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Shore Thing 03-06-2007 03:45 PM

Its kind of odd that we're having this conversation in the AT forum, because they are probably one of the most fair when it comes to pricing. But this forum is one of the few that you can have a controversial conversation in without getting attacked.

I'd just like to see a world where one buyer is treated equally to the next by eliminating price negotiations. Its not a fair fight because the dealer/manufacturer is the only one who knows how much it really cost them. If they are only going to make a 20% profit on Joe Dingleberry, I don't want them making a 40% profit on me just to make up for their earlier deal. Why not price so that everyone pays the same percentage and they always take in their 30% profit?

I know there is a lot of disagreement about this. But i think it is fair to both the manufacturer and the consumer.

The challenge lies in the changing of buyer behavior. Someone who is used to haggling a price will surely try to haggle a non-negotiable price as well. However this opens a whole new can of worms.

chuckbeecher 03-06-2007 03:51 PM

YEAH!!! why didn't you start this in the Outerlimits or Cig department???::rolleyes: :rolleyes: :evilb:

cosmic12 03-06-2007 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by Vyper340 (Post 2048722)
Hmmm... I've got my popcorn and watching with great interest as the authorities of the manufacturing world/OSO tell us how it really works.

I ran out a while ago:evilb:

Vyper340 03-06-2007 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by cosmic12 (Post 2048762)
I ran out a while ago:evilb:

:D :D :D

Stormrider 03-06-2007 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by Shore Thing (Post 2048752)
If they are only going to make a 20% profit on Joe Dingleberry, I don't want them making a 40% profit on me just to make up for their earlier deal.

Lets just say a 37 w/ 525s cost AT $200k to build.
JD buys it at $240k(20%mu), there is no way you'll be paying $280k for the same boat. There is waaaaaaaaay to much information on the web for this to happen.
You can just ask the factory for a price, then ask three other guys here what it will sell for, then you can ask the guys who own them what they paid. You've gotta be well educated after that.

If someone comes to me w/a price I need to hit, i'll do my best, unless I'm pretty sure they are lying.
If someone comes to me w/o a f'n clue what they are doing? You can bet they'll pay more, and alot more than 20%! :evilb:

LiquidVitamin 03-06-2007 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by customryder (Post 2048604)
All I want is a price:D

At the Miami Show we were quoted $300K for a new 37' with 525's, nice graffics w/ standard options. No Air or Gen, etc. This seemed like a great price seeing how the 33' was $239K. They build one boat per month so get in line.

spilman 03-06-2007 04:08 PM

What's that saying...if you have to ask..you probably can't afford it. Well, if you hang around OSO and really are smart enough to want an AT, you should know where to start the number game. And one more thing...who starts out with a NEW 37AT?....if you work your way up won't it be obvious? Lastly, Pat & Co. are more honest than most...just ask them.

yzbert 03-06-2007 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by Shore Thing (Post 2048752)
But this forum is one of the few that you can have a controversial conversation in without getting attacked.


alot of truth to that

customryder 03-06-2007 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 2048646)
All you gotta do is call. I know the price will be attractive.

Please let us know when the other manufacturers start posting dealer pricing on OSO. :evilb:

I did not ask it to be posted...pm me
Thanks,
Jeff

mikebrls 03-06-2007 05:14 PM

let's just say that the cost for a brand new 37 a.t. would be a minimum of a 100 k cheaper then a new 38 cigartette and will be faster with same power . " i think "
:)

OL40SVX 03-06-2007 05:58 PM

You can buy a new 38 Top Gun for around $350,000 with 525's and run 86mph. It was at the Miami Show. So there's a real number price for a Cig. I dont understand why AT cant just post what their boats cost. Is it a big secret or something??

Mentalpause 03-06-2007 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by fountain40icbm (Post 2048926)
You can buy a new 38 Top Gun for around $350,000 with 525's and run 86mph. It was at the Miami Show. So there's a real number price for a Cig. I dont understand why AT cant just post what their boats cost. Is it a big secret or something??

The price for that same boat at the Chicago show was $380K, bare bones no options. Maybe that is the whole point of the thread. Why can't pricing be more consistent.

My opinion, not the American way. Go buy something for $100 at Lowes and find it on sale at home depot for $75, or vis-a-vis.

cosmic12 03-06-2007 06:15 PM

The wife just got home with more popcorn:cool: OK lets go I'm ready now:evilb:

slboatdrinks 03-06-2007 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by cosmic12 (Post 2048942)
The wife just got home with more popcorn:cool: OK lets go I'm ready now:evilb:

Screw the popcorn. I just came back with 10 Mega Millions tickets. Daddy needs a new 43 AT!! :D

cosmic12 03-06-2007 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by slboatdrinks (Post 2048954)
Screw the popcorn. I just came back with 10 Mega Millions tickets. Daddy needs a new 43 AT!! :D

Great then we can start a price war over the only used 33:drink:

slboatdrinks 03-06-2007 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by cosmic12 (Post 2048963)
Great then we can start a price war over the only used 33:drink:

My point exactly....

