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Old 07-15-2003, 12:46 PM
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Gotta open this one back up. I've tried all kinda stuff but still no fix. The gauge appears to be working....when you turn the key the gauge moves, but that's it.
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Could be a bad gauge. Remove the sender wire from the back of the gauge and jumper the sender lead to the ground lead. Gauge should then read either "zero" or full-hot. Anything else and the gauge is bad.

Next, run a wire direct from the sender to the gauge sender lead bypassing all the boat wiring. If it works it is bad boat wiring. If it doesn't it is a bad sender.

Take a digital OHM meter and measure across the output connector of the sender to the engine block and again to the battery negative and again to the gauge negative. They should all read the same at about 200 Ohms I think. If the are different then one has a bad ground (ie if sender to block is different than sender to battery negative you have a bad engine to battery ground).

Have someone else crank over the starter and repeat this test, if you see resitance change when cranking you also have a bad engine to battery ground.

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I did as you said and the gauge read full hot. I don't have an OHM meter but I'll borrow one and try that. I'm thinking it's just a bad ground. Maybe I should just make a jumper from the sender to the battery ground and leave it at that? IF it works of course
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I did as you said and the gauge read full hot. I don't have an OHM meter but I'll borrow one and try that. I'm thinking it's just a bad ground. Maybe I should just make a jumper from the sender to the battery ground and leave it at that? IF it works of course
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Are your dash lights weak?
Are there other Ground issues that you may be overlooking.
I would fix the ground bus if that is the case, the temp line to the battery should be a short term fix.
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Nope..dash lights are fine....no other issues that I know of. Here's something weird. When you run the boat for a while, then stop. Then after re-starting the temp gauge will shoot up to 150....then slowly go back to 100 and stay there. Man this has got me all messed up.
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Originally posted by 97BossHammer
Nope..dash lights are fine....no other issues that I know of. Here's something weird. When you run the boat for a while, then stop. Then after re-starting the temp gauge will shoot up to 150....then slowly go back to 100 and stay there. Man this has got me all messed up.
When you shut it off the motor will heat up. When you first restart it you will see the high temp. Once the motor start pumping coolant it will go back down to running temp. It sounds like either you actually are running at about 100* (my motors will idle at 110* in the spring when the water is cold since I don't run a recirc pump or t-stat) or the resistence range for your gauge and sender are mismatched, causing it to read low.

Not all gauges/senders interchange, for example having a sender intended for a dual station (ie two gauges running off of 1 sender) will cause the temp to read low (on oil pressure gauges it causes them to read 1/2 of true). I found this when switching my Formula from full dual instrumentation to a driver/navigator panel setup.

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I had the same problem. Hopefully it is fixed, but we will see. The impeller went to shreads so I had it changed. The tech said that the gauge went bad. I took it home grounded the gauge out --- pegged, then grounded the sender wire -- pegged. I took out the sender and took a look. I noticed some red crap (loctite ??) on it that crumbled off. I took a look and put it back in. Turned the key and now at least the needle moves. Before nothing happened at all. Is this possible loctite (sealer) needed?? Should I put some on it again and reinstall or did this possibly prevent a ground the sender needed or something? I'll have the boat out today and I'll let you know what I find.
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Well before the boat would read at around 150 or so....now after changing the impellar it will read at 100 all the time which can't be right.

scervin - let me know what happens...maybe I'll try that with mine if yours works.
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Old 07-28-2003, 12:15 PM
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hey scervin did you ever run it again to find out?
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