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zeke 04-05-2013 03:28 PM

cutting edge???
 
well snowmobile season is about over in the north here so its time to start thinking about boats.
I was gonna ship my CE to greg and looked up the address noticed its not his name anymore did he sell the business?

I was also going to ship my bravo to BBlades to be fixed and played with.
Does anyone know if he will repair and work on the CE props?

bbladesprops 04-05-2013 04:06 PM

zeke,

In the past we had chosen not to work on CE propellers for various reasons. None of which were technically related.

However, since the recent changes have occurred, we are considering helping the CE customers who didn't obtain the performance they were hoping to receive.

PM or call us and we can discuss your needs and the options you have.

Brett

ozarkdevil 04-05-2013 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by zeke (Post 3899624)
well snowmobile season is about over in the north here so its time to start thinking about boats.
I was gonna ship my CE to greg and looked up the address noticed its not his name anymore did he sell the business?

I was also going to ship my bravo to BBlades to be fixed and played with.
Does anyone know if he will repair and work on the CE props?

Nothing has changed at Cutting Edge Propellers except Greg has moved on to other business ventures.
Augustin Alarcon is the new solo owner and has always been there. He is now working both sides of the counter.
I have 3 bravo 32's to send in real soon. I have no personal experience with them but have heard nothing but good and their prices are reasonable.

bonesmalon 04-05-2013 08:12 PM

Received my B1's from CE and although it was a little bumpy as they were due back to me as the CE transition was happening but they came back looking sick...waiting for ice to clear inthe river now

ozarkdevil 04-05-2013 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by bonesmalon (Post 3899789)
Received my B1's from CE and although it was a little bumpy as they were due back to me as the CE transition was happening but they came back looking sick...waiting for ice to clear inthe river now

"Bumpy" meaning time frame or the actual work on the props?

bonesmalon 04-05-2013 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by ozarkdevil (Post 3899821)
"Bumpy" meaning time frame or the actual work on the props?

No quality of work was excellent it was communication Primarily with Greg as he was difficult to get ahold of after I had shipped the props there Augie was fine and once he was fully in the picture everything went fine.

ccrder1 04-09-2013 04:32 PM

I recently purchased a prop from Cutting Edge... Yes, Greg is no longer with them but Augustin and i believe his son Eulises are the guys to talk to. Great customer service, great prices, and awsome product.

TDSTYG 04-18-2013 10:16 PM

Just got mine back also. Great people to deal with. Faster on my last boat than bblades for sure.

the deep 04-19-2013 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by TDSTYG (Post 3908567)
Just got mine back also. Great people to deal with. Faster on my last boat than bblades for sure.

And at a better price.....:bunnydance:

Griff 04-20-2013 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by the deep (Post 3909271)
And at a better price.....:bunnydance:

Maybe thats because CE doesn't take the time to answer all kinds of prop questions on OSO for FREE or Support OSO through advertisng.

the deep 04-20-2013 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 3909291)
Maybe thats because CE doesn't take the time to answer all kinds of prop questions on OSO for FREE or Support OSO through advertisng.

Yes you are correct about that . I guess the cuts and digs coming from the other camp are not warranted and irritate me . Cutting Edge , if you are reading this how about joining and supporting OSO . How's that Griff ?

abones 04-20-2013 01:19 PM

IMO (Not picking on anyone or any company) When picking props and Prop companies it is a crap shoot a black art! all boats react differently to the same prop no two boats are the same. So the only real difference boils down to the willingness to work closely and as long as it takes to make your boat run as you want it to. Best of luck to all! I have been very happy over the years with my supplier.

racinjason65 04-22-2013 11:26 AM

I'm going by Cutting Edge today to pick up another prop for Desert Storm. I've been extreamly happy with both the customer service and the product I've received at Cutting Edge. I've also had BBlades do a prop for me and I was happy with it too, but CE being 10 min from my house and being able to pick up and drop off props makes life a whole lot easier. I wouldn't hesitate to continue to do business with either.

