Yes.

Jeff - that shiny thing is to your RIGHT! But then again you were kind of confused all weekend. It was the lemonade...:drink:

Can't wait to see it. Should be another awesome boat....

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Get behind the wheel of a 28 if you can and you will see a big difference in the ride between an AT and alot of boats out there. Do not shoot me for this but I do like the look of the fountain it is just small in the cockpit and cabin. The 25 OL is nice but not a comparison to be had. vic

Ha Ha Ha :rolleyes: Yes it has been, If you were to join the cult you would get used to it probly even contribute. Getting back on track here, There has to be a 28 somewhere semi close to ya that you could get on and really see the dif. Really the 29 OL is the closest Baja the is to it. Where are you?

Closest 28
 

One in conn. for sale mine is in jersey that is couple hours further, but conn. to michigan not that far...

Conn???? any links???

Suncoast Daves old boat
 

The other one in the classifieds, with the yellowish paint.

My old o6 is in Niagra Falls area

Get used to it. :D

Nothing like trying to build an AT, post serious questions about it, and have thread after thread go off into netherland. :rolleyes:

Gotta love this place! :cool-smiley-011:

I think that is SunCoast Daves old boat. I didn't know it was in Conn:D

Cosmic
 

That is a sweet looking boat--hope to see you in one again soon..So this can't be called a thread-jack----DO NOT PICK A BAJA OVER AN ACTIVE THUNDER THAT WOULD BE JUST WRONG......

He sold it to this guy in Conn.
 

I guess it sold a year ago and is up again, nice looking boat, but your paint was nicer looking....

I live in mid-michigan, currently working in raleigh, NC area. A ride in an AT would be great. Anyone on this thread know the owner of the '04 yelllow in classifieds?

Contact Spiiman on the board I think he is in N.C. somewhere. His is one of only 2 twin small block 28s built, but you can get a very good idea of what they are like by looking at his. I'm sure he would be happy to show it.

Baja Man, I am in N Raleigh/WF area and would be glad to give you a showing anytime. If you are still working here in March, we can go for a ride. I just winterized 2 weeks ago. Plus, the lake is EMPTY!! Worst drought in recorded history.

The owner is kicking around the idea of a 33AT. He is a super nice guy. Is he not responding to the contact info in the ad? If not, let me know.

The boat was previously owned by another OSO member, who put the custom paint on it. It had similar coloring to the 2005 28AT in the classifieds. Its an original 525EFI boat. There are some old threads about it during the paint stages; about 18-24 months go. I think the previous owner is/was Suncoastdave or similar. You will have to pony up to OSO to view the pics in the thread though.

Is there anything else I can answer for you? Let me know.

[QUOTE=R Addiction;2353381]Thats funny....:D:D

I rarely see custom v-hulls in front of my Baja for long, and certainly none with only 525 power!:D:D

However, although I rave about the qualities of the 25OL, which is designed to tick as many of the boxes of fast boat customers looking for a dealer supported brand, I too have looked admiringly at the AT28.
It does look like an offshoreboat should, and the extra length in this single engined weight class is a big bonus.

A 29 single Baja isn´t a good comparison because it is alot bulkier (but has alot more space in the cabin) and wouldn´t see much above 70 mph with one 525.

One of the features of the 25OL that I´ve really come to appreciate is the driving position. Whether seated or standing, the relationship from bolster to wheel, throttles and footrest is well thought out and helps to make handling the boat driven fast in rough conditions a joy. Many older Cigs and Apaches appear to have the wheel in the same low, but vertical postion as the AT28, but I still can´t follow the logic of it.

I take it you don´t drive sitting down at all. I always sit when driving fast as I feel that I have more "seat of pants" contact with the boat and my hands can more freely control steering throttles and trims.
I´m sure you´ll admit that 75 mph + in a sub 5000 pound boat calls for active driving, whether it is an AT or a Baja.

I agree the 29 isn't really a good comparison, but it is closer to the 28 A.T. than the 25. You are correct a single 29 would not be much of a performance boat. Hence my point that there really is nothing out there to compare it to, it really is a stand alone boat and that in it self is a great thing. As I have said before you won't have to see another one at every place you go. I always sit when driving and was very happy with the way the helm was on my A.T.s. The only time I stood up was to dock or when I wanted wind in my face because the faring and screen worked a little to good,and my knees are shot from standing up to much in other brands and getting beat the death. Never had to worry about trim, for the drive it was on my thumb and when it was set it pretty much stayed that way and I never needed the tabs, only if I had to many or to heavy people on one side or the other. Active driveing? well I really don't know what you mean by that. If messing with trim and tab or have to constantly correct steering, well that tells me you are in the wrong boat. Every Baja I have driven has been a handful and not at all enjoyable. I said it before and stand by it, Baja builds a nice boat for the masses and for the price. Some of us just know better.:ernaehrung004:

What does a new 25OL cost with a 525EFI?

