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MILD THUNDER 08-09-2014 09:38 AM

Icdedppl I found you a new tow rig. Should pull the heavy cig like a champ, plus its a benz so you can go out for fancy dinners, weddings, and formal events when not towing. Think about the comfort! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3C4304HU6w

MILD THUNDER 08-09-2014 09:40 AM

Or this one! Think about the kids, they would love it! Just put some air bags on it and a tuner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iEVs4LuH48

drpete3 08-09-2014 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4168167)
I added a sensor that plugs into the SCT to read egt. Like you I didn't want gauges.

Drove the truck with the exhaust and intake on the stock tune,,,,,,, ok but much better with a tune.
And I should have said, I did upgrade the transmission before any of this.

I have a hard time spending four grand on a PTS transmission when my truck is worth about 12 grand. With that said I would have a much harder time spending 60 grand on a 2015

drpete3 08-09-2014 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4168172)
Or this one! Think about the kids, they would love it! Just put some air bags on it and a tuner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iEVs4LuH48

My best friend had this car when he was 16 while we were growing up with the diesel. His was gray

cheech 08-09-2014 01:34 PM

Meh, gas rigs are nostalgia and as someone once said "Nostalgia is one of the biggest blindfolds in life, next to a vagina."

MILD THUNDER 08-09-2014 06:50 PM


Our first sustained grade was the road north out of Baker, California, through the Dumont Dunes area with the air temperature at approximately 118 degrees F. It's approximately
a 5-percent hill and the Duramax pulled it at 55 mph @ 2,400 rpm, wide-open throttle, in fourth gear, while the 8.1 Vortec
did the hill at 60 mph @ 4,000 rpm in third gear with partial throttle application. Full throttle netted 65 mph @ 4,200 rpm
for the gas engine, but road curves instigated a slight moderation of speed.

Next came a serious 9-percent grade up Townes Pass headed west out of Death Valley via Stovepipe Wells. The air had cooled to about 102 degrees F as it was now 8:45 p.m. The
Duramax started up the hill at 54 mph @ 3,100 rpm in third gear, but sharp curves had us slow to 40 mph @ 2,400 rpm in
third gear. The Vortec gas engine maintained 40 mph @ 4,500 rpm in second gear, again, speed restricted by the curving roads.

In both truck examples, the transmission temperature gauges had climbed to approximately 240-250 degrees F during the steepest part of the hill, but both dropped back to 200 degrees
or lower once we'd topped the grade. Each gauge is positioned and calibrated such that following the general temperature
trend is easy during regular driving times, but trying to decipher
specific numbers can be difficult on a steep, winding mountain
road when the driver's full attention is called for elsewhere.

Our highest-elevation test came at Sherwin Summit near Bishop, California, which tops off at 7,000 feet elevation. The Duramax 6.6L truck and trailer climbed most of the hill at 55
mph @ 2,300 rpm in fourth gear, and crested it at 53 mph @ 2,200 rpm in fourth gear, and the Vortec 8.1L made it most of the way at 61 mph @ 4,000 rpm in third gear.

MILD THUNDER 08-09-2014 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by cheech (Post 4168233)
Meh, gas rigs are nostalgia and as someone once said "Nostalgia is one of the biggest blindfolds in life, next to a vagina."

Nostalgia is talking about a 1975 Ford 390 2 barrel in a F250 Highboy and how great it pulled out your evergreen bush with a ski rope back when you wore those high socks with the stripes, and had a six pack of Hamms afterwords.. Not so much an 8100 Vortec engine coupled to an allison transmisson.

Take away diesel trucks from the manufactures, the dealerships service departments would close up. The revenue lost from diesel repairs and parts sales keeps the heat on for them.

If only some of the kick azz diesels in the past decade were put through the same tests as they ran the 8100 Vortec thru, during development. You know, like 300 hours of wide open throttle for the marine engines, and 1000 hours of wide open throttle for the heavy duty truck versions. The 8.1 might be a thirsty turtle, but one thing its not gonna do, is kick you in the ball bag with a repair bill into the several thousands. Unless of course you drain the oil out and run it dry. While you do see them in light duty pickups, they were really used alot in motorhomes, medium duty work trucks, and obviously marine. Mercruiser, volvo penta, etc. I wouldnt hesitate for a minute to hold that thing floored for an hour straight if needed.

The only thing I am nostalgic about, is the money that was once in my bank, that got depleted by my 6.0L Ford repair bills. When the 6.0L came out 10 years ago, it was supposed to be the latest and greatest. Modern technology at its best. Blowing raw antifreeze out the tailpipe is pretty high tech stuff! 7.3 was a good engine. Good for waking the neighborhood up, or your wife when you roll in at 2am with a lipstick ring on your shaft. Those 7.3 owners swear that engine needs to be in the hall of fame..I see guys asking more for them 15 years later than they were brand new. They'll swear a 7.3 is good for a million miles before you need to do a quick inframe. 5.9 Cummins was a workhorse, just dont idle too long or you'll need your fillings replaced at the dentist. Love the cummins crowd who lets their 5.9 warm up for 2 hours while fine tuning their RF gain on their CB radio so they can chat with their fellow 5.9 owners to discuss their 30mpg fuel mileage. The 6.0L ford guys, swear they got a good one....The 6.5 Turbo guys, still cant find the bag of marbles rolling around under their valve covers, and have a huge dent in the floorboard behind the accelerator pedal. Always a good idea to run the air conditioner vent hose to the pmd pump. Duramax guys LLY LBZ LML LB7 LOL TTYL TTT .....one of those is the good one, cant remember for sure. The all american bad azz...calm down, its an isuzu under the hood. Ford 6.4, proven loser. Nobody cares about it. So much power in those older diesels, Im surprised nobody makes a "DE-PERFORMANCE" mode for their tuner. These guys spend more time watching their EGT gauges annually than they watch their children. They oughtta spend less time figuring out how to make their diesel stronger, and spend some time upgrading from the walmart 5k lb rated hitch ball theyre using to tow their 47,000 lb trailer with no brakes.

At least it seems like Ford has it figured out now with the 6.7, Chevy's new duramax seems great, and Dodge's cummins will keep you cummin back for more. More trips to the atm that is with sticker prices of 70g.

ICDEDPPL 08-09-2014 11:37 PM


40 mph @ 2,400 rpm in
third gear. The Vortec gas engine maintained 40 mph @ 4,500 rpm in second gear, again, speed restricted by the curving roads.
Screaming at almost 5K for the gasser to keep up with a 2,400rpm Diesel, sounds about right.

MILD THUNDER 08-10-2014 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4168427)
Screaming at almost 5K for the gasser to keep up with a 2,400rpm Diesel, sounds about right.

How do we explain the part where the 8.1 was able to maintain a higher top speed climbing the steepest grade then it's duramax brother when the test was completed? The diesel had more peak torque.

Crude Intentions 08-10-2014 12:55 AM

Joe what model duramax we talking? Having not read the whole article just curious. The other thing is how restricted these things are from the factory. Just deleting the junk and throwing a tow tune at it really wakes them up with not much in the reliability. I know a few people who do literally have 300k plus problem free miles on their duramax and I'm not talking Internet forums. I know when something does break it will be more costly. I didn't buy the duramax to "save" money. Lol. I bought it purely cause I wanted a dually and the new interiors are bad ass. Lol. Plus I know some people who strictly use the dmax in service truck fleets with little to no problems.

When I was a kid dad had a 1979 ford f250 explorer. Some may know explorer was a truck model before a tiny SUV. Lol. It had a 460 with a 3 spd automatic. That truck was unreal. Could pull a house and would roast the tires.


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