29Fever01 04-23-2013 11:15 AM

I just ordered a 27 pitch labbed 4 blade yesterday. I was told 1-2 weeks for it to arrive at my door. So far their customer service has been good. They have answered the phone everytime I've called there. I know some guys were complaining it was hard to get ahold of anybody previously. I was happy with the all around performance I had before of my stock 26 bravo1, but I wanted to try something new and for the price, I don't think you can buy anything new labbed for that price anywhere else. What the heck, I was willing to try something new, so if the performance of the new cutting edge prop is similar to what I had before, I'm happy. Of coarse everyone is looking for that perfect setup and to possibly gain, but looking at my gps speeds with rpm and slip of my boat, your only going to get some much with a single stock 500efi. Alot of people on this sight have been very pleased with their products, so I was willing to give them a try.

abones 04-23-2013 08:13 PM

29fever approx how much $$$$ or a labbed 4 blade?

29Fever01 04-24-2013 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by abones (Post 3911695)
29fever approx how much $$$$ or a labbed 4 blade?

$650, plus tax and shipping. Like I said, for the price, why not

abones 04-24-2013 10:11 PM

Thanks for the info, that is a good price provided they perform as intended. let us know.

bbladesprops 04-24-2013 11:00 PM

Slight input if I may.

Lab Finishing should be done specific to the boat and its personality.
Every identical boat is different.

Brett

bad judgment 05-04-2013 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 3909291)
Maybe thats because CE doesn't take the time to answer all kinds of prop questions on OSO for FREE or Support OSO through advertisng.

X2 I'm not saying anything bad about CE; simply because I haven't dealt with them. However My close friend "against my recommendation" purchased a prop that they said would best suit his boat... Yea not so much! bounced off rev limiter at 10mph slower than previous WOT speed. When he contacted them to say it was way wrong he was told for another $375.00 they would change it. His reply was guess I should have call Bblades like my buddy said.

29Fever01 05-18-2013 08:54 PM

Ok guys, I was asked to post my testing numbers on here so here I go. Today the weather was great and conditions were ideal to get some good numbers. I ran my boat with probably 4/5 to 3/4 tank of fuel which is 130 gallons full, and just me in the boat. Also remember im running on the st lawrence river so the current does affect numbers. I started with the bravo1 26 pitch first. Against current at cruise I ran at 3600 rpm with a top speed of 43.2 mph, and the drive trimmed at 2. With current I ran at 3600 rpm, with a speed of 46.1, drive same place. At wide open I ran at 5350 rpm, with me toying with the drive between 4.5- 5 with a top speed of 75.1mph. Next I put the boat on the trailer, switched to the cutting edge and ran the same exact tract and distance in the same locations. I ran against current, at cruise, 3600rpm I had a speed of 44.3 and drive also at 2. Then With current it ran 48mph even with the same rpm and drive trim. At wot it ran 74.8 at 5400rpm. So with those findings, both props are very comparable. At wide open throttle, the bravo1 ran at a slip of 14%. The cutting edge prop ran at 19%. With that said, I'm going to give them A call on Monday, and see if there is a mod to be done that might bring that slip number down a little which might transfer to a possible gain. All in all, I'm happy with their customer service, they have been great about calling me back within a few hours, I received the prop within a couple days when I should have. I'd like to see my rpm back down to 5200-5300 out of either prop. Because of conditions, with water and air being relatively cold, I will run a 100 rpm higher now compared to the heart of summer, but I know 5400rpm is a little past power band. Opinions? Thoughts? What do you guys think?

Griff 05-19-2013 01:22 AM

Looking at your numbers, all you gained is 2mph at cruise speed and increased slip at WOT.
My thought is that for $650 it should be better.

offshoredrillin 05-19-2013 06:59 AM

Looks like your on the right track, slight tweaking will prob get you where you need to be.

