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Old 12-12-2018, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by GRH
They did that about a year ago at a local Mall.... friend of mine has a Tesla.....nice car.... he plugged it in at the mall.... came out 1/2 hour later & someone had unplugged it for him.....lol....
That's funny!
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Originally Posted by Wobble
Its hard to believe that any company that has not relentlessly pursued profits is going to be around long. Pretty sure it has always been that way. GM beat Ford to the punch with their restructuring, Ford's is coming up and likely will be at least as ugly.
You may be right. If Ford has any sense, they will not mirror GM's ruthless attitude.
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Originally Posted by sprsptr
You may be right. If Ford has any sense, they will not mirror GM's ruthless attitude.
I think that is more down to how the press and politicians portray it. Ford has stated that they will be looking for 11 Billion in cuts, analysts think that will mean 25,000 lost jobs.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fo...ays-2018-12-03
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Originally Posted by Wobble
I think that is more down to how the press and politicians portray it. Ford has stated that they will be looking for 11 Billion in cuts, analysts think that will mean 25,000 lost jobs.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fo...ays-2018-12-03
Wow, that sucks!
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Originally Posted by phragle
got a pik yesterday...this is Toledo...not the west coast or the northeast green territories... but the good old rust belt...

Serious question here? Who pays for the electric supplied by charging station? You swipe a CC or what?
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Originally Posted by sonicss42

Serious question here? Who pays for the electric supplied by charging station? You swipe a CC or what?
Tesla charges the fees direct to owners account after you have used your free allowance. Don't know about the other brands.
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Originally Posted by IGetWet
trains and ships have little to do with battery power unlike these cars. Yes they use electric motors but those giant diesel generators are powering those motors not batteries.
Granted, batteries don't play much role in ships and trains, but electricity does. They just carry around their own electric power generating plant instead of depending upon the electric company. Actually, the more I think about it, the more I suspect a diesel/electric F350 could work very well for all but the heaviest users. Most of us only use a fraction of our engines most of the time, and a smaller diesel engine could charge batteries and power electric motors, and help power the truck. F350s are some of the best platforms to haul around lots of batteries. This might not work well for hot shot haulers and other heavy users, but might work well for us daily drivers of our one tons who sometimes ask them to work like a truck.
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When hybreds first came out I assumed they were like trains. Seemed to be the best engineering solution but guess not.

Isnt that pretty much what a bolt is with some battery power as well? It’s always electric driving the wheels.
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Originally Posted by Chart
Granted, batteries don't play much role in ships and trains, but electricity does. They just carry around their own electric power generating plant instead of depending upon the electric company. Actually, the more I think about it, the more I suspect a diesel/electric F350 could work very well for all but the heaviest users. Most of us only use a fraction of our engines most of the time, and a smaller diesel engine could charge batteries and power electric motors, and help power the truck. F350s are some of the best platforms to haul around lots of batteries. This might not work well for hot shot haulers and other heavy users, but might work well for us daily drivers of our one tons who sometimes ask them to work like a truck.
The point of electric vehicles is to get away for gasoline and being oil dependent as well as reduce emissions. Trains and ships use electric motors for the torque, not to be fuel efficient. If we still have a diesel that requires fuel as well as DEF what’s the point with the batteries? Diesels nowadays can move more than the frame, drivetrain of the truck and brakes can handle anyways.
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Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix
When hybreds first came out I assumed they were like trains. Seemed to be the best engineering solution but guess not.

Isnt that pretty much what a bolt is with some battery power as well? It’s always electric driving the wheels.
The volts are like that, actual elec drive but gas gen if battery gets low, friend has had 2 loved them both and used to show me how little gas he ever uses(could bring up all that data thru a app on his phone. See Ford following suit as they are slashing cars out of the lineup, chysler has been quietly removing cars from its lineup as well...
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