Nor-Tech 50' cat behind a 3500 GMC?
10-27-2011, 02:43 PM
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Just be safe man, thats a LOT of money behind you that will be comin out of your checkbook if anything happens. Because you're out of bounds on the insurance setup.
No ones tellin you NOT to do it, its just that its a LOT to worry about and a LOT to handle. Most of have exceeded capacity plenty of times without incident. But its still taking a huge risk.
11-06-2011, 03:07 PM
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Who cares about the length, trailer type, brake type or year of truck..
HOW MUCH DOES THE BOAT AND TRAILER WEIGH TOGETHER?
Thats where you're going to get stuck.
Will it stop properly? Yes. If you have the right brakes under your truck and trailer.
Will it pull it? Yes.. Theres enough HP assuming you're running a diesel.
Will it wander all over the highway because the front of the truck is in the air? YES.
If you had a trailer brake failure, would the truck stop the entire weight of the rig? NO.
Im assuming a 4 engine 50' cat is going to be over 20k. Adding leaf springs, airbags and all that will help significantly with stability but you're still taking a chance. You've got a LOT to lose, literally, behind that truck.
You sure you want to save a few bucks and risk it? You should really consider a truck upgrade...
I may be wrong, the weight may well be within the capacity of the truck. But I doubt it.
HOW MUCH DOES THE BOAT AND TRAILER WEIGH TOGETHER?
Thats where you're going to get stuck.
Will it stop properly? Yes. If you have the right brakes under your truck and trailer.
Will it pull it? Yes.. Theres enough HP assuming you're running a diesel.
Will it wander all over the highway because the front of the truck is in the air? YES.
If you had a trailer brake failure, would the truck stop the entire weight of the rig? NO.
Im assuming a 4 engine 50' cat is going to be over 20k. Adding leaf springs, airbags and all that will help significantly with stability but you're still taking a chance. You've got a LOT to lose, literally, behind that truck.
You sure you want to save a few bucks and risk it? You should really consider a truck upgrade...
I may be wrong, the weight may well be within the capacity of the truck. But I doubt it.
Agree with Waterboy.
Towing capacity of 2002 GMC 3500 is less than 15K with a gooseneck.
Adding stuff to the truck does not increase the towing capacity!
Just the way it handles the load.
Take the boat and trailer to a truck stop weigh station and weigh it then you will know.
just FYI--------
My 2000 28 Skater plus Skater trailer weighs 6050 lbs total-
with 460lbs tongue wt.
11-24-2011, 11:56 AM
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You are correct, the trailer is purpose built for that weight, length and balance. Its the truck that will sway. If its independent front suspension, it'll be even worse but I think that model has a solid front axle. With that much weight on the back of the truck, the front tires will only be riding on the outer edges of the tread pattern. Which makes your steering SUPER "responsive" because you have such little drag against the rubber..
Just be safe man, thats a LOT of money behind you that will be comin out of your checkbook if anything happens. Because you're out of bounds on the insurance setup.
No ones tellin you NOT to do it, its just that its a LOT to worry about and a LOT to handle. Most of have exceeded capacity plenty of times without incident. But its still taking a huge risk.
Just be safe man, thats a LOT of money behind you that will be comin out of your checkbook if anything happens. Because you're out of bounds on the insurance setup.
No ones tellin you NOT to do it, its just that its a LOT to worry about and a LOT to handle. Most of have exceeded capacity plenty of times without incident. But its still taking a huge risk.
Also to the poster above the towing weight rate of a 3500 dually with a gooseneck is much more than 15k.
11-24-2011, 01:55 PM
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Most gooseneck hitches recommend installation 3 to 5 inches in front of the centerline of the rear axle helping transfer weight up front.
When I cross the scales (2-5 times a day!) In my dodge pulling a 50ft gooseneck combined weight around 25-26k the front axle reads 4500lbs while the rear reads about 8500 lbs and the triples on the trailer share 13000 lbs.
Empty weight on my truck is around 6500 lbs (reg cab 2wd) proving my front end is not light or riding high. I have 100000 miles on my 10 month old cummims, 400k on my 03, (both 2wd) plus 3 previous cummins. We haul like this with zero problems.
When I cross the scales (2-5 times a day!) In my dodge pulling a 50ft gooseneck combined weight around 25-26k the front axle reads 4500lbs while the rear reads about 8500 lbs and the triples on the trailer share 13000 lbs.
Empty weight on my truck is around 6500 lbs (reg cab 2wd) proving my front end is not light or riding high. I have 100000 miles on my 10 month old cummims, 400k on my 03, (both 2wd) plus 3 previous cummins. We haul like this with zero problems.
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11-25-2011, 09:44 AM
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Your truck will pull the boat good. "Safe" depends on driver more then equipment. Proper tire pressure. Working brakes. And air bags will help.
I tow a 50ft trailer weighing 20,000 lbs everyday for a living behind my dodge. I have put over 600,000 miles accident free doing this.
I tow a 50ft trailer weighing 20,000 lbs everyday for a living behind my dodge. I have put over 600,000 miles accident free doing this.
11-25-2011, 10:05 AM
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Yes. I own my business so commercially I am legal. I have insurance which has to get sent in to the FMCSA DOT electronically to keep my DOT number active and legal. So anyone who says insurance wont cover is wrong. I have been through every state multiple times. I have yearly inspections and random inspections while crossing the scales and maintain a very clean DOT record.
As for recreational towing I find it hard to believe the laws would be any more strict...prob less strict. I personally believe all these rumors are started by uneducated car salesman trying to make an extra buck.
As for recreational towing I find it hard to believe the laws would be any more strict...prob less strict. I personally believe all these rumors are started by uneducated car salesman trying to make an extra buck.
11-27-2011, 03:08 PM
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ROCK ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ITS A SKATER NATION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
