Originally Posted by ChargeIt (Post 3838634)

I took the comment as an opportunity to check out the latest since I had not looked hard at the details since 2008 when I last purchased.

On leg room, f150 and 250 were similar and probably do have more leg room numerically than gm BUT the rear seat still SUCKS. It may have improved with slightly more padding since 08 so it now feels like a padded 2x12. It has a poor angle that does not support an average adult's legs thus no matter how much room one has for knees, it is still uncomfortable. Sit in the back of a leather SLT / LTZ to see what I mean.
Tons of plastic pannels used that Ford tries to make look tough but comes off toy cheap IMO.

Rear bumper on the f150 felt like I could fold it in with my hands, f250 was slightly heavier. I have not touched at 2014 gm yet but again, they dont look much better.

Disappointed in the cheap hitch on both fords. f150 is only rated at 5,000 tow, 500 tongue. f250 only 8,500 tow, 800 tongue. I do like ford's sticker that differentiates weights with and without a reducer sleeve. Too bad most will still never read or understand. GM atleast has stepped it up a little on the 2500 hitch with a tow of 13,000, 1,300 tongue.

About crapped when the f150 EB FX4 sticker read 51k+!!
My 08 SLT Dmax was only 49 and out the door at 42 as I recall.
I will not be going newer anytime soon. :helmet:

Originally Posted by buck183 (Post 3840293)

My reply to cab space can be proven with actual numbers. Comfort is subjective and always will be.

Bumpers, they're all thin. You could almost dent all of them with your knuckle. GM's are covered with plastic on the front though. That should help in a collision.

The new F150s are pricey. Not gonna argue that. I never said they were cheap. Keep in mind you also have the first half ton truck that is ALMOST comparable to a 3/4 with it's capabilities. (don't read too much into my "almost" comment) The new F150s also have a LOT more options and packages available than GM is offering too.

As for the plastic.....let me know how that glass house is working out for you.

Again, been a hardcore GM man since the word go. Never thought I would own anything different. Doing what I do for a living I have the ability to step back and look at things as they really are now.

Disclaimer....none of my comments are in reference to any 3/4 ton or heavier truck.

Buck

Originally Posted by soldier4402 (Post 3840541)

well said. Although i understand what you said about the 3/4 ton addage, I think some need to stop reffering to my 3/4 ton diesel can do this or that, good for you, I had one and know what it can do. Whatever brand you choose the 1/2 ton is a very capable truck and if you look at numbers todays half tons are just as strong if not stronger then 3/4 ton trucks that were manufactured just over a decade ago.

But I like you have been a GM man and would prefer one in the garage, but due to my towing needs and the fact that money just cant be spent on blind loyalty, I know buy my trucks or all vehicles objectively. And when you compare the current chevy to the current ford, there is no comparison.

Originally Posted by ezstriper (Post 3841557)

well I have been looking at new trucks, ford & chevy..what gets me is when I speced out almost idenical trucks, crew cab, Z71vs FX4, nav, leather, heated cooled, max trailer tow, sunroof and 6.2's...hard to handle the ford is 5K more !!!!! you can build them online and see the price....unreal...things I like better on each...but the 5k ??? with 40k less warranty to boot ??