually tomorrow

bobsbillets 02-10-2011 04:12 PM

Is is me or does the horsepower rating seem very low for the torque output? My duramax is 08 and rating at 360 H.P. and 650 torque. Only 40 for H.P. but 150 more torque

rumrunner29 02-10-2011 04:48 PM

That's a nice powertrain! Now if they would do something about that UGLY truck they put it in!!!! :lolhit:

HiPerf360 02-10-2011 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by bobsbillets (Post 3321105)
Is is me or does the horsepower rating seem very low for the torque output? My duramax is 08 and rating at 360 H.P. and 650 torque. Only 40 for H.P. but 150 more torque


No, that is about right for an I6

Jassman 02-10-2011 08:09 PM

It will put it right in there with GM and Ford.. and its about 160 pounds lighter than the GM which is about 368 pounds lighter than the Ford..

Comanche3Six 02-10-2011 08:29 PM

Impressive, looks & power!

Catmando 02-11-2011 02:20 AM


Originally Posted by Dueclaws (Post 3321020)

Thanks claws first time I've seen the new hp/tq figures. I knew Cummins was gonna bring the 6.7 up to par. Now with the new interiors nobody can say the motor's great but the truck sucks.

JTeam 02-15-2011 06:45 PM

I was about to order a new 3500 when I read this. I asked my dealer if I ordered a new one would it come with the HO package, and he has no clue. Any Dodge guys here that have the inside track on availability?

Catmando 02-15-2011 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by JTeam (Post 3327348)
I was about to order a new 3500 when I read this. I asked my dealer if I ordered a new one would it come with the HO package, and he has no clue. Any Dodge guys here that have the inside track on availability?

I think that's for 2012. The 2011 is 350/650 like it has been since 2007 1/2. But you can get the Cummins to 400/800 very easily and cheaply.

Go here and ask these guys;

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/6-...ts-discussion/

JTeam 02-15-2011 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by Catmando (Post 3327368)
I think that's for 2012. The 2011 is 350/650 like it has been since 2007 1/2. But you can get the Cummins to 400/800 very easily and cheaply.

Go here and ask these guys;

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/6-...ts-discussion/

Thanks, I'll do that. The press release says sales begin in the second quarter of 2011. They also beefed up the torque converter. I figured if it's the same price, why not? Resale value might be better down the road too. The Mega Cab has me hooked on the Ram.

Catmando 02-15-2011 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by JTeam (Post 3327382)
Thanks, I'll do that. The press release says sales begin in the second quarter of 2011. They also beefed up the torque converter. I figured if it's the same price, why not? Resale value might be better down the road too. The Mega Cab has me hooked on the Ram.

2nd Q great and yes you should wait for it. The stronger TC alone is worth the wait. Nothing beats the Mega, and you can get the 8' bed aftermarket if you want it. $5000 addition but with the extra wheelbase length and better ride the money can be justified. I myself don't like the look of the short bed with that looong cab.

Something else that makes it worth the weight is the new harmonic dampener. I put the Fluidampr on my truck and it made the Cummins run much smoother and quieter. Parts and labor cost me $400.

And the power increase comes from a new ECU only, allowing customers to make their own upgrades through other means.

[BTW 800ftlbs is about a 25% increase and that is significant.]

Catmando 02-15-2011 09:31 PM

Ram Heavy Duty Upgrades Deliver Class-Leading Power and Towing

* Cummins Turbo Diesel now rated at 800 lb.-ft. of torque
* Gross Combined Weight Rating increased to 30,000 lbs.
* 22,700-lb. maximum trailer tow weight leads the segment
* Ram is only heavy-duty pickup that doesn't require Diesel Exhaust Fluid


Ram Truck today announced a series of upgrades to its Heavy Duty truck line up that will give it outright class supremacy in trailer towing.

Now boasting the ability to pull a segment-leading 22,700-lb. maximum trailer weight, the one-ton Ram 3500 Heavy Duty will get a performance boost to its 6.7-liter Cummins Turbo Diesel Engine that will increase its torque by 23 percent to 800 lb.-ft. and be upfitted with a package of components that will increase its gross combined weight rating (GCWR) to 30,000 lbs.

"A Ram Heavy Duty truck owner's most important concern is towing capability – 79 percent of them rate towing as extremely important," said Fred Diaz, President and CEO - Ram Truck Brand, Chrysler Group LLC. "Reliability and engine performance are tied for second – named as extremely important by 73 percent of owners. This 800 lb.-ft. performance upgrade – combined with Ram Truck's unsurpassed 5-year, 100,000-mile powertrain warranty and Cummins' proven reputation for reliability – are a direct response to our customers' high expectations. We stand behind our commitment to build great trucks that are best in class."


