the new dodge trucks have garmin for built in GPS. what pisses me off is my nuvi 250 is $70 for lifetime updates. the one in the truck is over $300 for ONE update. I use the hand held 90% of the time.

I have had two duramaxes ('02 LB7 and 08 LMM in a 4500 kodiak.), as well as a 06 5.9 2500 mega cab and an '11 6.7 2500 quad cab. All of these motors have performed shockingly well for me. I have to say, though, having the Allison in the Kodiak makes a world of a difference. I just pulled a flatbed that was about 10k (and the truck weighs 12 to start with) up from CA to portland this morning. It amazes me how that transmission can handle the power, stay in lockup in any gear, and shift smoother than any car, even under load. The cummins motor might be torquier, but the 68rfe, while night and day compared to the old 4 speed just doesn't work as well. I wish Dodge would tune their torque converters to hook up so we could use the motor.

I had the zf 6 speed manual in the '02 Chevy. The clutch judder made pulling boats out and maneuvering trailers a lot less fun than it should have been. Had I know how good the Allison was back then, I'd never have gone with the manual.

Yeah I know you can get built in, but I aint paying the 1000 bucks or whatever it is for it. Im talking about something molded into the dash to fit the standard portable GPS systems.

What I am reffering to is something like a slot or cup holder build into the top of the dash with a plug where you could slide the gps in and plug it in or put the gps mount and all into the dash

Do interiors really matter? Man I dont know how many times I have seen somebody hauling and been like nice interior. Thats one thing I could care less about. I mean guess if two brands were even than maybe that would be the deciding factor.

Ok now the arguments are over lets see some of these bad azz trucks no matter what make.

Until they start putting Allison's in Fords and Dodges, I'll stick with GM...........

I think the comfort of interior, and egernomics and positioning of knobs makes a big difference in fatigue for us guys doing longer hauls. When you drive to Atlanta every other week..it makes a difference. Just picked up a 32 Regulator, delivered it to NC area....long azz haul..then off to WI to bring a 69 Z28 down...43 hours of driving... Comfort makes a difference..especially for us older guys..:drink:

Agreed

Really? I ride in the truck, not in that back. LOL

Yes....piece of cake! A five year old can work on these! :drink::drink::drink:

I have to agree with Jeff and Nort. Interiors make a big difference to me. I guess to each his own :ernaehrung004:

Sam

Mine is a 1/2 ton, but everyone who has ridden in my truck claimed they liked the interior. It was very important to me.

I guess if your job is to ride in that truck. But If is x truck is better truck all around im not going to buy Y because the interior was better. Had a chevy 1/2 ton, 07 and 08 F250 now an 11 F150 and to be honest dont really know the difference. Chevy's interior was outdated from the start but the seats were comfy as and things were laid out descent the 07 f250 interior was straight out of 1999, 08 wasnt to bad and the new 11 is pretty good.

Crew cab long bed SRW ford is the only way to go!!! Great looking Rig!!!!

Finally for 2013..some colors from the 150 series..like the Candy Red and Blue Flame Im told that is what customers want..new wheels, interior..which is good by me dont really care for the over rated King Ranch look..THE PLATINUM EDDITION..

Still Running the 2003 7.3 to good of truck to move up.

I hear the turbo goes out at around 200,000. Are you there yet?

Are you out of the homebuilding business now or is this hauling just a side job for you?

I thought all the 7.3s were turbo motors?? I had a 1987 F250 6.9 non-turbo IDI it was a dog hauling anything over 5000lbs.

7.3 just gets broke in at 200k they run 400k or more with no problems im only at 150k long way to go. With the edge program in it 18 mpg spinning 37s and all the power and torque you ever need.

Ive had my hotshot and car hauling business's since right after the storm....it's just taken off over the last 3.5 years. I have two different trucks and great working relation with my partners. I haul boats for certain clients through out the year. The building business really has been great, busy enough to keep everyone working...My great customers that we have built houses for years back realized in this economy they could not sell to upgrade, and had us revamp their existing home..or do courtyards and outdoor kitchens..pools, maintenace.. we do what ever to keep them happy ..so we have adapted in that direction...and I praise the Lord everyday.

LOVE the Candy Red Metallic on my '11 F-150.

Looks great seeing it on a Super Duty!

AGREE.. I had a 10 F150 in that color...and Im a Blue guy.. Im actually thinking of getting a dually in that color come Sept/Oct.

I dont think they were, at least some werent

09 Ford F350 dually, 6.4 with custom tunes from KEM performance, truck gets 22-23 empty and 16-17 pulling about 14-15K. this is my second one and couldnt be happier with it! i have a buddy with a GM and he hates it and one with a dodge and he loves it, haha. personally i think its personal preference, just like anything else, cars, boats, guns, ect.

Have you ever done the math by hand. Buddy has a 09f450 with spartan and his says the same thing, but actual is a lot less than what that device tells him. From what I heard this is quite common for these devices to say a lot more. Think empty his says 20-22 and really is more like 15-16

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I'm really surprised he got that good with the 4.88 axle on that 450. I would have thought 12-13 hwy unloaded.

Both my Dodge diesels had real-time mpg gauges and they showed between 3-4 mpg more than hand calculated.

yeah is spartan was showing 20+ with no load and 16-17 with a 9500lb boat, we were shocked. Well he went back and hand jammed it and he gets about 16ish now and were guessing around 12-13 towing that boat. But from what I heard a lot of these tuners are full of it as far as their MPG. Either way his F450 got like 8-10mpg all the time dont matter what before Spartan. Thing runs like a raped ape now. Im a beleiver in the system beyond his turbos sound like a freight train and he cant keep boots on them. Damn truck also has a high pitched whine at idle now, that is the things people with tuners dont tell you. Im sure tuners are great specially on older models, problem is newer models are far more complicated to just hack off the DPF and tell the computer to no do a regen.

Went to the Vintage Races with a friend this week who owns a Ford F250 6.0. He pulls about 10,000 #s combined enclosed trailer and TransAm race car. He is tired of the expense of owning a diesel and is planning on trading it in on an F150 eco-boost with an 11,300# tow rating.

I would have liked to see the load lowered to 11,300# and seen how the eco-boost compared to the big three with diesel power. (FYI currently have both Ford & Chev in my garage. Have owned Mopar in the past.)

had two Diesel F250's 06 and 08 have the 11,300 EB and will not look back. I tow a 9500lb boat.

My cousin in Alabama and I were talking about this same subject recently and he has just about got me talked into one of these for towing.

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You know...at the end of the day this 6 x 6 would be a "Champ at the Ramp" and I wouldn't have to concern myself with overloading it.:evilb:

it's amazing how much cooler, smoother, and better these engine (diesels) in general run w/o the DPF and a good tune. Have used Spartan/SCT on all the Ford diesels, with dpf delete, always big increase in mpg hand calc'd.

Friend has one modded too (450), all I know is that with the 4.88 gears truck flies and pulls with ease lol. And at least when stock was always in the 10-11 range whether loaded/unloaded like you mentioned which I always thought was odd lol.

If I were he I would trade for a 2003+ Dodge 2500 5.9L diesel or sell the Ferd outright. They are getting pretty rare but they can still be found. At that weight he would get much better fuel economy than the gas motor. Easier to mod up too.