Can't get a price on there web site. $74,900.00 for base boat w/496 bravo and its a 26 now. It looks to me as though if you put the right stuff with a 525 xr and a trailer you might be close to the 28 A.T. Like I said I could not get prices beyound base boat but the option list is long.:rolleyes:

AT vs. Baja
 

Well said Cos

BUT, I think the 29 is very close in size & weighs a bit more; but w/twin sb's goes 60-62. Baja 30' w/496 HO's hits 70-71. I don't think the cabin is bigger in a Baja 29; slightly longer but not quite the headroom...real close in cu.ft. Neither the 29 or 30 is a single engine hull; the AT can move with single bb or twin sb's. my.02

They made a few single BBC 29' Outlaws. They were made in the late '90s/early 2000/2001-ish timeframe, and are primarily located around LOTO/Missouri.

All THAT being said, I am still helping my neighbor sell his super clean Baja 25' Outlaw. He wants an AT. :D

http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o17835-en.html
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...d.php?t=162393

I've driven a 252, 272, 25 Outlaw, and most recently my friend's 33 Outlaw. All 4 boats drove just fine...not at all a handful. In fact, the 33 Outlaw almost drives too "vanilla" for my liking. Now my friend's 259 Checkmate can be a handful...

so lets take 15% dicscount and add 16K for the 525EFI XR. So lets say you can buy one for 80-82K. Not even close to the cost of a 28AT. You get what you pay for.

You really think 16k for the 525xr? Even at that when you add all the other stuff I believe you would be in the mid 90s and that is getting close to the 28 but still not there yet. Like I said there really is nothing out there to compare it to evenly.

I have driven 20--24--27--29--and ridden in a 32 and from my experince they are all VERY close to what we call THE CHECKMATE SHUFFLE up here:D By the way whats up with that hook that is at the transom of every Baja I have ever looked at???

Last year on a 37 it was ~32K to go from 496HO's to 525EFI's. One 525EFI would be ~ half. ~45K difference in price for two more feet and a much nicer custom boat with great hardware, graphics, and top three fit and finish. I know you can get the 27 Donzi for ~85K with the 525EFI XR package.

I would like some thoughts here from the people in the single engine market. For those who are in the market today, what are you willing to pay for a new single engine 525EFI boat?

I am very curious.

Maybe we should start a thread in the gen on that subject and see what happens. I still cannot think of anything out there to really compare it to though. It sure isn't a 27 Donzi:ernaehrung004:

I am still trying to figure out the 81+ mph on a 25 OL with a 525!:rolleyes:

Me Too!!

I have seen a lot of his other posts. There is ALOT more to that boat than just a 525. X dim changed I think, a box alot of prop work. He has a really nice setup but a ton of $ into it.

That helps explain it. I've been around a few stock 25s, and one with blowers that would not touch that speed on that power.

And keep it under controll, I want to be way far away from that one:eek:

Powerboat magazine Jan 2005 ran the 30 with HO´s at 76 mph through the radar. And many powerboat test numbers can be better, particularly on production boat, ´cos the manufacturers just don´t dial the damn things in beforehand!

81 mph?
Baja quotes 75 mph for the 525 powered 25OL. Baja´s run conservative x dimensions (6 1/2" prop to pad) on all their boats (which is just fine on lower powered 65 mph massmarket examples). The 25OL has a notched transom, which really doesn´t do much when the prop is buried deep below it..... but add a an 3" raised extension box, a good prop and the whole thing comes alive. Sure, that figure is acheived on nice choppy water, which a fat non step hulls need to get aired out. There is NO hook on my hull. Just two little built in tabs on the outer strakes. At 80 mph, they are pretty dry.
Sticky flat water heavy air days are at 78 mph. But which one of you quotes you slowest top speed when asked:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I´ll happily take your word on it that the AT28 is the better boat and actually I don´t think (that with Baja´s greedy pricing on blue upgrades) a 26 with a 525 is´possibly similarly priced to the AT. I built mine up myself, for alot less!

This is a Baja. But it´s not grandpa´s bowrider for sure:D:D
There is pretty much nóthing stock left on it and it runs like a raceboat.
What I meant to say in my previous post is that blue powered Baja´s are not good value because the upgrade price is way too high. Baja just doesn´t appear to be interested in that market, which is a shame because they sometimes get it so right.

However before I get beaten up by one of you gentle folk, I promise to go looking for an AT28 next time I´m over in the US so I can make a qualified judgement like those of you who have experienced both boats.:cool-smiley-011:

Nice Baja. The 30' must have had 496Mags, not HO's. The owner was in the boat & we were in my 28AT. People always come over to talk when you have an Active Thunder; they are pretty rare in some parts. He told me his boat went 70-71mph wot, it may have been a few years older.

It suely looks as though it Rocks......an ROLLS......... The A.T. runs and flys flat and true although it only ran mid 70s stone stock no nothing speacial outa the box

I own a 28 AT with a 525
 

But I gotta say that is a pretty sweet baja you got there!