Mark
I have meet katdrvr several times over the years and I sure he feels like **** without your help. When he made his remark he never expected this to happen like all of us.

My thoughts are with Steve's wife and kids. :(

the 4 that were killed,steve(owner htm),ken lane(engine builder),chuck wiseman(aka mrpumps),nelson(assistant to ken )all have families,kids.my prayers are with thosefamily members,as well as my sis and brother-in-law,who were at the lake just after it happened,they own a 24 htm. :(