New 318 Flatdeck Widebody Outboard build.
11-22-2014, 09:41 AM
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Yea LA I didn't think so but you never know. Would be fun to be the first. Problem is you're kinda go in blind. Because the deck windshield and wide body you never know whats gonna happen in the end. Should be interesting anyway. Nice haven the transom strengthened for trips or maybe those rumored merc 400s. How about really wishful thinking and triple 400s. Now that would be wonderful. Not sure if it would be possible as they don't exist yet. Steve
11-22-2014, 09:59 AM
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I'm pretty sure yours will be the 1st. Cause you essentially have a 338 without the bussel for obvious reason. Haha... And I know there are only 2 of those out there with #3 being built now. So ya I don't believe there are any other widened 30s.
11-22-2014, 10:54 AM
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is there a 308 flat deck with windshield just not a wide body at havasu? . Skate built one bad ass 338...I got to see it first hand at the tickfaw 200 last year after helt purchased it! and yea some 400's would be great...of course lots of people have been waiting on that for awhile now LOL.
when is the projected finish date? be nice to see your new 308 fatboy down here at the 200!
when is the projected finish date? be nice to see your new 308 fatboy down here at the 200!
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11-22-2014, 11:31 AM
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I know of 2 flat deck 308s-
1- Jimmy Johns has one with cut down windshield and 300x on it
2- one that was at 2010 Miami show with 300xs and standard windshield.
JJs windshield is like a chopped down hot rod look.
1- Jimmy Johns has one with cut down windshield and 300x on it
2- one that was at 2010 Miami show with 300xs and standard windshield.
JJs windshield is like a chopped down hot rod look.
11-22-2014, 11:50 AM
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Finish date.
is there a 308 flat deck with windshield just not a wide body at havasu? . Skate built one bad ass 338...I got to see it first hand at the tickfaw 200 last year after helt purchased it! and yea some 400's would be great...of course lots of people have been waiting on that for awhile now LOL.
when is the projected finish date? be nice to see your new 308 fatboy down here at the 200!
when is the projected finish date? be nice to see your new 308 fatboy down here at the 200!
11-22-2014, 02:23 PM
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11-22-2014, 03:02 PM
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Here is the 2010 Miami 308 - it belongs to Greg Reichman and was re-rigged by Joe Abelera with triples. I don't think this boat is widened, nor do I think any of the other 30 OBs are either. I was discussing your boat with Rik yesterday, and neither one of us are sure what the outcome will be performance-wise with the widened tunnel. At the speeds you will be seeing with OB power, the lift generated by the tunnel is fairly small. Therefore, the additional weight of the widened/flat-decked/wrap-windshield boat may cancel out any benefit from the additional lift of the widened tunnel over a standard-deck/standard-tunnel 30. The lift generated by the tunnel doesn't really start doing a lot until around 120 or so, regardless of size or weight of the boat. The wide-tunnel DW32s and Victory X-Cats are super fast because their sponsons are much narrower than the 30 Skater's, not so much because of the tunnel. From what Pete told me back in '04, the widened tunnels help stability in the rough, and speed on the boats running big #s (but it is also easier to blow them over, which is why I stayed standard width for the size/speed of my boat). Proof of lift generation needing speeds of over 120 to be effective, regardless of size or weight can be seen in rotation speed of commercial airliners. Whether it's a 737 at empty takeoff weight of 90,000#s or a 747 at max takeoff weight of 800,000#s, they both rotate at around the same speeds over 120mph (140mph for the 737, 180mph for the 747), even though the 747 weighs 10X what the 737 does! You shouldn't be looking for the widened boat as a performance benefit as much as just being what you want. I talked to Pete in length about the pluses and minuses of widening the tunnel on my 30 when it was being built, and I decided to stay with the standard width. But that's what is so cool about Skaters - they're all different and unique!
And as for these 400hp performance outboards you guys keep thinking Mercury's coming out with, I keep telling you all to forget about it - it isn't gonna' happen! These same exact rumors were even hotter than they are right now back in 2004 when I started my 30 build - it didn't happen then, and it isn't going to happen now. If Mercury does release a 400hp outboard, it's just going to be a hopped-up version of the 350hp Verado (which would still suck on a Skater). If you guys want to go fast in a 30, just build it as an inboard boat.
And as for these 400hp performance outboards you guys keep thinking Mercury's coming out with, I keep telling you all to forget about it - it isn't gonna' happen! These same exact rumors were even hotter than they are right now back in 2004 when I started my 30 build - it didn't happen then, and it isn't going to happen now. If Mercury does release a 400hp outboard, it's just going to be a hopped-up version of the 350hp Verado (which would still suck on a Skater). If you guys want to go fast in a 30, just build it as an inboard boat.
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11-22-2014, 03:41 PM
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Here is the 2010 Miami 308 - it belongs to Greg Reichman and was re-rigged by Joe Abelera with triples. I don't think this boat is widened, nor do I think any of the other 30 OBs are either. I was discussing your boat with Rik yesterday, and neither one of us are sure what the outcome will be performance-wise with the widened tunnel. At the speeds you will be seeing with OB power, the lift generated by the tunnel is fairly small. Therefore, the additional weight of the widened/flat-decked/wrap-windshield boat may cancel out any benefit from the additional lift of the widened tunnel over a standard-deck/standard-tunnel 30. The lift generated by the tunnel doesn't really start helping until around 120 or so, regardless of size or weight of the boat. Proof of lift generation regardless of size or weight can be seen in rotation speed of commercial airliners. Whether it's a 737 at max takeoff weight of 80,000#s or a 747 at max takeoff weight of 800,000#s, they both rotate at around the same speeds (150mph for the 737, 180mph for the 747), even though the 747 weighs 10X what the 737 does! You shouldn't be looking for the widened boat as a performance benefit as much as just being what you want. I talked to Pete in length about the pluses and minuses of widening the tunnel on my 30 when it was being built, and I decided to stay with the standard width. But that's what is so cool about Skaters - they're all different and unique!
And as for these 400hp performance outboards you guys keep thinking Mercury's coming out with, I keep telling you all to forget about it - it isn't gonna' happen! These same exact rumors were even hotter than they are right now back in 2004 when I started my 30 build - it didn't happen then, and it isn't going to happen now. If Mercury does release a 400hp outboard, it's just going to be a hopped-up version of the 350hp Verado (which would still suck on a Skater). If you guys want to go fast in a 30, just build it as an inboard boat.
And as for these 400hp performance outboards you guys keep thinking Mercury's coming out with, I keep telling you all to forget about it - it isn't gonna' happen! These same exact rumors were even hotter than they are right now back in 2004 when I started my 30 build - it didn't happen then, and it isn't going to happen now. If Mercury does release a 400hp outboard, it's just going to be a hopped-up version of the 350hp Verado (which would still suck on a Skater). If you guys want to go fast in a 30, just build it as an inboard boat.
