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Re: Changes needed
PLEASE undo the caps button. I am not sure if you know but It's hard to read in all caps plus on the internet it is rude and considered shouting/yelling. Thanks!
3 Important Points: 1-VelocityGM, I believe the 1st and formost thing Velocity needs to do is build the boats stronger. Too many in the past years have had failure and or serious cracks. Velocity has a reputation among boaters as a thin light lay up and in boating circles they are considered "potato chips". Velocity needs to dispell these thoughts among performance boaters. 2-Also showing video's at the Miami Boat show of any and all step hull boats spinning out is a cheap tactic to sell boats. these video's showing the competing boat manufacture boats spinning on the race course portray's a cheap shot image of Velocity. Velocity's spin out on the race course too...all boats even old school straight V's from the 70-80's spin out. Just read John Crouses Sea Race book to learn about the attrition of many race boats in the 70's-80's...all straight V's and a lot spun out. 3- The last few boat tests I've seen of Velocity's show a wood grain dash. To me and my friends that view these boats feel that these wood grain dash Velocity's look more like a bow rider Cobalt-Chapperal, Ebbtide, Searay or something that belongs in my grandfathers Cadillac than in a high performance boat with a racing heritage. |
Re: Changes needed
Originally Posted by FeverMike
PLEASE undo the caps button. I am not sure if you know but It's hard to read in all caps plus on the internet it is rude and considered shouting/yelling. Thanks!
agreed 3 Important Points: 1-VelocityGM, I believe the 1st and formost thing Velocity needs to do is build the boats stronger. Too many in the past years have had failure and or serious cracks. Velocity has a reputation among boaters as a thin light lay up and in boating circles they are considered "potato chips". Velocity needs to dispell these thoughts among performance boaters. 2-Also showing video's at the Miami Boat show of any and all step hull boats spinning out is a cheap tactic to sell boats. these video's showing the competing boat manufacture boats spinning on the race course portray's a cheap shot image of Velocity. Velocity's spin out on the race course too...all boats even old school straight V's from the 70-80's spin out. Just read John Crouses Sea Race book to learn about the attrition of many race boats in the 70's-80's...all straight V's and a lot spun out. 3- The last few boat tests I've seen of Velocity's show a wood grain dash. To me and my friends that view these boats feel that these wood grain dash Velocity's look more like a bow rider Cobalt-Chapperal, Ebbtide, Searay or something that belongs in my grandfathers Cadillac than in a high performance boat with a racing heritage. |
Re: Changes needed
Originally Posted by FeverMike
PLEASE undo the caps button. I am not sure if you know but It's hard to read in all caps plus on the internet it is rude and considered shouting/yelling. Thanks!
3 Important Points: 1-VelocityGM, I believe the 1st and formost thing Velocity needs to do is build the boats stronger. Too many in the past years have had failure and or serious cracks. Velocity has a reputation among boaters as a thin light lay up and in boating circles they are considered "potato chips". Velocity needs to dispell these thoughts among performance boaters. 2-Also showing video's at the Miami Boat show of any and all step hull boats spinning out is a cheap tactic to sell boats. these video's showing the competing boat manufacture boats spinning on the race course portray's a cheap shot image of Velocity. Velocity's spin out on the race course too...all boats even old school straight V's from the 70-80's spin out. Just read John Crouses Sea Race book to learn about the attrition of many race boats in the 70's-80's...all straight V's and a lot spun out. 3- The last few boat tests I've seen of Velocity's show a wood grain dash. To me and my friends that view these boats feel that these wood grain dash Velocity's look more like a bow rider Cobalt-Chapperal, Ebbtide, Searay or something that belongs in my grandfathers Cadillac than in a high performance boat with a racing heritage. 1-I have ran 280 in 4,5 seas jumped a number of wakes,and my 2000 is holding up just fine. 2-I guess you don't count MAKING A VEDIO OF A FULL OUT RACE BOAT AT A POKER RUN AND CALLING IT CAT KILLER!!! Everyone does what they can to sell there product the way they think the market well respond in a possitive way for there company. 3-I personally like the idea of concept boats just because Steve put a wood dash on one boat everyone goes nuts??? That boat was using some of the same products as the coach company uses on ther buses so it does makes sence. |
Re: Changes needed
Originally Posted by FeverMike
PLEASE undo the caps button. I am not sure if you know but It's hard to read in all caps plus on the internet it is rude and considered shouting/yelling. Thanks!
