28 question?
 

Has Pat built any 28's with, oh say, a 750hp N/A motor and something other than a merc bravo drive? Konrad or IMCO 1000? Will the boat hold up to that much power and drive combo? thx

wasn't one for sale up in the NE w/ big power and a bravo?

One left the factory earlier this year that went to Delaware less power and drive. The owner is still rigging something like 800HP and an Arneson Surface Drive.

Tell me what you want, and lets spec it out. The boat will handle ANYTHING you throw at it. 1000HP would be sick.

very nice.....it will be interesting to see how a surface drive works on the 28.

how docking friendly is a 28' single? I ask cause my parents 29' sea ray w/ single is a handful. granted its a diff hull & a b2, but didnt know how the length effects its low speed maneuvers.

You have to know what you are doing, but it is no different than your 232. Your parents' Sea Ray is a lot more boat to swing around. It has a lot of forward freeboard which catches the wind, and with that additional weight, it will also be very current sensitive. I am speculating, that your parents' Sea Ray also has a Bravo III drive, which is also not the most maneuverable/responsive setup in a single engine at slow speeds. I was on a 28' Donzi Cruiser this weekend, with a single Bravo III drive, and the bow thruster is the shiznit.

I have 2 close friends with 32' BIG HP single engine boats (Sunsations). They are able to manage just fine as well.

What colors to you want Brian? :D

Docking?
 

Very easy if you watch wind and strong currents, weighs alot less than a sea ray-never had twins so I am at a loss there but never had trouble at the dock. vic

I agree with risky. They are very east to dock. I too have never had a twin, until now:p , but I can spot my 28 or back it into a slip very easily.
Now as for the big power question, I think the boat would love a big n/a engine.

If i can get a 600sci (hypothetical) in a 26 baja or a 29 fountain, I expect the same or better in a 28 AT.

Like I said, what color do you want on the boat? 600SCi; no problem. :D

the mrs requires purple grfx. i cant tell from the pics, so how is the cockpit/vbirth room compared to a 29 outlaw? i was wanting something where we could overnight if we had to, then enough room for the girls to watch movies & have their space.

There actually is a color called Thunder Purple Pearl.

Baja's traditionally have a slight bit more cockpit room, but they rob it from the cabin.

Check out these pics on the website:
http://www.activethunderboats.com/28savage.htm
http://www.activethunderboats.com/Savage1.htm
http://www.activethunderboats.com/Savage2.htm
http://www.activethunderboats.com/Savage3.htm
http://www.activethunderboats.com/Savage4.htm
http://www.activethunderboats.com/Savage5.htm
http://www.activethunderboats.com/Savage6.htm
http://www.activethunderboats.com/Savage7.htm

Also, check the pics in this ad:
http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o17114-en.html

You won't find a deeper boat. You are IN the boat, not on it. VERY secure for little ones. The cabin is plenty spacious.

You can take the cabin from mild to wild, depending on what you want. You can have a custom drop in center cushion to go between the opposing couches for extra lounge area. The boat is designed with overnighting in mind. You can have hot water for the shower and AC if you like; porta-potti or pump out head. The girls can have a flatscreen TV/DVD; and it can be wired into the boat's stereo system if so chosen. Standard options include Livorsi premium gauges and billet controls, pop up cleats and more.

AT is a CUSTOM builder. If you want something different, all you have to do is ask. If you want the windscreen higher, the bolster 2" wider, whatever. Its all doable.

A 525EFI in a 28AT will run a solid 75mph, and then some depending on a lot of things. You could be out the door with a LIFETIME warranty on the hull and full 5 year extended warranty on 525EFI/XR for a very attractive price.

The 28 Savage
 

It is just an awsome boat!!! I will be very sad the day mine sells but I am going to a bigger boat...If you get a 28 you will not be disappointed in any aspect, it is a big boat for a 28. I get compliments on it every time I take it out.

You getting a 33 AT? Does the boat have any handling quirks, porpoise, blowout, etc? What does it run with the 525? Hrs on the XR drive?

