36 outlaw quality
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^^^^^ What he said. I have a 2000 and I know how much power it takes. And how much drives cost...And how long they last... And I am very sure Doc's boat never hit 95 and that was with 850 per side. He was very disappointed after all the money he spent on the conversion.
Here's the comparo...36 Outlaw has HUGE cockpit and very nice roomy cabin. The ride is good in the rough and takes a good driver to get the most out of it. Bravo drives will not last with a power upgrade. Put Arneson's on it and your set. And broke
The 38 Cig T/S great ride anywhere. With modest power can run into the 90's. Typical small cockpit and next to no cabin space and only a porta potty. Older straight bottom Cigs ride awesome and have larger cabins, but take a lot more power like the 36 to go fast.
If I had the funds, I would buy a 40 Outlaw, put some reliable 850's in it along with Arneson's and have a huge cockpit and a huge cabin and go have fun. That set up would run low 90's all day.
Here's the comparo...36 Outlaw has HUGE cockpit and very nice roomy cabin. The ride is good in the rough and takes a good driver to get the most out of it. Bravo drives will not last with a power upgrade. Put Arneson's on it and your set. And broke
The 38 Cig T/S great ride anywhere. With modest power can run into the 90's. Typical small cockpit and next to no cabin space and only a porta potty. Older straight bottom Cigs ride awesome and have larger cabins, but take a lot more power like the 36 to go fast.
If I had the funds, I would buy a 40 Outlaw, put some reliable 850's in it along with Arneson's and have a huge cockpit and a huge cabin and go have fun. That set up would run low 90's all day.
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Dock Holiday's boat is currently in n/a form and owned by a friend. 540cu n/a power, est 675hp, custom tuned in boat, xrs with imco lowers, dry exhaust, running 78 mph and has had extensive prop work trying to get more.
Like others have said, not the boat to try to make fast. It is the boat to have 10 people on! It has great lines! Girls don't know they aren't fast! Spacious cabin (hate the head however). Easy to drive in all conditions, I can't think of what one would have to do to spin one out....crazy stable. I can't speak for the strength of the hull, but I never had complaints in rough water.
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The 36 is the old 36 cigarette hull.. IMO the Baja just looks better than the cig look at the interior and cuddy on both boats and tell me that the Baja isn't nicer looking! As far as speed it takes a ton of power to get either one of them to run in the 90's, there both big heavy boats. I have a friend with a 38 TG with 950's and he runs 98 mph , when Mark Terry owned Dock Holiday he had 850's in his 36 outlaw and it ran 95 mph! So with said the 2 boats are similar but I like the interiors better on the Baja over the cigarette...
That number is a little high on the Doc boat, however the thing is a true work of art. We sometimes joke that he went bankrupt trying to get a Baja to do 100
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^^^^^ What he said. I have a 2000 and I know how much power it takes. And how much drives cost...And how long they last... And I am very sure Doc's boat never hit 95 and that was with 850 per side. He was very disappointed after all the money he spent on the conversion.
Here's the comparo...36 Outlaw has HUGE cockpit and very nice roomy cabin. The ride is good in the rough and takes a good driver to get the most out of it. Bravo drives will not last with a power upgrade. Put Arneson's on it and your set. And broke
The 38 Cig T/S great ride anywhere. With modest power can run into the 90's. Typical small cockpit and next to no cabin space and only a porta potty. Older straight bottom Cigs ride awesome and have larger cabins, but take a lot more power like the 36 to go fast.
If I had the funds, I would buy a 40 Outlaw, put some reliable 850's in it along with Arneson's and have a huge cockpit and a huge cabin and go have fun. That set up would run low 90's all day.
Here's the comparo...36 Outlaw has HUGE cockpit and very nice roomy cabin. The ride is good in the rough and takes a good driver to get the most out of it. Bravo drives will not last with a power upgrade. Put Arneson's on it and your set. And broke
The 38 Cig T/S great ride anywhere. With modest power can run into the 90's. Typical small cockpit and next to no cabin space and only a porta potty. Older straight bottom Cigs ride awesome and have larger cabins, but take a lot more power like the 36 to go fast.
If I had the funds, I would buy a 40 Outlaw, put some reliable 850's in it along with Arneson's and have a huge cockpit and a huge cabin and go have fun. That set up would run low 90's all day.
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The hull can handle 2000 HP. The main difference from a Baja to the Cig, is that the Baja has less bulk heads so it is just not as stiff. It will not break in half , it just does not feel as solid when hitting the rough stuff. When I was down at the LOTO shootout this year, we had a blast busting thru the huge waves/slop made by the big cruisers.
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The old cig hull was sold to Force, who slashed a few boats off the mold. The mold was measured for reference to build the 36 OL mold, but it was not a direct splash.
That number is a little high on the Doc boat, however the thing is a true work of art. We sometimes joke that he went bankrupt trying to get a Baja to do 100
That number is a little high on the Doc boat, however the thing is a true work of art. We sometimes joke that he went bankrupt trying to get a Baja to do 100
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