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Jcurtis2932 05-07-2018 08:38 AM

260 pulls right
 
Just bought a 2002 260 with 240 hrs on her she has a 496 with bravo 1 outdrive just wondering if anyone has an issue with the boat turning hard right when you trim the out drive up at speed or when you are coming off plane

ziemer 05-07-2018 03:30 PM

Check the steering. Does it have external hydraulic? With the boat on the trailer, can you physically move the drive side to side? Could be a worn gimbal ring, or air in the hydraulic lines.

Jcurtis2932 05-07-2018 03:47 PM

No there is no external hydro steering and yes with the boat on the trailer you can move the outdrive side to side but only to the right side

AllDodge 05-07-2018 03:47 PM

Power steering fluid full?
Any bubbles when its running?

Jcurtis2932 05-07-2018 04:17 PM

I have not check the power steering fluid yet but do you think that would cause the out drive to move 4-8 inches to the right while on the trailer

AllDodge 05-07-2018 04:35 PM

If there is next to no fluid in the lines, then there is no fluid to keep the steering solid. Air in the system makes things squishy, and things can move easier

Jcurtis2932 05-07-2018 06:37 PM

What I was finding was running about 35-40 I would start to bring the drive up and all on a sudden the boat would make a hard right turn this also happened when I was coming off plane the boat made a hard right turn. Is there such thing as to much trim at that speed ?

underpsi68 05-07-2018 06:40 PM

Mine would do when i was slowing down from speed (pull hard to the right) with cable steering. Put hydraulc string on and problem solved.

Jcurtis2932 05-07-2018 06:46 PM

Thanks for the good feed back this is my first performance boat so all of this is something new for me I do all of my boating on the upper Chesapeake bay again thanks for all the help

Tinkerer 05-07-2018 08:27 PM

With external hydraulic steering you should NOT be able to move the drive side to side at all.
With cable type steering there will be some play side to side but not more than an inch.
You have a serious problem - DON"T drive the boat until you get it fixed.

GLENAMY 242SS 05-07-2018 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by Jcurtis2932 (Post 4625274)
I have not check the power steering fluid yet but do you think that would cause the out drive to move 4-8 inches to the right while on the trailer


Originally Posted by Jcurtis2932 (Post 4625288)
What I was finding was running about 35-40 I would start to bring the drive up and all on a sudden the boat would make a hard right turn this also happened when I was coming off plane the boat made a hard right turn. Is there such thing as to much trim at that speed ?

You don't seriously think this is OK do you? As Tinkerer said You have a SERIOUS problem if your boat does this!

Jcurtis2932 05-08-2018 03:54 AM

No I definitely agree that there is an issue just trying to narrow the problem down

Padraig 05-08-2018 05:48 AM

J Curtis, A Velocity is a great boat and usually a safe boat. However you have a potentially dangerous problem. Bad things, in a performance boat, can happen very quickly.
You need a good marina to take a look at it and advise you One that is familiar with performance boats would be best.

Where about are you located? Hopefully some can direct you to a knowledgeable trusted shop.

Welcome to the Velocity family.

Padraig

GLENAMY 242SS 05-08-2018 07:54 AM

"I do all of my boating on the upper Chesapeake bay "

There is a performance shop in that area, I cannot remember the name but the owner is Dave. Nice guy to deal with. Maybe somebody can help you out with the name of his shop.
Good Luck

Jcurtis2932 05-09-2018 05:57 PM

many people have said it sounds like the gimble ring if it turns out to be that I think I will just throw a whole new transom assembly on any put one on and how involved way it?

AllDodge 05-09-2018 06:05 PM

The hard part is removing and installing the motor due to weight. Other then that its fairly easy. Remove inner plate, outer assembly, clean outer, install in reverse. Torque nuts to 23 ft lbs

Jcurtis2932 05-09-2018 06:08 PM

I do plan I doing it my self but anyone have any idea a ball park price if a marine mechanic did it for me?

snapmorgan 05-09-2018 06:37 PM

4-5K for parts and labor to replace a transom assy

Powerquest230 05-09-2018 07:24 PM

If the budget allows it would be a good time to add external hydraulic steering. Boat will handle better and it will tighten up the steering at speed. Will make a big difference when you start adding more power.

Jcurtis2932 05-09-2018 07:28 PM

Yes external hydro steering is definitely coming in the near of future do u think one ram would do on a 260 with a stock 496 ?

CJSYD 05-09-2018 07:40 PM

Yes... have a single ram and 496 HO on my 290. Works great!

underpsi68 05-09-2018 09:28 PM

Single ram on my 280 as well. Contact Kenny at lets talk boats. Got my Zeiger kit from him. He worked at velocity and knows these boats inside and out plus is a pleasure to work with.

Look into JR Marine. They have a kit to replace the swivel pin and ring with the engine in the boat. Very easy to do.

BUP 05-10-2018 10:27 AM

before you take anything apart seperate your sections of steering for testing, If you have 4 to 8 inches of play side to side testing with your hand ----- it would be very easy to see worn gimble ring swival shaft wear thru that area. Very simple to test that with out taking anything apart. IMO you might have a combo of issues and the main issue is the steering actuator and steering cable

There should not be any play period trying to move the drive from side to side with your hand NOT even one inch

BUP 05-10-2018 10:27 PM

and the new transom assemblies and or gimbal rings come with a 7/16 -20 U BOLT / NUT and those nuts tq settings are 50 ft lbs.

this took place since 2007 thru currently. The newer U bolt / Nut 7/16 will not back fit the older gimbal rings.


The older ones are 3/8 - 24 -- tq at 53 ft lbs. FYI.

If I did any ocean running I would buy the merc seacore transom assemblies.

Revelocity 05-13-2018 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4625790)
before you take anything apart seperate your sections of steering for testing, If you have 4 to 8 inches of play side to side testing with your hand ----- it would be very easy to see worn gimble ring swival shaft wear thru that area. Very simple to test that with out taking anything apart. IMO you might have a combo of issues and the main issue is the steering actuator and steering cable

There should not be any play period trying to move the drive from side to side with your hand NOT even one inch

After checking out the steering mechanism, also take a look at the gimbel bearing. I sea trialed/purchased a 22 Velocity that had a bad gimbel bearing that would also swerve when coming off of plane. The bad bearing made things worse for the cable stering set up - the "combo" as BUP mentioned.

Jcurtis2932 05-14-2018 03:24 PM

So this past weekend i ran the boat and still hard pull to the right when coming off plan or letting off the throttles. Now i am able to push the out drive to the left a good 8" from center but will not budge to the right when trying to push it by hand. Had someone move the out drive by hand and was able to look at the steering system and nothing was moving. I am guessing she needs a gimbal ring.

Powerquest230 05-14-2018 08:04 PM

8” of slop and you are still running the boat?? You nuts or what?

BUP 05-14-2018 09:12 PM

Since most likely you are wanting to get after it for boating. I do not know your location but really have to say this is a prime example were your boat should be in at professional marine service shop looked at and properly fixed.

For one, you have a train wreck waiting to happen, Secondly for yourself, kids and wife whom I hope are not on your boat period plus the possible case of you running into some other boats causing injury to others. I am not being hard on you here but hopefully sooner than later wanting you to get your boat completely fixed of all issues that are hazardous and hazardous to others..

If you are in the North Texas or somewhat close, I would be willing to look at this one hour for free, I am sure, I would have this all figured out within that hour. If not good luck with it.


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