Sent you a PM
 

Looking for 750HP--Whipple a 525EFI- that would fly.. No quirks handling and rides nice in the chop. I have little kids with me most of the time so I don't get to air it out very much. vic

Don't mean to hi-jack your thread, but I too am looking for a bit of info on the 28 Savage. I currently am running the 26ZX, & have pretty much decided to go a bit bigger. I thought I wanted something with twins, but have since rethought that. I'm looking at the 28-30 foot singles, & have narrowed my search down to the AT 28. I won't be looking to make a move until sometime next year, but I'm looking at how the Savage compares to my 26ZX. I have the 454 mag mpi, so I know right off the bat, it will be faster, but speed is not my #1 thing. I'm looking for safe, well mannered, reliable hull. I've seen where folks have refered to the Savage as a "big" 28, not sure what they mean by that. Where is the extra couple of feet? Is it in the cabin, or the seating area? My Donzi does seem a bit smaller, especially with 4 adults in it. I do like the Donzi, it is a great boat, & it is a very easy boat to work on, especially being that I do 90% of my own work. So, a couple of specific questions about the Savage.....1. How is the ride in rough water, say 3 foot (I usually won't go out any worse than that), the seas here on the Gulf are usually more of a "choppy sea" than rollers. So it's not tough to get beat. The Donzi does well, but it's not a comfortable ride at anything above 45mph. 2. Does it require constant driver feedback to control it? I'm getting more used to driving the Donzi, but it really requires alot of attention so to speak, & that certainly could just be my lack of time driving it, but it certainly doesn't seem to handle as well as my friends 25 Outlaw. 3. How accesible is the engine? The Donzi is configured very well, I can sit right next to it, & reach anything I may need to, plugs, starter, water pumps, everything is very easy to reach. Anyway....I'm just looking for a little input, & what year did the Savage change to how it looks now? I am considering a trip South FL to look a new, but that will be later on.....Thanks in advance for any & all info....

[QUOTE=Sydwayz;2194513]Rick,

I have run next to boatfreak28 in his 28AT (that has a sale pending as we speak) in 3-5s off the coast of Miami.

3-5's? Maybe right when we turned the corner going out of Virginia Cut. Ash and I could not see your boat running next to us unless you were on top. That’s a little higher in my opinion that a little higher than 3-5's. Nonetheless, Mike's 28 was impressive.

The 28 Savage is the best all round boat in the 27 to 30 ft single range that is out there, plain and simple. Drive one in rough or flat and you will not want anything else. I loved mine and may have to have another. Do yourself a favor and get a close look.

It was a VERY sad day when we had to let our 28AT go:( .
We would own another in a heartbeat if we could.
Rough water was never a problem (we had it in 4 of the 5 Great Lakes and the Atlantic too), and it turned heads everywhere we took it. Pat treated us like royalty!
Jim

These are great coments. I am excited at the prospect of building my next boat. Brian, you will be the first person I ring when that time comes.....unless I can get a bigger boat slip, and that aint going to happen. One last question. Is the 28 as hard on bravo drives as, say, a 29 fountain with the same 750 hp?

Do you own your own slip? We leased ours thru port of kimb city & to move up to 36' slip is over double what our 24' slip was. Been a struggle to figure out how to keep a bigger boat down there. Ive only seen private slips in 30' length.

Yes, two 28' slips and one 24' slip. In two different docks. I dont mind if the boat sticks out a bit, but a boat long enough to justify twin motors would just get in the way of stuff IMO. A 28 AT or a 29 fountain would be about perfect for my future needs. Leasing a large slip from a marina isnt an option b/c our cabin is just yrds away from the boat docks right now. I would have to drive pretty far to the next marina which is gage's. Whats your story?

Are you really comparing the A.T. 28 to a 29 Fountian????????? Not possible

No......i probably wont buy another fountain. But it will all depend on the wallet and the wife at that time. I know she likes the looks of the 26 prowler and the 28 AT better.

I LUV my 28AT!! I have a twin 350magMPI boat & the ride should never be compared to a 29' fountain! i can run 55-60 in 3 footers and be comfortable...No chit it is a smooth ride. The boat is deeper, wider & longer than a 29' fountain or baja. In fact it is probably as long as a 32' fountain w/o the beak, or 30 baja w/o swim platform; but rides much better. The cabin is large and pretty nice; microwave, sink, head is a bit tight.