bonesmalon 05-19-2013 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by 29Fever01 (Post 3928076)
Ok guys, I was asked to post my testing numbers on here so here I go. Today the weather was great and conditions were ideal to get some good numbers. I ran my boat with probably 4/5 to 3/4 tank of fuel which is 130 gallons full, and just me in the boat. Also remember im running on the st lawrence river so the current does affect numbers. I started with the bravo1 26 pitch first. Against current at cruise I ran at 3600 rpm with a top speed of 43.2 mph, and the drive trimmed at 2. With current I ran at 3600 rpm, with a speed of 46.1, drive same place. At wide open I ran at 5350 rpm, with me toying with the drive between 4.5- 5 with a top speed of 75.1mph. Next I put the boat on the trailer, switched to the cutting edge and ran the same exact tract and distance in the same locations. I ran against current, at cruise, 3600rpm I had a speed of 44.3 and drive also at 2. Then With current it ran 48mph even with the same rpm and drive trim. At wot it ran 74.8 at 5400rpm. So with those findings, both props are very comparable. At wide open throttle, the bravo1 ran at a slip of 14%. The cutting edge prop ran at 19%. With that said, I'm going to give them A call on Monday, and see if there is a mod to be done that might bring that slip number down a little which might transfer to a possible gain. All in all, I'm happy with their customer service, they have been great about calling me back within a few hours, I received the prop within a couple days when I should have. I'd like to see my rpm back down to 5200-5300 out of either prop. Because of conditions, with water and air being relatively cold, I will run a 100 rpm higher now compared to the heart of summer, but I know 5400rpm is a little past power band. Opinions? Thoughts? What do you guys think?

Looks like we have a clear winner!......always go down river :lolhit:

offshoredrillin 06-04-2013 07:06 AM

Got my 26 p props done from cutting edge, and I am impressed. The whole process was less than 2 weeks from md to california. Both auggie and uleyses were great to work with.

ozarkdevil 06-04-2013 04:43 PM

I sent 3X32" B1 to cutting edge to freshen up & tweak a little. I got them back today just in time to head to LOTO tomorrow.15 days turn around with holiday. They look nice, quick turn around time & great prices but the real test will come this weekend. I will post results.

tylogan11 06-12-2013 10:19 AM

I highly reccomend Auggie at Cutting edge I have had great success with them!!!

29Fever01 06-12-2013 11:53 AM

I got my prop back last week so I was able to run it briefly on Sunday. With me, the g/f in the boat and a full tank of fuel, I ran 73 mph exactly, at 5200-5250 rpm which is where is like to be rpm wise. Calculated out, it still puts me at 19% slip. There was a strong sidewind with a little I'm my face also, so we will see this weekend with hopefully a little better conditions.

kpgrainger 07-09-2013 08:36 AM

I've been talking with Brett of Bblades for the last 6 months about my Baja Islander 208, 454, bravo1, running a Mirage 23p. I emailed them on July 2nd or 3rd, and didn't hear back, so I called yesterday July 8th. Hey ya gotta cut him some slack it was a holiday weekend. I talked with Brett back in March and had decided to send him my Mirage 23p as it had a little damage from wear and tear. I remember him telling me $300 or $350, to repair and lab, when I called yesterday to confirm and check what the turn around time would be. Kayla quoted me $389 plus the repair work, or something close to that. I then talked with Brett ( I called him "Brad") We agreed to disagree, as he says he never would have quoted that low, his price has always been $389. When I talked with Kayla she said I must have talked to him in January or February as their prices were lower in the slow time of the year. I told Brett I very disappointed he spends alot of time on these forums and in advertising, and that I don't do business with people who change pricing like this. Cutting Edge Propellers and Auggie are fixing and labbing my prop for $175. Brett's comment was "ya get what ya pay for" I've been getting 62 to 64 GPS mph at 4200 to 4400 rpm, we will see. I don't want to put words in anyones mouth, but this is the way I remember it. I'm sure Brett would say his price was to same the whole time. All this being said I will post how the Cutting Edge Prop does and yes I will go to back to Brett if I'm not happy with the performance. I'm not questioning the quality of Brett's work.

bbladesprops 07-09-2013 11:18 AM

Hello Kurt,
First I would like to say I'm sorry for the confusion you have experienced. Our Bravo 1 Lab Finishing price has been $392 since January 1st 2013. Each year we have a winter special in Jan and Feb. where the cost is reduced to $320. Other than that, the pricing never waivers on Lab Finishing. Repairs of course are different as they must be quoted on a individual basis.

