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NautiSouth 07-31-2017 08:56 PM

Scarab 377 Staggered
 
I'm looking for a 1979-1984 Wellcraft Scarab 377 with the staggered engine layout as a project boat. Must have all rigging and power. Must not be bottom painted.

Target price: under $10,000 depending on condition

Are any of these hiding around?

hblair 07-31-2017 11:08 PM

They pop up occasionally on he powrboat swap shop on Facebook.

NautiSouth 08-01-2017 04:44 AM

Thanks for the tip-I just requested to join that group.

Sick Stinger 08-01-2017 07:06 AM

One on Craigslist I saw last night

offshore312 08-01-2017 07:43 AM

https://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/b...213976675.html

a little above your budget, but it is a staggered 377...

NautiSouth 08-01-2017 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by offshore312 (Post 4573058)
https://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/b...213976675.html

a little above your budget, but it is a staggered 377...

Yes, I've seen this one - the bottom paint makes me reluctant to talk seriously. While I've never removed bottom paint, I can't imagine it would be a pleasant job, nor would be potentially re-spraying and sanding fair the entire bottom. I've done some gelcoat work (transom and some interior pieces of my current boat) and that was a big enough job on its own.

Has anyone tackled removing bottom paint and have a story to tell?

offshore312 08-01-2017 07:57 AM

did it on my Stinger, while it's not the easiest job it's not the worst either...

NautiSouth 08-01-2017 08:07 AM

What do you consider to be the worst job, so I'll have a frame of reference?

phughes69 08-01-2017 11:54 AM

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I took the bottom paint off the bow area of my Formula 242LS. Why someone would paint the whole hull black is beyond me. I used Aqua Strip. It worked very well. I did it about 3 times. It got it down to the original gelcoat. The only downside was the boat had black bottom paint over red bottom paint over the white gelcoat. When I got the gelcoat cleaned up the red bottom paint was stuck in all the sanding grooves from where they rough sanded the bottom to prep it for paint. I think they sanded it with 20 grit sandpaper, the grooves were so deep. Ive heard that bottom paint only knocks off 3-4 MPH, so does the cost and effort to remove bottom paint justify the speed gains on an old staggered 377 Scarab, probably not. It just creates a negotiating point to get the boat cheaper.

TPro587 08-01-2017 01:59 PM

I know of one in the Tri-City area. I'm not sure of the guys story but he has been out of contact for a while and the boat has been sitting all summer, he may be willing to sell. It is definitely a 377 Scarab but can't say for sure if it's staggered or not.

Sick Stinger 08-01-2017 06:53 PM

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Sick Stinger 08-01-2017 08:48 PM

Check Annapolis CL another one on there for 12

NautiSouth 08-01-2017 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by Sick Stinger (Post 4573241)
Check Annapolis CL another one on there for 12

thank you so much for your help! Unfortunately all of your links are giving me trouble. I did look into the Annapolis one, and it seems to be a decent boat. Reportedly needs stringers. Seller appears to be a widow. Would make a good project for someone, but unfortunately it's a side by side engine boat, and not what I'm looking for.

There is a teal one on the Palm Springs CL without power named "Mufasa". Reportedly ordered by Las Vegas Casino magnate Steve Wynn. Upholstery is trashed, unsure if all the driveline is there. Good project for someone with a trailer to bring it home on. Might have Speedmaster drives, maybe PHughes could identify. I'd look closer if it wasn't in California.

indysupra 08-01-2017 09:07 PM

I bet that one is a soggy mess!!!! I would think with bottom paint means left in the water.

NautiSouth 08-01-2017 09:11 PM

Right. Another reason I'm reluctant to buy a bottom painted boat.

Makes me wonder if all the old cruisers out there who live at the marina are rotten hulks and nobody cares because they don't demand much from their structure.

offshore312 08-01-2017 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by NautiSouth (Post 4573065)
What do you consider to be the worst job, so I'll have a frame of reference?

Took me a full Saturday afternoon to apply the remover, scrape off with plastic bondo spreader & powerwash hull.

Interceptor 08-02-2017 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by indysupra (Post 4573247)
I bet that one is a soggy mess!!!! I would think with bottom paint means left in the water.


And to think Bertram, Hatteras, Ocean, Viking build boats that stay in the water. But then maybe they build their boat correctly.

NautiSouth 08-07-2017 03:03 PM

Well, , I thought I had a lead on one locally, but the owner won't schedule a time for me to come see it. My guess is someone wants to look like they're selling a boat, but not actually sell a boat.

FB_IMG_1501605213175_zpszmqf0rrf.jpg Photo by ChrisAllmond | Photobucket

db72 08-08-2017 01:25 AM


Originally Posted by hblair (Post 4573027)
They pop up occasionally on he powrboat swap shop on Facebook.

only one on there now. Side by side. In the keys.

NautiSouth 09-29-2017 01:34 PM

Bump. Any new Staggered 377's entering the market now? So far, I'm aware of the following:

Color * Location * Status
White/Red/Black * Saginaw, MI * Bronze Bottom Paint - Not Interested
White/Brown/Tan * Shelby Twp, MI * Owner not serious about selling
Burgundy * Bay City, MI * Cockpit and cabin stripped bare
White/Teal - "Mufasa" * Palm Springs, CA * No Power, No Trailer, big project
Blue/Gold * Annapolis, MD * Reported rotten stringers, side-by-side engines
Red/Orange/Yellow* Copiague, NY * High Bow Rail/Bottom Paint
Yellow/Orange/Purple/Teal/Salmon * Peoria, IL * Not my favorite color combination
Red/Yellow "Extinguish This" * Chesterfield Twp., MI * Priced too high / no trailer
Red/White * Ottawa, CA * Not excited about importation hassle

Are there any I've missed? Any more out there on the "Hidden Market"?

outonsafari 09-29-2017 04:33 PM

it's a real long shot, but a 1979 white w/ blue stripe staggered 377 was for sale in n.e. ohio area code 440.
no bottom paint on a trailer but it was originally listed 6-12-12. named B'laster, one of bill wesley's old boats.
maybe start a thread about it here and/or on facebook, someone knows somebody that knows where it's at
they just have to hear about it.

NautiSouth 02-21-2018 11:30 AM

bump

I'm still on the lookout for the "right" boat

hblair 02-22-2018 01:49 PM

There is one on the race boat swap shop on Facebook right now.

NautiSouth 02-22-2018 03:52 PM

I'll let someone else take the Hulk! Lol!

hblair 02-22-2018 04:05 PM

That was my thinking too, but you never know what other peoples tastes are. The interior looked pretty good, but it had bottom paint too.

hblair 02-23-2018 11:40 PM

This is on eBay, has bottom paint.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F173162526091

Rookie 02-24-2018 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by hblair (Post 4611691)
There is one on the race boat swap shop on Facebook right now.


Originally Posted by NautiSouth (Post 4611723)
I'll let someone else take the Hulk! Lol!

WTF!! Please tell me that's a wrap...


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