A microwave in a 28 :evilb: j/k.....thats pretty cool. Im sold on one. Pat, i'll take one as equipped on the first post. Im good for it right? You can have my boat.

Oh BTW Brian, What is your neighbor asking for his Donzi? I'm curious as what sort of price tag I should put on it. When I put the for sale sign on it, I want it to sell, but I don't want to give it a way...anyway, thanks

28AT w/496HO=64-66mph; 500efi=71/72mph;525efi=74/75mph & with twin 350's=72 mph(best so far, next year tweaking)
As for the hull change in 04', ask Pat or Cosmic12...I think it got a bit smaller, esp. in the cabin.

http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o17114-en.html

Know much about this boat? I really like how clean it is, looks very well maintained, & that is a huge plus with me. I can apperciate someone who takes care of their boat in that manner...Think upper 60's with the headers? Bout the only turn off, is the steel trailer, but I suppose I'd just have to buy an aluminum one :D (Gulf Coast= Saltwater)

Sorry, I don't...I look thru the classifieds periodically so I am familiar with the ad, that's all. With the CMI's you could see 68mph...boat looks clean and well maintained, will prob. get 52.5-55k for it. I may sell my boat end of season...thinking about 64k.

Thanks, are you selling the one that is pic'd on your profile? I really like that paint scheme, & that is the price range I'm looking at. Send me a few pics & the particulars....I'll be looking towards the end of the year, if you intend to part with it, we may be able to work something out.

Speed!!!!
 

A 496 is not enough to move these boats! I do not want to hurt any feelings here but a speed boat that runs in the 60's gets boring real fast besides most new center consoles and some sea rays will run 60 mph. That is why I upgraded to a 525 and now I am moving up in size and speed. Test drive before you buy it. My 2 cents.... I love this boat but it is time to get in the 30+ size boat and run 85+

Well I know a little about that boat as I owned it for just short of 6 years. The boat just left for its new home this evening. It is a very clean 28 that I enjoyed owning. While I agree that the 28 is a big boat for a 496 it is still a great setup if you want a durable boat that is good on gas and very low maintainance. I put the CMIs on and other than a much better midrange and awesome sound I didn't see much out of them. The boat would run 63-64.

Hence the reason I ask about a 750 N/A. I think 75mph will get boring after a time. The ability to push it quite a bit faster for short bursts is all I want.....w/o stressing the boat. If I could fit and afford a 33 or 37 I would, but I cannot. And i will not buy some west coast low profile crap with a monster motor either.

It's HIGHLY unlikely you'll stress this boat, especially if you are doing your primary boating in inland lake water. I drove a Donzi ZX and a Sonic with Scorps in them prior to buying our Savage (I like twins) and wish that our AT had that Scorp setup, but both felt like driving a potato chip in comparison to the AT, and the rigging was dismal too.
The 350MPI's still did quite an admirable job in our boat. I liked the aggressive X dimension Pat had set up in our boat as well. The rigging was top-notch.
If I were to own another Savage, I'd still opt for twin small-blocks. Since Scorps are history, they'd be from Pfaff or Lingenfelter.
You won't regret owning one of these boats! We hope to have another.

Congratulations on the sale, I do hope the new owner takes the care you, obviously did. It is a very clean boat, & that is exactly what I'll be looking for. I'm not looking for a speed demon, as the MRS. is not real comfy with going real fast, but it's good to have the extra HP if needed.

I've been looking for a nice late model 28. I think they are all gone!

My 28 is for sale....make offers:
1999 28AT w/ 373 hrs, t350magMpi's, Bravo 1's, 4 blade labbed Hydromotive 26.5p, loaded with extras...e-mail me for details:
[email protected]

BTW... we ran the Jammin run and bach to Jordan Point on Sunday, with a stop @ Chippoaks, and never got fuel! Two 50 gallon tanks and had over 3/8 left; that's 200 miles running mostly @ 3500rpm's & over...not bad since most guys with 33's & 37's holding 160 gals+ were stopping for fuel! just an fyi on the sbc's

That is really a great looking boat, thanks for the heads-up...I may have to pull something together a bit earlier than I had planned to :D