Max Energy Power Programmer
 

Anyone using this? Does it make a big difference on a F-150 2010?:party-smiley-004:

Personally i dont think any programmer is worth the money on a gasser, they dont give that much more hp. But on a diesel that is a whole different story, they really come alive. Just my opinion

Disagree, if your using junk canned tune, then yeh.... but if you have someone like 5* who can customize a tune for you and email it, or have someone that can dyno tune then either will shows a huge difference on a gasser. I have my truck running a tune with SCT, night and day difference and I run a performance tune on 93 octane and get better mileage as well. Turbos will always respond better b/c of increased boost = more power, but a good tune on a gasser can show a nice difference.

Wild Cherry - never heard of that programmer but I wouldn't even bother with anything other than SCT for Fords, SCT software > all others. Contact http://www.5startuning.com/ and they'll hook you up with killer tunes for the 5.4

Let us know how much hp gain you get with the tuner

Quicksliver I stand corrected, there web site and claims dont look to bad as well as $$$

I had an '05 8.1 Suburban that I used a Diablo Predator hand held tuner for. It changed the requirement to premium fuel, firmed up shifts etc. While I did not dyno it, they claimed a 30 hp gain and there was no question that it gained power. Not sure if you will see the same gain in a small block, but I would recommend it.

However, I would be concerned about the trans if you are towing a heavy load with a tune. You may dvelop more power than it is rated for and with a heavy load,you could be asking for trouble. Not sure what trans an F150 has..

Problem is a lot of people just buy a tuner and that's it, connect it and run the "canned" tune that comes with it which is barely better than stock. But if you dyno tune it or have a place like 5* that can write a custom tune for it and send you, you can see some nice gains on a gas engine.

I have tuning done with SCT programmer and it's really night and day difference on my truck, n/a V8, vs stock.
Nah the 6 speed in the F-150 is stout, it's a strong trans. But going back to your Burb', yeh it pry wasn't near 30hp, canned Diablo tunes suck. But if you had somebody like Blackbear write a custom tune for it and send you to use, you would be like holy **** lol.

I'm asking this because I was never able to get get a specific answer from these companies. What is exactly is custom about a custom tune that creates more hp than an over the counter unit? Every stock motor is the same, so what is being customized that makes Blackbear or Westor, or anyone else's so different? They're not putting your specific motor on a dyno, its a canning software program.

They can modify the torque or hp curve and you might get power earlier if you wanted, you can remove the torque managment feature, etc, but more max power, how??

I could not get an answer,so I bought a programmer over the counter.

Also, the 8.1 'Burb made 340/460 hp/torque stock. Adding 30 hp is 8-9% more hp. My thinking was just going to premium fuel in big block would develop meaningful gains in that ballpark..

My $.02.

This programer work great on my Duramax, It's been a while since I have had a gasser but on the fords I always used a superchips since they were tight with Diablo Sport and Diablo does alot of Ford OEM stuff.

Basically a good tuner using good software can adjust/control almost everything, from a/f ratio, timing, transmission etc. Anything to do with the engine can pretty much be tweeked etc. I.E. On my truck canned tune only showed 6 rwhp gain, and that was with intake/exhaust already done. Custom tune using SCT = extra 20+ rwhp/tq alone just from tweeking, and it's across the whole powerband. Made a huge difference, impressive for a n/a V8.

Just b/c you plug a tuner in and run the "canned high octane" program that comes with it, and running 93 octane doesn't mean it's optimized. My friend ran Hypertech on his Denali, don't know much about Westor, but he had Blackbear write custom tunes I think with efiLive... but the truck run's so much better and quicker now. Being able to control and adjust the GM 6 speed for firmness and **** points is a huge thing also, b/c GM has got to have the worst tq mngt of any manufacturer.