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Old 07-16-2014, 08:57 AM
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Urea is mostly water. I've never heard that it has a shelf life. I'm most concerned with the 13k you listed and tow rating of your truck. Aren't you over the limit especially after it's loaded?
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I was at the dealer last night and gave them my paperwork, just got off the phone with them and I now own a 2015 GMC 3500 Denali 6.6 4x4 dually long bed. They are adding the factory side step ups and DVD's to the head rests for the kids.


Now the the 2001 is officially on the market. Whats a good starting price? 1 million comes to mind (love this truck) but I am negotiable.
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Old 07-16-2014, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by CrownLPX
Urea is mostly water. I've never heard that it has a shelf life. I'm most concerned with the 13k you listed and tow rating of your truck. Aren't you over the limit especially after it's loaded?
Dealer told me urea has a 6 month shelf life. My trailers are 5th wheel and the 2001 has a 19,500 lb 5th wheel tow rate the new truck is rated at 22,600.
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Dealers are stealers! Congrats on the new truck!!!
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Old 07-16-2014, 09:28 AM
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WOW, at least you gave it a couple days to make a decision!

I would have said stay with the 8.1. $30K would have bought a crap load of gas. Considering your per 100 mile fuel cost would be

8.1: 100 miles at 7mpg = 14.2 x 3.50 or $49.7 fuel costs
6.6: 100 miles at 11mpg = 9.1 x 4.00 or $36.4 fuel costs
$0.135 per mile more fuel cost

If the new truck cost $30K more than your old one then you'll need to drive nearly 225,000 miles to "break even" with the fuel savings. Now, sometimes we just want a shiny/new truck........fuel cost just helps us justify what we want!
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WOW, at least you gave it a couple days to make a decision!

I would have said stay with the 8.1. $30K would have bought a crap load of gas. Considering your per 100 mile fuel cost would be

8.1: 100 miles at 7mpg = 14.2 x 3.50 or $49.7 fuel costs
6.6: 100 miles at 11mpg = 9.1 x 4.00 or $36.4 fuel costs
$0.135 per mile more fuel cost

If the new truck cost $30K more than your old one then you'll need to drive nearly 225,000 miles to "break even" with the fuel savings. Now, sometimes we just want a shiny/new truck........fuel cost just helps us justify what we want!

Plus fuel filters/more expensive oil changes on the diesel. I also suspect the gap between the old truck and new will be over 45K since he bought a Denali Crew cab. I would bet the breakeven point is closer to 300-350K miles
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Old 07-16-2014, 10:16 AM
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New truck should be my "last", thats what I said when I bought the 2001. First 2 years/24,000 miles GM pays for everything except fuel. Hate to say it but we play with big boats here, money has nothing to do with it.....its all about the bling, HP and TQ !!!!
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How much you thinking for your 01
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Old 07-16-2014, 11:05 AM
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Good choice Brian. I just bought a 15 3500 dually. Love the truck. Air conditioned seats is the best option ever invented!! Lol. Don't think you'll regret the duramax. Mine just did a 2500 mile road trip and everything went perfect. At 80 mph she was getting 16 mpg. Guys who drive slower have seen 20+. Empty of course. These are nice ass trucks and as soon as my warranty is out all the egr and urea deletes will be coming.
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If you make this purchase you will really like the new truck. The interior and amenities are great. It will also toy much better as GM has really improved the frames and suspension on these trucks. The biggest change will be the power, the torque on these new rigs is incrdible and they tow great.
Where I think your going to be let down is in the milage. They do pretty good empty, but when you put a load like that with all that wind resistance they go down hill very fast.. I have a 2011 duramax that I tow a 41' cyclone toyhauler with. I never see better than 8, even if I set the cruise on 78-80. If I pull faster, which it will do with ease, it will drop to 6-7 pretty quickly. I even put a chip and urea delete on it for a while whch picked it up to 9ish driving pretty fast. But it ended up getting exhaust residue all over that side of the trailer so it wasn't worth it to me. I know plenty of people with these trucks pulling trailers every weekend and all the ones I trust to tell the truth are getting about the this same mileage.
Not trying to be negative, as I love this truck and would never want to get rid of it. Just letting you know what to expect from someone who does it almost weekly.
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