You may have spoken to me (Brett) in March. At that time I may have mentioned the winter special but would have made it clear the price then (March) was $392.

You are mistaken as to who you spoke to yesterday. You did not speak to me. You spoke to Kaila first who quoted $392 plus extra if there was any major damage. You then spoke to Brad. Brad quoted you the same pricing of $392 and that all minor repairs come along with that pricing. Brad informed me of the conversation immediately following the conversation. Brad came to me because he was concerned you had hung up on him after stating you disappointment with the pricing and our business and that you could get this done elsewhere cheaper. Brad was trying to explain the pricing has been the same for months.
These pricing numbers we quote are used daily so it is difficult to believe we would come up with numbers you believe are in the $300-$350, or the $389 you seem to remember.

Yes Kurt, I will say BBLADES pricing has been the same all year because it has been. No disrespect intended but, you can see in your own post above, you don't even have the quote you received yesterday correct. Nobody ever said $389


Yes I do spend a lot of time on this forum. I have been offering free advice here for 8 years as BBLADES owner and occasionally as a representative for Mercury Racing for some time prior to that.. Sometimes I get praise for offering input and most of the times I do not. I certainly hope that people who visit this forum will consider us for their prop work but whether they do or not, I still come here to help the performance boating public.
Because I run a well respected business who I believe is in a special class of craftsmen, I don't make up pricing day to day nor do the people who work for me.
I hope your propping experience works well.

Brett

PRIMECUT 07-09-2013 11:59 AM

I have had many dealings with Auggie at Cutting edge & I have had great success with them ,they will get on the phone and also return calls ,great to work with and no addtl price changes

kpgrainger 07-17-2013 04:34 PM

I get my prop back on Friday, it will be a 10 day turn around, 9 of those days were shipping. Auggie turned it around in the same day received it and shipped it out. I'll be installing the prop Friday night and using it all weekend. I will let eveybody know how it works. $30 shpping out and $30shipping it back total cost including shipping $210. So they quoted $175 but only charged $150. I know the numbers just as I did back in the spring I wrote them down. When Brett's staff quoted me a new higher price, I was pissed and didn't write it down as I had no intentions of paying it. Prehaps it was all a misscommunication, as Bblades has a great reputation. Eitherway This thread isn't about Bblades, it is about Cutting Edge, They provided services at a very resonable price and will post the GPS results and RPM increase due to Cutting Edge's work. Look for a post from me on Monday

kpgrainger 07-22-2013 12:07 PM

cutting edge lab'd prop
 
ok I got the prop I'm now spinning 200 rpm faster and going a soild 65-66 mph with 2 people and 3/4 tank of fuel.

articfriends 07-22-2013 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by kpgrainger (Post 3962725)
ok I got the prop I'm now spinning 200 rpm faster and going a soild 65-66 mph with 2 people and 3/4 tank of fuel.

so you picked up 2-3 solid mph along with a 200 rpm increase, nice! I sent CUTTING EDGE a 30 pitch merc labbed that ran 92-93 most of the time, 94 a couple times and saw 95-96 afterwards at about the same rpm, was real happy with there work!! Greg was a nice guy to deal with, sorry he is gone but if he was just the salesman and pitch guy and you can still have the same guy do the work then it sounds like a good deal, Smitty

kpgrainger 07-28-2013 07:43 PM

I'm really exicited to see what speed I'm gonna get, with the exhaust open, I had it closed cause of a noise ordinance, plus getting the fuel down to 1/2. I'm hoping for 66 to 68? Will see

kpgrainger 12-05-2013 08:39 PM

I did see 68 mph at 1/2 to 1/4 tank and 2 people. I also saw 66 with 6 people and 1/2 fuel. Boat airs out nice and I love the prop. I'm planning to buy another prop from them and and have them try for alittle more may 1 mph? I'm very happy with them and they have a customer for life.

Cutting Edge, they under promise and over deliver


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