800 lb.-ft. of High-Output Torque
A new engine control module (ECM) with revised performance mapping allows the High-Output
6.7-liter, six-cylinder Cummins Turbo Diesel to reach peak torque at 1,600 rpm and exceed the previous model's output from 1,200 through 2,800 rpm. Horsepower is also higher from 1,200 through 2,800 rpm, although maximum horsepower remains 350 at 3,000 rpm.

Behind the powerful, new High-Output Cummins lies a new higher-rated torque converter. The Ram's new torque converter improves engine/transmission integration for better towing capability on grades and optimizes engine performance.

In addition to the new ECM and torque converter, the 800 lb.-ft. Cummins-powered Ram Heavy Duty trucks receive a new crankshaft damper, reducing engine noise and vibration.

Ram Trucks with the new Cummins will feature a special "High Output Cummins" badge on their tailgates.



Best-in-Class Maximum Towing
When properly equipped with the "Max Tow" towing-optimization package, the Ram 3500 Heavy Duty is rated up to 22,700 lbs., the highest tow rating in its class.

Since the launch of the new Ram 2500 and 3500 Heavy Duty for the 2010 model year, towing capability has been the trucks' strong suit with a long list of towing-friendly features including the most powerful standard exhaust brake in the segment (diesel-equipped models). This feature reduces brake fade, prolongs brake life and provides unmatched confidence and safety when hauling heavy loads on downhill grades.

Ram has the largest brakes of any heavy-duty pickup; 14.17 inch x 1.54 inch front and 14.09 inch x 1.34 inch rear with an integrated anti-lock brake system (ABS) that increases brake life and braking stability.

Tow ratings for the Ram 3500 Heavy Duty meet 100 percent of 2013 model year SAE testing standards.


30,000 lbs. GCWR
Dual-rear-wheel-equipped Ram 3500 Heavy Duty pickups with the "Max Tow" package are now rated at 30,000 lbs. GCWR – up from 24,500 lbs.

For maximum towing, Chrysler Group Powertrain engineers gave the Ram 3500 an improved dual-rear wheel axle with a 4.10 gear ratio, new rear-axle pinion, new helical gears, upgraded bearings and a heat-dissipating, finned aluminum differential cover.

As part of the Max Tow upgrade to the Ram 3500, the truck will also get a new engine-mounted, water-to-oil transmission cooler to moderate operating temperatures during trailer towing.

All Ram 2500 and 3500 Heavy Duty pickups will also get upgraded power steering oil coolers to manage the larger loads.


Cummins Turbo Diesel
If you looked up "bulletproof" in the dictionary, you'd find a picture of the Cummins Turbo Diesel engine. With its six-cylinder inline cast iron block and heads, this engine has been providing decades of reliable service in everything from agriculture equipment to construction to over-the-road heavy trucks.

Ram Heavy Duty pickup trucks powered by Cummins diesel engines have been the benchmark of power, durability, reliability and fuel economy since 1989, the first model year that Ram offered the Cummins engine.

Cummins Turbo Diesel-equipped Ram pickups, with major overhaul intervals of 350,000 miles, are the only heavy-duty pickups to meet 2011 EPA compliance rules, without the need for Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) and Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF).

The one-ton Ram 3500 Heavy Duty comes standard with the Cummins Turbo Diesel.


Ram 2500 Heavy Duty pickups equipped with the optional 6.7-liter Cummins Turbo Diesel and automatic transmission (5.7-liter HEMI® engine is standard) also get the 800 lb.-ft. performance upgrade. Because it uses a single rear-wheel axle, GCWR remains unchanged at 22,000 lbs. Manual transmission-equipped Ram Heavy Duty pickups retain their 350 horsepower (261kW) and 650 lb.-ft. (881 N•m) of torque performance ratings. Max Tow is available for regular and crew cab Ram 3500s only.

The new High Output Cummins-equipped Ram 3500 Heavy Duty with 30,000 lb. GCWR "Max Tow" package will go on sale in the second quarter 2011.

JTeam 05-23-2011 09:48 PM

Has anyone figured out if you can actually buy one of these yet?

Catmando 05-24-2011 12:23 AM


Originally Posted by JTeam (Post 3411005)
Has anyone figured out if you can actually buy one of these yet?

Call your dealer and ask about the Max Tow pkg. It should be available now.

offshoredrillin 05-24-2011 06:40 AM

one of my dealerships here in MD has a black and tan turbo diesel... if anyone is interested call and ask for Casey..

http://www.porscheofsilverspring.com...odelId=&Model=

Baja_342 05-24-2011 06:23 PM

I talked to two dealers in March. Neither knew squat about it then. As usual I was informing them about their products.

JTeam 05-24-2011 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by Baja_302 (Post 3411832)
I talked to two dealers in March. Neither knew squat about it then. As usual I was informing them about their products.

