Well, since you're strictly debating mechanics and physics over ride comfort and cool factor...

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I'll stick with the dually, regardless of the PSI ground contact and all that.. It has a wider track, better brakes (yes I tow other peoples trailers so I do rely heavily on brakes that are overkill just in case)..

Not to mention, my "ego" would never allow me to buy something that would work "just fine" for the job at hand!

Even a ball peen hammer can break a window, but I still prefer throwing a cinder block through it..

The price difference in a 2012 SRW vs DRW Chevy is under $3000. I can rotate 6 tires versus 4 so that gives me about 30% more mileage from my tires. I could run all the math to show that it would, more than likely, pay for the DRW upgrade over 10 years, but I don't keep my vehicles that long.

And the comfort of knowing that I have a backup in case of a RW blowout..

Plus it just looks SO much cooler! (sorry, that was my EGO, again!)

Hows your ride comfort empty in the snow or rain with a DRW? Not as good as a SRW and thats a fact.

I have an 8' bed.. It doesnt seem to bother me.. Havent had it in the snow, only my F550. But Im POSITIVE it will ride like a highspeed bulldozer on snowpacked roads.. It drifts all over the place on dirt roads over 35..

But again, I didnt buy it for that.. I didnt buy it to drive empty, in the snow, or on dirt roads.. However, I do..

Im just razzin you about the ego comment.. And you'll notice I haven't had one negative thing to say about SRW's.. I think they have their place. I've owned probably 6 or 7 of them. You're right, they ride GREAT.. Empty or loaded, compared to a dually. I just "prefer" to tow with a dually because of how heavy I tow... Luckily we can buy whatever we decide we want, right?

I deserve the razzin on the ego! LOL! Its all part of the fun on OSO.

I just want others who can not afford f550 (like you!) etc to not get pressured into buying a dually and overlooking other more important things that make towing safe. There are just so many factors everyone does not think about.

I will admit that I was once misinformed about DRW trucks. My first drive in a snowstorm (I live in Michigan so that happens around here!) left brownspots in my shorts and I thought the white knuckle might be permanent! No one ever told me how the duals fight the front tires. How the outside tires have to cut a fresh path, riding up on the snow leaving less traction for the inside tires. In 4WD the truck fishtailed at 30mph like a empty 2wd truck would.

Everyones situation is different.

BUT, you all have to admit that if this thread started with a video of a SRW truck it would have a million comments like "should have got a dually". etc etc.

Some poor guy would read these comments and buy a drw not realizing all the downsides. And I am not talking about fast food drive thru's!

:-)

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As for the comments on this thread and others about a DRW not fitting in a fast food drive through, who is picking a TOW vehicle based on that? :eek:

Park it and walk!
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You can not be serious, you expect me to get off my old, tired & lazy azz and walk - how dare you son! :)

Yeah they are not real good in the snow, never noticed any difference in rain though.

Towed with both. Snow with both. Towed in the snow with both!

I'll take da dually!

I beleive thats the general concensus, and agreed 100%.

Bottom line, first and foremost, you have the truck that is legally rated to tow the load you are pulling, in the manner you are towing. Then add in your comfort level of truck, SRW or DRW.

Second you have to have a trailer that is safe and inspected by yourself (or someone that is capable of such) on a regular basis ( maintainence, mechanical & safety issues ).

I walk my entire trailer & rig everytime before I leave going to the ramp and when comming back. I check all the tie down points, safety chain at the bow stop, transom tie downs, bow stop winch and strap, tire pressures, lug nuts, lights, safety chains, electrical connections, tires, grease, etc. I also check the brakes, hitch bolts, ball and trailer bolt every other time out. Overkill, maybe, but atleast I know everything is in good working order.

I also check the same comparators on the tow vehicle as the trailer along with fluid levels.

Alot of extra time doing this but worth it to be safe and secure in the tow.

Take a 15k boat ,,,,,,make a highway quick/emergency/panic hard lane change in a SRW and then a DRW.

See which one is still on the road after.

Can't speak for GM or Dodge, but on Ford I think the only difference between F250/350SRW/DRW is the leaf pack. Brakes, axles, drivelines all the same.

Randy

Look in a parts book for brakes etc. From what Ive seen, the brakes are larger on the DRW for the most part. Even though the rears & driveline may be the same, the brakes are usually or can be a larger diameter and wider pad, along with the heavier duty springs in the 350 series. I found this when looking at parts for a one ton I had.

Especially with surge brakes. EoH = best, but surge--it's all over.

I stand corrected. Looks like the rear calipers have larger pistons, providing more bias to the rear. Randy

We went on a motorcycling trip last year in Europe, almost all the big trucks and dump trucks I saw had a pair of of wider singles in the back. I talked to two drivers and they both said that they really didn't notice the difference.
Even after hearing this I'd much prefer to have 8 drive wheels on my dump trucks and 4 drive wheels on my tow rig. It's not just the false peace of mind it may offer me but also the abilty to still move my load in a flat back tire situation on one of my rear axles.

