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Jupiter Sunsation 12-27-2011 10:38 AM

New Ford Explorer....Good, Bad, Ugly?
 
Anyone have any input on the new body style (2011 I think) Explorer?

soldier4402 12-27-2011 10:55 AM

they look cool

verbi69 12-27-2011 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by soldier4402 (Post 3580045)
they look cool

+1 on that!!

Sydwayz 12-27-2011 11:11 AM

I've rented a few on the road. Drive nice, comfortable and lots of bells.

Disappointed they don't have a DRW version with a brake controller though. :drink:

soldier4402 12-27-2011 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3580053)
I've rented a few on the road. Drive nice, comfortable and lots of bells.

Disappointed they don't have a DRW version with a brake controller though. :drink:

lol

Catmando 12-27-2011 12:56 PM

They're called "Exploders" for a reason...

Lee 12-27-2011 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by Catmando (Post 3580134)
They're called "Exploders" for a reason...

What is the reason?

Catmando 12-27-2011 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Lee (Post 3580137)
What is the reason?

Because they explode their head gaskets when they overheat even a few degrees.

smdude 12-27-2011 01:38 PM

My wife and I own a 2012 with eco-boost, its one fine machine, and gets about 24 mpg's around town. She loves the seats and all the extras.

soldier4402 12-27-2011 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Catmando (Post 3580160)
Because they explode their head gaskets when they overheat even a few degrees.

Doesnt any engine have that possibility really? I mean to say an engine faults more than others in red line, doesnt mean its bad.

Jupiter Sunsation 12-27-2011 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Catmando (Post 3580160)
Because they explode their head gaskets when they overheat even a few degrees.

New engines Cat.... But still not a cummins!

45Tripps 12-27-2011 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3580053)
I've rented a few on the road. Drive nice, comfortable and lots of bells.

Disappointed they don't have a DRW version with a brake controller though. :drink:

LMAO. You forgot the extra wide tire option for the DRW so there is more surface area contact.:evilb:

IRONMAN 12-27-2011 07:22 PM

I am not happy with the lack of 2 speed transfer case, V8, tow rating, etc... Ford just lost me as a customer:eek: However if someone is upgrading to it from a small suv like rav4 or microbus i think it might be a nice upgrade

Baja_342 12-28-2011 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by IRONMAN (Post 3580417)
I am not happy with the lack of 2 speed transfer case, V8, tow rating, etc... Ford just lost me as a customer:eek: However if someone is upgrading to it from a small suv like rav4 or microbus i think it might be a nice upgrade

Not so sure about all that....

Towing is the same as previous gen....5K, right? Works just fine if you're moving a small trailer, renting a tool , etc.

The Ecoboost will pull much harder than the V8s they put in the older ones. I had an '02 EB with the V8. I drive a Lincoln MKT with the Ecoboost. EB crushes the 4.6.

OP, I'm 19k miles into what I would assume to be the same chasis and drive train as the new Explorer. I'm very happy with my car. Notice I said car, IRONMAN, not truck:)

soldier4402 12-28-2011 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by Baja_342 (Post 3580578)
Not so sure about all that....

Towing is the same as previous gen....5K, right? Works just fine if you're moving a small trailer, renting a tool , etc.

The Ecoboost will pull much harder than the V8s they put in the older ones. I had an '02 EB with the V8. I drive a Lincoln MKT with the Ecoboost. EB crushes the 4.6.

OP, I'm 19k miles into what I would assume to be the same chasis and drive train as the new Explorer. I'm very happy with my car. Notice I said car, IRONMAN, not truck:)

i would agree Explorers or anything in that class isnt really know for towing and probably never will be. IF you need to tow big buy something else.

4bus 12-28-2011 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by Baja_342 (Post 3580578)
Not so sure about all that....

Towing is the same as previous gen....5K, right? Works just fine if you're moving a small trailer, renting a tool , etc.

Acutally the old Explorer with a V8 was rated a little over 7k lbs.

The thing that people need to get used to (and should be happy about) is the phase out of these midsize TRUCK based SUVs that really didn't make a lot of sense, seeing that most were used for shopping and never went off road.

The new lines (explorer, chevy traverse) are unibody "Car" chassis, known as crossovers. So yes towing and cargo weight will be slightly down, but handling, fuel economy, and durability will all be up. 2WD are FWD instead of rear, so many more will be made FWD only. New tech like the Eco V6 give more power than most moms will ever need, and will out accelerate the old V8 versions.

I rented a Traverse and was surpised the inside was almost as large as my full size denali. It was impressive.