Sydwayz 03-06-2007 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by fountain40icbm (Post 2048926)
You can buy a new 38 Top Gun for around $350,000 with 525's and run 86mph. It was at the Miami Show. So there's a real number price for a Cig. I dont understand why AT cant just post what their boats cost. Is it a big secret or something??

No big secret at all. AT will hand out pricing sheets all day long.

I converse with a LOT of folks on here on OSO, but I refuse to use my friend Steve's bulletin board to market boats in ways I feel are unethical. Once contact is established, its best to take things to a one on one conversation, via phone or email--but not in a public forum.

slboatdrinks 03-06-2007 06:37 PM

Is it just me, or do I hear an echo in here? :rolleyes:

Sydwayz 03-06-2007 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by customryder (Post 2048865)
I did not ask it to be posted...pm me
Thanks,
Jeff

Questions still remain.

Cabin liner or no liner?
AC?
Leatherette interior?
Hot water system?
Intercom?
GPS?
Smartcraft?
Genset?
Swim platform?
Carbon fiber cockpit?
How much paint? Lamborghini Orange, House of Kolors Orange or Dupont Orange?

ActiveThunder 03-06-2007 07:19 PM

To answer the basic question at hand, the 37 with 496 Magnum HOs is $269k, retail. You can change it but just not for free.

There are no large discounts as implied in a few posts. It's felt that a more reasonable and straight forward pricing is favorable to an inflated price with ridiculous discounts.

Kinda like when the wife comes home with $150 jeans bragging they were discounted to $90 and you are scratching your head wondering why your Levis only cost $45 and are twice as big and last three times as long.

Sorry for lack of better sales skills but at the end of the day I try to call it like I see it.

docmanrich37 03-06-2007 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by slboatdrinks (Post 2048972)
Is it just me, or do I hear an echo in here? :rolleyes:

Are you thinking again ?:evilb: :evilb:

cosmic12 03-06-2007 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by docmanrich37 (Post 2049093)
Are you thinking again ?:evilb: :evilb:

LOL I was wondering where you were through all this:rolleyes:

camptappakeg69 03-06-2007 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by slboatdrinks (Post 2048954)
Screw the popcorn. I just came back with 10 Mega Millions tickets. Daddy needs a new 43 AT!! :D

What he said, just got my fistfull........will put one on order tomorrow if it hits, on my way through to a warm carribean
resort:drink:

docmanrich37 03-06-2007 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by cosmic12 (Post 2049098)
LOL I was wondering where you were through all this:rolleyes:

I just started reading this about a hour ago after leaving the A/T factory.Gotta go gets some popcorn,red bull and vodka.Wait just popcorn I drank enough last night at daytona bike week.Might need to cross out week and put day cause thats all I could take.:drink:

slboatdrinks 03-06-2007 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by docmanrich37 (Post 2049093)
Are you thinking again ?:evilb: :evilb:

Thinking? No, just drinking. :drink: :drink:

ACTIVESHACK 03-06-2007 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by slboatdrinks (Post 2048954)
I just came back with 10 Mega Millions tickets. Daddy needs a new 43 AT!! :D

I got a few of those today too :D The 37 will be my Ches. Bay boat and i'll get a new 43 for Florida :cool:


You guys have been busy today. You've totally reinvented the wheel or should i say prop :rolleyes:

RACERBOY 03-17-2007 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by customryder (Post 2045821)
Dealer cost on a new 37? 525s, paint

Just thinking
Jeff

THERE IS ONE DEALER......FAST BOATS L.I.N.Y.516-295-0663 THEY JUST DELIVERED A 37 TO A PA.BUYER

cosmic12 03-17-2007 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by RACERBOY (Post 2061329)
THERE IS ONE DEALER......FAST BOATS L.I.N.Y.516-295-0663 THEY JUST DELIVERED A 37 TO A PA.BUYER

was that the left over demo that got repainted????

RACERBOY 03-22-2007 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by customryder (Post 2045821)
Dealer cost on a new 37? 525s, paint

Just thinking
Jeff

FAST BOATS INC L.I. N.Y. IS A DEALER FOR ACTIVE.
SEVERAL NEW BOATS SCHEDULED FOR SPRING DELIVERY.
516-295-0663.
EASY TO WORK WITH FAIR AND COMPLETE PRICING AND SERVICE.GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FACTORY FOR SPECIAL NEEDS.

Stormrider 03-22-2007 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by RACERBOY (Post 2067434)
FAST BOATS INC L.I. N.Y. IS A DEALER FOR ACTIVE.
SEVERAL NEW BOATS SCHEDULED FOR SPRING DELIVERY.
516-295-0663.
EASY TO WORK WITH FAIR AND COMPLETE PRICING AND SERVICE.GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FACTORY FOR SPECIAL NEEDS.

Are these incoming boats for stock?
Where is Fastboats? street address...


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