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pkspx 10-05-2007 07:11 AM
Originally Posted by jeff1000man (Post 2295313)
Man, it doesn't get better than having a box fan and a portable TV in the bilge with you. :party-smiley-048::Score-101010:
what about the portable bar? :D

Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 2294375)
The only thing that gets tight is getting the inner two rear most spark plugs. Most of the newer stock Mercury motors are 100 hours between plug changes. Rich (Docmanrich37) changed the plugs a LOT on his 37AT after he did the Whipple install, and he could do a full set (16) in less than an hour. Worst case is pulling an engine. James (excursion) has a nice overhead chain hoist in his shop, and can have one of his engines swinging overhead in about 35 minutes; from a 100% dead start.

There is a LOT of room in front of the engines on a side/side 37AT. Plenty of room for sea-strainers built into the floor, and pull your water pumps/impellers right off the front. Fuel/water separators and filters are right in the front of the engine compartment as well. All of the Mercury motors for the past couple years have had oil pan drain tubes for oil changes, so there is no issue there.

I do all of my own work as well, less something that falls under warranty. There is plenty of room to work in the engine compartment of the 37AT.
Looks like from the pics, it isn't that terrible to get around in the engine bay. Thanks for the info. Seriously thinking about an AT. You guys are north of Fort Lauderdale, correct?

THUNDER-STRUCK 10-05-2007 07:33 AM
fact check
 
Originally Posted by fountain40icbm (Post 2295714)
The Donzi 38ZR came from the comp so it was true 38ft boat then the swim step was added. It seems to me that the AT works very well than for whats its lugging around. But the Donzi ZRC which does weigh in close to 9000lbs and no cabin is running 99-100 with 525's. The stagger AT spun and flip right where I boat and I did see it in person. Not a very good boat in my opinion. I would love to get a ride in a 37 AT since ive been in all its competion in all differnt kinds of water and it would be cool to compare.
You listed the ZRC as doing 99-100mph with 525's first the and the ZRC does, but that would not be a fair comparison ie..race setup no cabin no ammenities. The top speed attained by Powerboat magazine testing with a 38ZR with 525's was 91.1 that was also done using a set of Hering props the article is on Donzi's website if you want to take a look.:hitfan:

Knot 4 Me 10-05-2007 07:53 AM
Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 2295596)
staggered has more to do w/ the drives being deeper and closer; therefore both being hooked up more. Plus the cog is moved forward. Also the engines are lower in the boat, keeping the COG lower. Not so much about speed. Its more about the balance.
Lateral stability is also improved with the weight deeper in the boat.

Stormrider 10-05-2007 07:59 AM
Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 2296100)
Lateral stability is also improved with the weight deeper in the boat.
Yes, i stated that in an earlier post. and w/ cog lower, lateral stability is a given. Unless you don't understand physics.
So thanks for clearing that up... and agreeing w/ me.
Plus...I can't keep reiterating the same thing over and over... just for the sake of my post count. :D

ACTIVESHACK 10-05-2007 08:40 AM
Originally Posted by fountain40icbm (Post 2295867)
Why does it matter what my age is?? What other boats have you been in to compare rides??? Im sure im just as much qualified as you are my friend.
I forget how smart we are as teenagers. I remember when i thought i new it all. :Whatever:

Originally Posted by crb76 (Post 2295953)
Come to Key West and I will give you a ride.
If his grades are good his teacher will probally let him. :D

Sydwayz 10-05-2007 08:41 AM
Originally Posted by pkspx (Post 2296057)
... Thanks for the info. Seriously thinking about an AT. You guys are north of Fort Lauderdale, correct?
About 10 minutes from the Fort Lauderdale Airport. 15 if you drive like Pat. Let me know when you are thinking, and I'll make sure Pat or Jay is at the factory to show you around; if I am not there myself.

We'll have two boats in the water at the Miami Boat Show. Also, the 700SCI demo boat will be in the Annapolis, MD, boat show next weekend as well.