3 Important Points: 1-VelocityGM, I believe the 1st and formost thing Velocity needs to do is build the boats stronger. Too many in the past years have had failure and or serious cracks. Velocity has a reputation among boaters as a thin light lay up and in boating circles they are considered "potato chips". Velocity needs to dispell these thoughts among performance boaters. 2-Also showing video's at the Miami Boat show of any and all step hull boats spinning out is a cheap tactic to sell boats. these video's showing the competing boat manufacture boats spinning on the race course portray's a cheap shot image of Velocity. Velocity's spin out on the race course too...all boats even old school straight V's from the 70-80's spin out. Just read John Crouses Sea Race book to learn about the attrition of many race boats in the 70's-80's...all straight V's and a lot spun out. 3- The last few boat tests I've seen of Velocity's show a wood grain dash. To me and my friends that view these boats feel that these wood grain dash Velocity's look more like a bow rider Cobalt-Chapperal, Ebbtide, Searay or something that belongs in my grandfathers Cadillac than in a high performance boat with a racing heritage. 2) The days of sucessfull negative advertising, I believe, are gone. I do not see others within the industry doing this. Some may be somewhat flamboyant in their add approach, but not openly negative. Some of the same negative information appears, I believe, on the Velocity website. Anything can and will happen on a race course, my opinion of a boats handling qualities are based on the real world, in a normal recreational use. I do not feel compeled to pull off a tight bonzi turn around a channel marker at 80 mph, nor do I consider myself stupid enough to do that regardless of what hull design I might be in. That would not have been any more prudent a move in my 32 Velocity than it would be in my current 35 Fountain. I agree that the Cat Killer deal is a little out there, but is a 40' Skater, MTI or Nortech with 1500 hp Sterlings a normal pleasure boat ? 3) The wood grain dash and motor coach style interior does not do anything for me, and I doubt many 70 year old coach owners are beating down the plant doors to sign up for one. One off "show" boats have their place, but use them to showcase what "you" do everyday, what the buyer can expect. Maybe a 41 with Merc 1075's for this years mag reviews would be a good thing, known horsepower and see what it will do. Off brand power always leaves the question in a readers mind as to what the horsepower really was. Right or wrong, Merc is the benchmark by which others are judged. Perhaps a little background info on yourself would be appropriate, inquiring minds would like to know. |
Re: Changes needed
Originally Posted by mikes280
1. yep one boat and you will never let it go .ow about the fountain at key west last year and i can name more 2. don't thank they have done that in three years 3. you saw it in one boat Steves 41
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Re: Changes needed
Originally Posted by VelocityGM
AS FOR RAGGED, HE CONTACTED ME IN A PRIVATE EMAIL OFFERING TO REMOVE HIS POST AND I TOLD HIM THAT IT WAS NOT NECESSARY AND THAT I WANTED TO HEAR IT ALL.
As was the case, my intention was to provide some personal insight, and not to bash the line, and therefore the modification to the original post. My choice, not GM's. |
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This is a step in the right direction. Looked awesome!
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Re: Changes needed
Just a thought here. What about making a minimalist 360. The prices for 35+ foot boats is getting more astronomical every year. 496HO's, hydraulic steering, and thats about it. Basic paint, basic cabin amenities, basic everything. Price it under the competition and advertise it that way. Also, advertise it with true cost to the buyer. No haggle pricing has worked well for some car companies. It wouldn't hurt to test it on one model in the lineup. You just have to be fair about it and not look to make a killing off of the price.
I think by advertising this price in the mags and boat shows, you will get a lot of interest from people who in the past might not have even considered velocity as they walked straight for fountain or formula or other larger operations. The markups are huge on boats and I think it drives away a lot of potential new to the sport buyers. |
Re: Changes needed
That blue 36 is a cool boat. That long padded sun pas is too much though. Make it fiberglass and carry the graphics on it. Another thing I dont like is how the cabin doors are. Make it a sliding, or better yet just have it a zipper door like Outerlimits does.
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Re: Changes needed
Originally Posted by fountain40icbm
That blue 36 is a cool boat. That long padded sun pas is too much though. Make it fiberglass and carry the graphics on it. Another thing I dont like is how the cabin doors are. Make it a sliding, or better yet just have it a zipper door like Outerlimits does.
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