BenPerfected

Cat,
Can I get a rain check for Texoma? I am committed to my other bad habit...competition shooting on both Saturday and Sunday.

CcanDo

Ben,

Yes, on the rain check, we would be honored to have you anytime !

Speaking of shooting, I heard there was a cutting and shooting in Dallas. Ya !, some Guy "Cut" around the corner and "Shot" up the alley. Corny or what ?

Good Luck....Beat em !.....

CcanDo

We wondered about 16 VDC batteries. However, without trying such, the question of alternators, ignition and etc. comes to mind. The starter circuit could be isolated and all else could be regulated with a Voltage Regulator (VR). However, the load calculations may be a bit complex.

Your race car is probably using a Magneto and no Alternator ?? Do you use a remote battery charger between starts ? Do you use a VR and/or diodes to protect the gauges ? Subject to the gauges seeing 16 VDC, is accuracy an issue ?

I know, to many questions, interesting solution....Thanks !

Hardin Marine

These are awesome starters that we have sold for a number of years and have become the choice of many of our engine builders. Here's an option http://www.hardin-marine.com/p-13240...-rotation.aspx

CcanDo

We just got two, and they look like they will work.

SkiDoc

iTrader: (4)

If they are API brand sent by Hardin, send them back, I had 2 that went bad in their first outing. Cost me about a 4 hr idle back to the dock one day and then about a 2 hour idle back to the dock with Eddie on board.

CcanDo

Thanks for the heads up, do you know why they failed ?

I know you suggested the 808011-A4 as being your preferred choice. You favor those because of their performance and price, a hard combination to argue against. You also mentioned the Tilton's as spinning with more RPM. Ben found the Tilton's, but it bothers me that Tilton has stopped production for the marine version part number.

We ordered two from CP Performance, AKA Hardin, they came packaged with a .50" spacer for shimming the long starter nose away from starter gear interference. Measurements found the starter gear would engage when the bendix shaft was fully extended. However, when actually installed, starter engagement was hit and miss. That was the learning point of spiral cut gears. The subject starters have a cone cut gear tooth end, blunt enough to center on the flat tooth of the flywheel starter ring.

The reaction was to send them back. However, first the manufacturer appealed for trying a .125" shim ILO the .50" and try it again. The .125" shims were over-nighted, installed and tested several times without fail.

The CP/Hardin starter does turn the engine faster than the 808011-A4, which is faster than the 808011-AO5. The 808011-AO5 is too slow and we did have a failure, a new 808011-A4 .

The CP/Hardin starter OEM did admit the subject gear cut design was inferior to the spiral cut, but his gear supplier wanted a truck load order for spiral cut gears. (quote)Whereas, the present design has worked for him, for 15 years, he has not justified the special commitment.

What do we do now ? Hardin, do you have any comments ?

SkiDoc

iTrader: (4)

Ill get the last one that failed and get the part number off of it. Didnt bother to return it. Went to start and it enguaged the flywheel. Something would spin but was toast?