Smitty

iTrader: (1)

I got my info from somebody that knows a Toyota insider. I think name recognition (Cat)for Toyota is a factor in stealing Ford and Chevy buyers.

wannabe

You guys can say what you want but I have seen Ford really fucx up some issues.

First and foremost was the Explorer/Firestone issue. Ford under spec'd a tire and then to compound it lowered inflation pressures recommendations to "soften the ride". They then proceeded to try and blame Firestone for the issue thereby sinking a 90 plus year relationship.

Second they killed the Ford Taurus in favor of the 500, a mistake they have just rectified. To take the largest selling nameplate you have and kill it was something only GM could do until now. It galls me to say this because my father was a top exec. at GM for many years.

I have no doubt Ford and Navistar will come to terms. It may get uglier but who knows. They need that diesel.

Wannabe

Chris Sunkin

They're already in the mass-produced, low-margin market. That's why Navistar is having the troubles they are. Trucks are very much a commodity and the margins are tight. CAT does very well with their equipment lines and their power-products (locomotive & generator engines) and their parts business is huge. They're still operating in an incredibly competitive environment and the globalization of the last 20 years has brought customers worldwide alot closer to foreign-made products.

Keep in mind that the boards and executives of a public corporation are managing a stock price as much as they are managing a business. More than a few major manufacturing companies have seen major growth in revenues and market share and thus seen their stock proces rise. Most execs are paid on that performance. Take Dana Corp. as an example. In the late 90's they were booming. They acquired some of the biggest names in the business. Their stock boomed. What they ended up with was a tangled web of companies with less synergy than they imagined and a huge production capacity that was able to turn out low-margin commodity products. It eventually toppled. The guys that did it got paid and their shareholders got burned.

tblrklakemo

Disgusting

thunderusone

Ford has too much on the line.....the deal with IHC-Navistar will get worked out.

382 newbie

Even a cummins/ford would be great. I love Cummins but I do not think I will ever see a Dodge in my garage. O6 F-350 6.0

bob

Toyota recently purchased roughly 10% of Isuzu. Isuzu and GM are in process of getting a divorce. Toyota buys Isuzu ina another year. Bingo, they have a complete md truck product line when you merge the cab overs with Hino. Now as far as the Duramax side of things. I would imagine GM would like that but Isuzu did most of the design work. However, Isuzu wouldn't need it and Toyota could adapt one of their engine products for a nice one ton dually. Or the Cat 6.6 may find it's way into Toyota as well as other Cat engines going into Hino?

Byrdman

A cat in a toyota....that is the problem with america...yea...I know...there built here....crappin japs got there hands in it somewhere ...wouldn't you think..??...some of you border jumping traitors will get them....make sure you tell us...

2112

Totally agree.

wannabe

FROM DETROIT NEWS TODAY:

Navistar must ship engines to Ford

David Shepardson / Detroit News Washington Bureau

Advertisement


Get free headlines by e-mail
NEW! Get text alerts on your cell phone


Printer friendly version
Comment on this story
Send this story to a friend
Get Home Delivery
WASHINGTON -- Ford Motor Co. won a court order Wednesday to force a supplier of diesel engines to resume shipments to Ford's Louisville, Ky., truck plant, though operations will remain reduced until at least next week.

In a three-page ruling, Oakland County Circuit Judge John McDonald issued a temporary restraining order requiring Navistar International Corp. to resume production and shipment of its 6.4-liter diesel Ford PowerStroke engines used in Ford F-Series Super-Duty trucks. The supplier stopped shipping engines Monday over a pricing and warranty dispute.

Ford spokeswoman Becky Sanch said it would be at least until next week that Ford returns to full speed.

Earlier, Ford said it would reduce shifts today, close the plant Friday and operate one shift daily beginning Monday until Ford begin receiving engines on a timely basis.

Navistar had sent workers home and stopped ordering parts for engine production, so it isn't clear when production will resume, Sanch said. The trucks are very popular and a profitable vehicle for Ford."

I find it interesting that Ford will have to shut the plant in Louisville down for friday at least if not more.

Wannabe