Mentalpause

I noticed this past fall that West Marine at LOTO was selling a new version of Stabil that was formulated for Ethenol blended fuel. It was considerably more expensive, but the 32oz bottle also treated 320 gallons versus the 80 gallons the regular large Stabil bottle treats.

Not sure there are any results on it yet since I think it got introduced last fall.....and the spring restarts are not here yet.

Anyone know anything about it?

RunninHotRacing163.1

Thnx John
sure would be nice to know if this stuff worx ,and who has tried it ..... its to late when the Gel coat is poppin off the size of dinner plates, print is showing thru, paint jobs are peeling & bubling & G*S is runnin along the stringers to the bilge pumps..

Zudnic

Reading my RR owners manual. They say avoid ethanol blended fuels. For one it can eat not only fiberglass, aluminum as well, along with rubber and plastic bits. Sure they can create formulas to make it not lose octane. But don't think they can make something that stops it from decaying components that make up fuel systems.

RunninHotRacing163.1

Hey BIG DADDY how the H*LL do we avoid ethanol blended fuels when there puttin 10% in our gas ????????? and Peter has said 2% is BADD, 10% is REALLY BADD . talked to SKATER BROs in Texas, & New Orleans today and they dont have the ethanol added we do in the big city .... WTFs with that ??? any ideas
Thnx zudnic

Zudnic

Have no clue how to avoid it.... The owners manual was written in 1991. Discovered that by accident when changing spark plugs. That tidbit was a little interesting that they say avoid ethanol blended petrol. Its also cool that they even have the spark plug gap in the owners manual. But not the for sight that hippie liberal enviro wackos would effect America with this blended bull chit...... You might check into fueling up at a General Aviation airport. But check that out with your engine builder or Skater first. Sunoco sold 98 octane at their gas stations for cars. So wonder if 100LL avgas would be much different to that car fuel octane rating. Ethanol it corrodes aluminum and:


Borrowed from my car club forum and some of their tech advisors as others have read their manuals and asked what to do:

Mentalpause

World has changed a lot since the 90s. That probably is the issue. My 600s manual does not indicate an ethanol blend is not tolerated, rather, as long as 91 octane is maintained you are ok. I suspect the other components, like hoses, are tolerant of ethanol in newer applications.

The question I have is more around sustaining the integrity of the fuel over long storage. LOTO has sustained non ethanol gas on the lake for a long time, so I haven't had to use ethanol blend. But I suspect this season it will be inevitable.

I am just wondering how the Stabil for ethanol works. There are times even during boating season that I might go 3-4 weeks before runs, so can I use the stabil for ethanol as a mitigation for problems?

I am an advocate of leaving my tank pretty empty over winter and filling with highest octane in the spring. And then changing the water separation filter early after running an hour or so.

Chris288

I have been saying all along that I thought Sta-bil didn't work very well for w/ E-10 and to use star-tron. Glad to see sta-bil is reformulated. I have had great luck with star-tron and will continue to use it in everything.

RunninHotRacing163.1

hey Big Daddy so the star-tron is working ????? and has helped in stopping the tanks from Melting ????? are you a dealer for star-tron or just looking for helpful products to combat this B/S

Zudnic

Think thats where my car manufacture has problems. Most who own them store them over longer periods and use them rarely. A lot of the other service issues are Ferrari like issues that are more storage gremlins over the car itself. The Stabil does prevent the laquer goey stuff gas turns into. Hence some Ferrari owners complained about tuning carbs etc, almost every time they drove them. Must be Ferrari and not that they only drove it around the block once or so a year.

The other with mine ethanol causes corrosion in aluminum engines. But again think driving them is key in keeping them moisture free, etcetera. A few dealers and other specialists are saying if your RR has been in storage for 6 month or more have it towed into the shop. Have gas tank flushed out, and then be on your way....... Magazines my favorite section is tech columns because I like doing most stuff myself. For both boats and cars that people store for longer periods most of the little gremlins seem storage related. Still don't like that ethanol is more corrosive on rubber, plastics, etcetera.

The other part of buying ethanol blends is its hippie dippy liberal BS. For almost the same reason if I drive through Oregon, I try and avoid buying gas inside that state. After sort of working near the agriculture industry. They don't really have to employ illegal immigrants and government should not help them in this manner until they employ legal Americans. Like Oregon should let us Romans pump our own gas, not have some F'in welfare moron do it for us! So its also I dont like f'in liberalism ethanol is better for the environment BS and mechanical. Plus don't like industry welfare that employs and encourages mediocre work force..............................

mercury

Lets lobby to get this CRAP taken out! Gas absolutly does go bad much faster! Cars harder to start [reportedly from backflow preventer valves going to sh** from the ethenal] Fiberglass tanks on cruisers disolving cousing many many gallons of gas to get pumped OVERBOARD. [until bilgepump melts] Also increase in pollution from plowed fields and Nitrates from run off.