Same here. It is on the options list now if you do a build my own on the dodge web site, but the 2 dealers I talked to didn't know a thing.

Jassman 05-25-2011 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by JTeam (Post 3411005)
Has anyone figured out if you can actually buy one of these yet?

you can buy them, and yes Ive driven one..neighbor is a dealer for Ford and Dodge...

baja27 05-26-2011 07:51 AM

Jassman how did you like the dodge?

Jassman 05-26-2011 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by baja27 (Post 3413265)
Jassman how did you like the dodge?

I thought it was a great truck...all the way around...I would own one..just wish I could have hooked my 12k trailer to it.

JTeam 05-26-2011 08:54 PM

I was told you cannot order a 2011 and I can't find a dealer that has one in stock. Hard to believe it is this difficult.

Jassman 05-27-2011 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by JTeam (Post 3413882)
I was told you cannot order a 2011 and I can't find a dealer that has one in stock. Hard to believe it is this difficult.

The one I drove was not the dealers, and was from Dodge...hence the reason I couldnt hook up my trailer or go for an extended drive. I drove a few trucks that day, including a 392 Challanger that the wife wants...in Green with Envy 6 speed manual... I was told they are in production, and a few larger volume stores have them as of now.

RogerThat99 05-30-2011 12:36 PM

Is Dodge still using an cummins inline motor, or have they switched to a V8?

"SHUKO" 05-30-2011 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by RogerThat99 (Post 3415674)
Is Dodge still using an cummins inline motor, or have they switched to a V8?

The inline is obviously a better configuration than the V-8 otherwise wouldn't they be used in big-rigs?

Catmando 05-30-2011 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by RogerThat99 (Post 3415674)
Is Dodge still using an cummins inline motor, or have they switched to a V8?

Dodge is looking at smaller V8 and V6 diesels for their smaller trucks such as the Dakota and the 1500. I understand Cummins is involved in those projects.

The 6.7L Cummins inline 6 diesel has been used since the second half of the 2007 model year and will continue to be the engine of choice for the Ram class 2 through class 5 trucks in the future.

RogerThat99 05-31-2011 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by "SHUKO" (Post 3415764)
The inline is obviously a better configuration than the V-8 otherwise wouldn't they be used in big-rigs?


Originally Posted by Catmando (Post 3415805)
Dodge is looking at smaller V8 and V6 diesels for their smaller trucks such as the Dakota and the 1500. I understand Cummins is involved in those projects.

The 6.7L Cummins inline 6 diesel has been used since the second half of the 2007 model year and will continue to be the engine of choice for the Ram class 2 through class 5 trucks in the future.

The question wasn't meant to say the inline isn't as good as a V8. I was asking the question because the inlines put out more torque and could be the reason for the torque numbers that were asked about above. I think most would agree, when it comes to diesel pickups, the Cummins motor is the best motor. I drive a Ford and wish I had the Cummins motor.

Jassman 05-31-2011 06:35 PM

recieved this today in an email... the hp is lower than gm and Ford.. 397 and 400 vs 350 for the Ram. The one I drove felt more lively than the 350 hp versions of past.


JEFF JASSBY:

At Ram Truck, we build our heavy-duty pickups with an engine that doesn't just throw numbers around — it proves them in the real world.

PROVEN MILE AFTER MILE. DECADE AFTER DECADE.
The renowned Cummins® Turbo Diesel engine has a long resume of consistently delivering the durability and strength needed to haul heavy loads. Check the stats it brings to Ram heavy-duty pickups:

• Best-in-Class 22,700-lb towing capacity1
(available in 3500 pickups)

• Unsurpassed 30,000 GCWR1 (available in 3500 pickups)

• Unsurpassed available 800 lb-ft of torque2, 350 horsepower

• Standard integrated diesel exhaust brake

• Available class-exclusive manual 6-speed transmission3

• Doesn't require Diesel Exhaust Fluid, unlike the competition2

And with a 5-Year/100,000-Mile Powertrain Limited Warranty4, why would you buy any other truck?

Get to your local Ram Truck dealer today, and test-drive proven Cummins engine power for yourself.

Catmando 05-31-2011 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by RogerThat99 (Post 3416231)
The question wasn't meant to say the inline isn't as good as a V8. I was asking the question because the inlines put out more torque and could be the reason for the torque numbers that were asked about above. I think most would agree, when it comes to diesel pickups, the Cummins motor is the best motor. I drive a Ford and wish I had the Cummins motor.

1. No I wouldn't say that. Inline six diesels are better than V8s for many reasons.

2. The Cummins delivers its peak torque much lower in the rpm band...1400-1600rpms... than V8s do. That means much less wear on parts.

3. I agree the Cummins is the best, especially for those who tow a lot.

4. You can have a Cummins swap;

www.fordcummins.com


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