Sydwayz 10-05-2007 08:57 AM
Originally Posted by fountain40icbm (Post 2295866)
I was talking about the stagger boat, not the newer ones. I was on the boat when it was at a repo yard and it wasn't really a great boat. It was beat to death and dirty as all get out so it wasnt a good impression. Also the boat did end up spinning and flipping so the stagger must not have worked out well as crb said.
The guys that spun the staggered boat out were BRAND new owners to it; and there were so many beer cans and alcohol amenities around the site that they had to dispatch a clean up detail. That boat went through a few owners from VA to TX for many years, and never had a problem. The last owner before the NY boys left the boat outside uncovered for a couple years. Of course it was beat.

Put a couple drunks in a rowboat, and I'll guarantee they'll f(_)ck it up too.

If you had actually been on an a late model AT, you will know that the boat does not compare to a Donzi ZR. The Donzi ZR is a flat deck low freeboard boat designed as a pleasure derivative of a race boat (ZRC). The AT is a DEEP freeboard lavish cabin boat with comfort, weekending, and trips in mind; and it happens to go fast and perform really fricking amazing too. crb76's boat (525s-37) turned 90.5mph with Herrings that were not even designed for that boat; and still had some RPMs left (borrowed from a Cigarette with 600s). That's mighty impressive.

There's an ass for every seat, and every boat. Donzi has its place in the offshore market. So does Outerlimits, Cigarette, Hustler, Fountain, and all the others. Welcome to America and free enterprise baby.

crb76 10-05-2007 10:03 AM
Originally Posted by ACTIVESHACK (Post 2296160)
I forget how smart we are as teenagers. I remember when i thought i new it all. :Whatever:


If his grades are good his teacher will probally let him. :D
I wonder if he can get extra credit for the ride? :) I dont want to bust his balls to much, I was that 18 year old kid. :)

OL40SVX 10-05-2007 10:38 AM
Originally Posted by THUNDER-STRUCK (Post 2296074)
You listed the ZRC as doing 99-100mph with 525's first the and the ZRC does, but that would not be a fair comparison ie..race setup no cabin no ammenities. The top speed attained by Powerboat magazine testing with a 38ZR with 525's was 91.1 that was also done using a set of Hering props the article is on Donzi's website if you want to take a look.:hitfan:
I was just putting it out there for weight and speed. The ZRC has a new bottom on it and does run those speeds I posted. You are thinking of the old bottom. I know you cant compare the two. Ones a sit down poker run boat and the AT is not.

OL40SVX 10-05-2007 10:41 AM
Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 2296182)
The guys that spun the staggered boat out were BRAND new owners to it; and there were so many beer cans and alcohol amenities around the site that they had to dispatch a clean up detail. That boat went through a few owners from VA to TX for many years, and never had a problem. The last owner before the NY boys left the boat outside uncovered for a couple years. Of course it was beat.

Put a couple drunks in a rowboat, and I'll guarantee they'll f(_)ck it up too.

If you had actually been on an a late model AT, you will know that the boat does not compare to a Donzi ZR. The Donzi ZR is a flat deck low freeboard boat designed as a pleasure derivative of a race boat (ZRC). The AT is a DEEP freeboard lavish cabin boat with comfort, weekending, and trips in mind; and it happens to go fast and perform really fricking amazing too. crb76's boat (525s-37) turned 90.5mph with Herrings that were not even designed for that boat; and still had some RPMs left (borrowed from a Cigarette with 600s). That's mighty impressive.

There's an ass for every seat, and every boat. Donzi has its place in the offshore market. So does Outerlimits, Cigarette, Hustler, Fountain, and all the others. Welcome to America and free enterprise baby.
Right they all do. I was just stating that the 38 ZR is a full 38ft boat unlike what was posted. I doubted the speed of the AT. Everyone has their opinon like you said, we live in America.


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