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CcanDo 02-29-2008 06:36 PM

TKF Chicago, Your profile discloses an interesting Resume'. Obviously,you have extensive insight.

Therefore,the argument is NOT anti-change against a new or alternative fuel. To the contrary,any and all practical options SHOULD be explored.

Ethanol Blend Fuel has been given an extended opportunity to perform in the application of Marine Fuel. The assumed fact is, Ethanol in its present formula has not performed satisfactorily in Marine use. At such time the formula is proven acceptable for the application,bring it on.

Meanwhile,lets assume Hawaii legislature didn't address their original position just for something to do. No,they did reportedly catch their over sight,correct it and set precedence.

TKF Chicago 02-29-2008 07:22 PM

As I said before, you can make fuel from any plant material. Those of you who concerned about it having an impact on food production. Not going to happen. You can make it from plant celulose or the bi-product of plants after we are done harvesting and processing for food.

TKF Chicago 02-29-2008 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by CcanDo (Post 2466447)
TKF Chicago, Your profile discloses an interesting Resume'. Obviously,you have extensive insight.

Therefore,the argument is NOT anti-change against a new or alternative fuel. To the contrary,any and all practical options SHOULD be explored.

Ethanol Blend Fuel has been given an extended opportunity to perform in the application of Marine Fuel. The assumed fact is, Ethanol in its present formula has not performed satisfactorily in Marine use. At such time the formula is proven acceptable for the application,bring it on.

Meanwhile,lets assume Hawaii legislature didn't address their original position just for something to do. No,they did reportedly catch their over sight,correct it and set precedence.

Well put. Yes, it is going to take time. The resources are there. The government needs to get off thier ass and invest some time and money into this. The bottom line, there are alternative fuels. We don't need fossil fuels. It takes are lives to be pulled out from underneath us to change as a society.

CcanDo 03-01-2008 09:23 AM

It is a little appalling, this thread has not received more participation. It would be interesting to see a show of hands,for or against Ethanol Blend Marine Fuel.

Extensive reports suggest Ethanol Blend is NOT marine use compatible.

offshoresteve 03-01-2008 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by CcanDo (Post 2466942)
It is a little appalling, this thread has not received more participation. It would be interesting to see a show of hands,for or against Ethanol Blend Marine Fuel.

Extensive reports suggest Ethanol Blend is NOT marine use compatible.

I HATE ETHANOL in the MARINE FUEL!If it did not exist I would not have to make a 1500mile run to Skater,leaving Sun returning Mon:(

Payton 03-01-2008 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by CcanDo (Post 2466942)
It is a little appalling, this thread has not received more participation. It would be interesting to see a show of hands,for or against Ethanol Blend Marine Fuel.

Extensive reports suggest Ethanol Blend is NOT marine use compatible.

I wouldn't say it's appalling, I would say it's not a problem for everyone. I understand your concern with your fiberglass tanks. Starting 5 years ago I have been useing gasahol (E10) about 50% of the time, the last 2 years 100% of the time. I have not had a single issue. I've got aluminum tanks in a 17year oldboat.

Njawb 03-01-2008 02:54 PM

You mean E10, not E90.

Payton 03-01-2008 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by Njawb (Post 2467267)
You mean E10, not E90.

yep, fixed it, thanx

CcanDo 03-01-2008 05:36 PM

Payton, What brand and formulation of fuel have you been using ? Have you taken any maintainance precautions not taken when using straight gasoline ? Do you use fuel/ water separators ? How long does your boat stay in the water?

Sure, I have concern for fiberglass tanks. However,the bigger picture includes safety,marine economic impact and pollution,the same items Hawaii reportedly considered for their reverse mandate.

The guts of the matter appears to be phase separation. Therefore,pending a solution for phase separation,why not endorse Hawaii's position?

offshoresteve 03-02-2008 01:59 AM


Originally Posted by Payton (Post 2467162)
I wouldn't say it's appalling, I would say it's not a problem for everyone. I understand your concern with your fiberglass tanks. Starting 5 years ago I have been useing gasahol (E10) about 50% of the time, the last 2 years 100% of the time. I have not had a single issue. I've got aluminum tanks in a 17year oldboat.

Ethanol will cause your aluminum tanks to corrode! It is not an issue of IF,BUT WHEN ! Not to mention Ethanol attracts moisture,so have good fuel/water separators and check them often!:D


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