Is Sutphen the better boat
09-14-2010, 08:24 PM
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There are ALWAYS going to be people that come into the Cigarette forum, & hate on their product.
Yet, there will NEVER be a more popular boat out there than a Cigarette, because of their continued ability to build strong, stylish, sexy, fast boats that THEIR customers want.
A few might migrate to Sutphen, or OL, occassionally, but the vast majority of boaters consider Cigarette the all around best Vee bottom available for their tastes.
Cigarette has earned that reputation over MANY more years of hard work, than todays flavor of the week have been around to accumulate. Whether or not a boat has, or does not have, a full sized master bathroom & kitchen, is irrelevant to most high performance boaters. Those creature comforts don't make a boat better than another, just by having an option that has nothing to do with the boats ability to perform.
From what I've seen, most performance boaters want their boat to:
Look sexy.
Run fast.
Be easy to operate.
Perform & hold together well in all water conditions.
Have some variation of a cabin.
Look sexy
You may have the best quality boat ever assembled, but if it's ugly, you won't sell many. There are also good looking boats out there, with half-assed build quality, that sell well.
It's generally all about the lines to most in the end. People will deal with not having all of the rest, as long as their boat excites them every time they see, or use it.
Yet, there will NEVER be a more popular boat out there than a Cigarette, because of their continued ability to build strong, stylish, sexy, fast boats that THEIR customers want.
A few might migrate to Sutphen, or OL, occassionally, but the vast majority of boaters consider Cigarette the all around best Vee bottom available for their tastes.
Cigarette has earned that reputation over MANY more years of hard work, than todays flavor of the week have been around to accumulate. Whether or not a boat has, or does not have, a full sized master bathroom & kitchen, is irrelevant to most high performance boaters. Those creature comforts don't make a boat better than another, just by having an option that has nothing to do with the boats ability to perform.
From what I've seen, most performance boaters want their boat to:
Look sexy.
Run fast.
Be easy to operate.
Perform & hold together well in all water conditions.
Have some variation of a cabin.
Look sexy
You may have the best quality boat ever assembled, but if it's ugly, you won't sell many. There are also good looking boats out there, with half-assed build quality, that sell well.
It's generally all about the lines to most in the end. People will deal with not having all of the rest, as long as their boat excites them every time they see, or use it.
I have to say 99% of you cigarette owners responded with total class on this topic.
I am both amazed and impressed.
I totally take back my Cigarette cockiness comment!
I will eat crow on that one.
However as far as coming into the cigarette forum to talk smack, I must say that A cig Owner came into the Sutphen forum to talk smack and that is what started the whole NE thread getting out of control (this time)LOL
Its OK though we Sutphen owners are pretty secure in our boats so we didnt really mind. We were just playing me and Sickstinger. It was an insde joke kind of a thing.
Cigs are good boats and I do like their lines. Its not my No1 but thats OK yours pobably isnt sutphen or youd own one.
We can honestly all appreciate eachothers ride I am sure.
09-14-2010, 08:38 PM
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Can't we all just get along.
Bottom line everyone can say this and that what seperates them is when there running. I've been impressed in several brands in one way or another.
Bottom line everyone can say this and that what seperates them is when there running. I've been impressed in several brands in one way or another.
09-14-2010, 09:16 PM
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Hay, easy on the PP comments.... Not everyone is here starting trouble. Actually PP and Cig have (to me) the same South Fl lines that I love (and good build quality, rough water ride, etc....).
As to Breitling being the best, see point below!
Exactly. My Breitling is great as far as holding up to abuse, but after 7 years it doesn't keep time for chit, even with a winder at night. Needs a tune-up, to the tune of $500, ouch.
Actually PP and Cig have (to me) the same South Fl lines that I love (and good build quality, rough water ride, etc....). As to Breitling being the best, see point below!
Exactly. My Breitling is great as far as holding up to abuse, but after 7 years it doesn't keep time for chit, even with a winder at night. Needs a tune-up, to the tune of $500, ouch.
09-14-2010, 11:13 PM
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I think all performance's boat have thier good and bad point's, I prefer Cigarette's, and I have the boat and Cigarette watch to prove it lol!! It is just great to get out on the water with everyone and enjoy our boat's together!!
Last edited by WMF; 09-15-2010 at 07:19 AM.
09-15-2010, 09:36 AM
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09-16-2010, 12:26 PM
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30Sutphen typed it very well, all boaters should be able to be happy and suppotive of their brands...
Its fun to read smart people discuss their boats, cant be said for some other threads and boats on this site...
Its fun to read smart people discuss their boats, cant be said for some other threads and boats on this site...