See ya,
Kelly

Exactly what I did when I was hauling for a living. All pleasureboaters should have a checklist they follow at every stop(for gas and such). Peace of mind is priceless on the road.

Doesn't the real bottom line come down to the truck needs to have the capacity to haul the load in question. It should be within the legal parameters of the truck mfg and the DOT. Otherwize that guy who feels very comfortable towing his 42ft trailer with 30,000 lbs with his SRW truck with air bags or not happens to get into an accident at which point his insurance co won't pay out because his confidence wasn't within the laws. So now what? Just because you CAN do it doesn't mean you SHOULD do it. I'd rather have more truck than the trailer needs than more trailer than the truck can handle. It's all about that PANIC situation, what then offshoreEX?

What what?? LOL! so you think with over 1 million miles hauling commercial with a SRW Dodge and a 50ft trailer I have not had any panic situations? I encounter them everyday! I am legal, if you actually read what I wrote. I am insured, don't know what car salesman tried to sell you on that BS, I am DOT legal, again read what I wrote. Last week I had 2 hardcore level one DOT inspections in georgia and new mexico with a 100% perfect inspection, no violations. what else do you want out of me?

You dually lovers talk about safe but then say "well if my trailer brakes go out I would rather have a dually to handle it". WOW thats really safe! LOL!

When MY trailer brakes go out, I PULL over and fix them. Now thats safe. If I could not fix them I would hire a mobile mechanic or tow truck.

Again I ask, if a dually is so much safer please post pics of your dually trailers. If not then stop saying that a SRW can not be properly set up to tow as good or better then a dually.

Yes a Dually can be set up to haul as good or better then a SRW. Yes duallys are bad ass. I love all trucks and have owned many.

Just trying to share my positive experience, and facts, about towing with a SRW.
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It's still all about the weight of the load and the weight of the tongue or load on the truck. So your SRW truck is rated at what tow weight? Those single tires are rated at what load each? And I've seen plenty of dual wheel trailers, HEAVY equipment trailers and boat trailers. Why? Because of the weight of the load period. And if you've driven both dually and SRW and can't feel the difference in stability simply due to the wider track and bigger foot print that speaks volumes in itself about your ability I would say. Yes big light loads can be hauled with SRW trucks but SRW trucks are limited by weight capacity period end of story and you can't get around that legally, or otherwise. You didn't pass any DOT stop towing a 30,000# load with a SRW truck rated at 5,000# or even 10,000# for that matter. So what SRW truck has a 30,000# tow rating? And those single tires are rated at what load each? I'm done here!

offshore help my out here... I think (could be wrong) based on the 2012 ram spec sheet, that the SRW max trailer weight it around 18K, and the DRW is at 22,700. A 50ft trailer fully loaded is under 20K??

I'm a tire guy so I can maybe help with some of those questions:
1. Single wheel verse duals on a trailer comes down to one basic concept, dual wheel trailers are more difficult to maneuver. They have a high payload capacity by virtue of the tire weight ratings, so in heavy hauling situations, such as equipment trailers, you see them much more. A 38 TG is not considered a heavy load and easily fits into the weight capacity of 6 trailer tires (app specific) therefore you see a triple axle single wheel set up.
2. Big single tractors and trailers are coming into use as the future of some hauling rigs for a couple of reasons. They actually put MORE rubber on the road verses a conventional DRW, and based on sidewall ply's etc, have similar weight capabilities.
3. A few guys have said that the sidewalls on a DRW pickup tire are stiffer than a SRW. Not true. What creates that feeling is, instead of 2 pairs of sidewalls handling the sway of a vehicle and trailer, you have 4 pairs.
4. Offshore and Habanajoe have mentioned the physics behind a SRW tire pressure on the road vs. a DRW carrying the same weight or towing the same tongue weight. They ARE RIGHT. The weight concentrated on a smaller contact patch creates a higher pressure which creates heat, etc. All that too say, a SRW truck actually does have better traction in some circumstances. But there are more issues at play here...
5. DRW in most 2013 Light duty pickup trucks, have slightly larger rear breaks. They also have higher bed/tongue payload capabilities, and higher towing weight capabilities. The reason being: When both trucks are loaded to their max capabilities, the DRW is capable of more.

So bottom line? DUALLY ALWAYS :poopoo:

Just kidding. Do a little research, and pick the truck for your application and if you are going from a 25ft OL to a 38 TG, you also have to look at your towrig! Gotta pay to play right?? :angry-smiley-038:

Oh to actually comment on the video :lolhit: DRW pickups are harder to roll. Just trust me on this

:cartman:That rig needed sway control and equalizer bars.