Quicksilver 12-28-2011 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by Baja_342 (Post 3580578)
Not so sure about all that....

Towing is the same as previous gen....5K, right? Works just fine if you're moving a small trailer, renting a tool , etc.

The Ecoboost will pull much harder than the V8s they put in the older ones. I had an '02 EB with the V8. I drive a Lincoln MKT with the Ecoboost. EB crushes the 4.6.

OP, I'm 19k miles into what I would assume to be the same chasis and drive train as the new Explorer. I'm very happy with my car. Notice I said car, IRONMAN, not truck:)

The V8's will crush the new ones, they don't have the V6 Ecoboost, the Ecoboost engine in the new Explorers is the new 2.0 turbo 4 banger. It's based an modified version of the D4 that underpins the Flex/MKT. Their really nice, and their getting the kinks worked out of My Ford Touch/Microsoft sync. But totally a unibody crossover now, even the last 2 gens had full IS suspension front and rear but they were still built on a truck frame. Jeep still offers a V8 but it's held back by a pos trans geared poorly and the truck is a friggen fat porker now.

I've had a couple Explorers/Mountaineers, all V8's and usually modded, excellent trucks. Actually not a single problem ever with any of them and I still keep a V8 Mountaineer around as a beater with 135k miles and runs like new. Meanwhile almost every foreign make we've had including Lexus has had issues lol. They were definitely the best mid-sized trucks for towing.


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3580647)
New tech like the Eco V6 give more power than most moms will ever need, and will out accelerate the old V8 versions.
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No Eco-6, only an Eco-4 banger that's slow, otherwise you get a nice n/a V6. If Ford offered the Ecoboost 6 in the Explorer I totally would have bought one, that's the only thing missing from that truck (I mean urban assault unibody cross-over) lol. Doesn't make sense why they don't as the Flex/MKT are being phased out.

4bus 12-28-2011 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by Quicksilver (Post 3580718)
No Eco-6, only an Eco-4 banger that's slow, otherwise you get a nice n/a V6. If Ford offered the Ecoboost 6 in the Explorer I totally would have bought one, that's the only thing missing from that truck (I mean urban assault unibody cross-over) lol. Doesn't make sense why they don't as the Flex/MKT are being phased out.

I wasn't aware of that. Maybe it is in the plans down the road? The taurus has it, it is the same platform correct?

We also still have a V8 Aviator. My wifey loves it, and it has great power. Gets 16 mph with full time AWD. I have towed our 27ft cruiser with it, for just a short run, but I was surprised how well it did. It is a great spare vehicle in great shape, will prob have it for many years to come.

Jupiter Sunsation 12-28-2011 09:24 AM

Comes with 2 different engine options:
3.5 V6 w/ 290 HP/255 TQ or
2.0 Ecoboost 240 HP/270 TQ

Quicksilver 12-28-2011 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3580731)
I wasn't aware of that. Maybe it is in the plans down the road? The taurus has it, it is the same platform correct?

We also still have a V8 Aviator. My wifey loves it, and it has great power. Gets 16 mph with full time AWD. I have towed our 27ft cruiser with it, for just a short run, but I was surprised how well it did. It is a great spare vehicle in great shape, will prob have it for many years to come.

I still have a 5.0 Mountaineer (one with 135k miles) and 10' 4.6, both modded. Stock it was quicker then the Aviator b/c of the nice 6 speed auto and flat torque band where the Avi is more of a rev'er... I had a custom tune done for it though and the truck fly's compared to stock haha, just intake and exhaust mods as well. Get's about 22 highway at 75, a good tune totally wakes these 4.6 engines up, stock was like 20 hwy which was still good.

I loved the new Explorer and wanted to trade in for it, but can't get over they don't offer the Ecoboost 6. The regular V6 is nice, but the Ecoboost 4 is slow, even with more torque that supposedly hit's lower... drive both and it's a night and day difference, the V6 has better power and passing ability everywhere. And so far in real world use the 4 hasn't shown really much better mileage both from owners and even pro reviews.

yeh they all share a similar platform, Taurus is on a D3 I think, and the D4 is a modified version of it with the Explorer having an updated version of that.

Wasted Income 12-28-2011 09:42 AM

Pretty fugly IMO. Just another crossover lookin turd.

Baja_342 12-28-2011 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 3580737)
Comes with 2 different engine options:
3.5 V6 w/ 290 HP/255 TQ or
2.0 Ecoboost 240 HP/270 TQ

I didn't know this either. I ASS UMED being a decent sized crossover it had the 3.5 EB. Maybe that will come out when Lincoln brings back the Aviator??? (if and when)...


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