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Old 11-15-2013, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by halfgassed
Mild Thunder, I've gathered you like the vortec 454's. Are they pretty responsive? I tested out a 94 tbi 454 dually the other day and it was a pooch. The last tbi 454 Ihad had a stick behind it and it was ok, but the auto made it seem poochy. I've never had nor drivin a vortec 454.

I've been thinking about building my next tow rig out of a early 80's crew cab dually and I'm trying to figure drivetrain. But if I can avoid and engine/trans swap and straight axle a vortec truck like I did a previous tow rig I had....I'd be pretty happy.

TBI vs. Vortec (1995&earlier vs. 1996&later) GM engines are night and day difference when it comes to power. They are all pretty reliable, but the 350 and 454 with the Vortec heads and intakes were much, much stronger.

For safety, 1996 trucks only had driver side airbags. 1997 and later have both driver and passenger airbags.
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very nice truck but i at least need the club cab but would prefer a 4-door.
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03 Ram hemi 2500 4x4 85k miles new leather wheels tires etc. $14k come and get it I'm 2 hours north of you. 2172464411 Tyler

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FWIW I was happy with how the Ram pulled my 311. They have some steering issues that need dealt with but the powertrain is great....for a gas.
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Just an idea and I dont know how often you tow. but what about renting a truck to haul the boat on the weekeds. Just thinking if you rented a truck for 100 bucks a weekend, that 150 times worth at $15 grand of buying a vehicle, then you have insurance and upkeep etc.
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Originally Posted by bigredbaja
As much as i really want the F250 7.3 i found i think everyone has convinced me to go the gas route, i found a nice GMC 2500 w 6.0 thats in my price range the 8.1's seem to be really hard to find. Its rated at 10,000 lbs towing and i will never go bigger than a 32/35 so it should handle the job. now if i can just sell my F150!
Keep looking for an 8.1/allison. They are kind of hard to find. Use the 8100 and 8.1 as search keywords on autotrader. The 8.1's were in 2001 through 2007 Classic's and were DC'd after that. I had to drive about 5hrs get my current one.
BTW, My 32 AT on a steel trailer wieighs over 10k and probably closer to 11.5k full of fuel.
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I bought an 05 Dually 8.1 black LS 4x4. I love it despite it being thirsty. It rides great, and pulls the Top Gun with no problem. I have electric over Hydraulic brakes on the trailer also. I have the 16" Tires. Stock wheels.

Very stable, Allison Transmission Downshifts Great.

But as stated, had to drive 5 hours to find one. But it was worth it

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Mine was even a little more difficult to find because I wanted a Regular Standard Cab. Makes it very easy to maneuver the 40+ Trailer.
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Originally Posted by soldier4402
Just an idea and I dont know how often you tow. but what about renting a truck to haul the boat on the weekeds. Just thinking if you rented a truck for 100 bucks a weekend, that 150 times worth at $15 grand of buying a vehicle, then you have insurance and upkeep etc.
This outfit rents new Ford F-350 PSDs, and such trucks have factory brake controllers. I've never rented one, but the idea does have merit.

http://www.trianglerentacar.com/inde...ent-a-car.html

This joint used to rent brand new PSD F-250s at the FLL and MIA airports, but all they list now are F-150s.

http://www.royalrentacar.com/VehiclesForRent.aspx

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Originally Posted by halfgassed
Mild Thunder, I've gathered you like the vortec 454's. Are they pretty responsive? I tested out a 94 tbi 454 dually the other day and it was a pooch. The last tbi 454 Ihad had a stick behind it and it was ok, but the auto made it seem poochy. I've never had nor drivin a vortec 454.

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Stock exhaust was very restrictive back then,,,, headers and catback made a HUGE difference on my 1996
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I might be convinced to sell my 2006 Chevy 2500 Avalanche with 4:10 gears and 98K miles......as i'm trying to talk myself into a 2014 Ram 2500 Mega cab even though the Avalanche pulls my boat fine and I think would handle whatever I may wanna get in the future.
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