28AT vs 25OL
 

I've been kickin around the idea of a new boat next year and really like the lines of the Baja Outlaw series. The AT has caught my attention though. How would a 28 equiped with 496HO w/Raylar perform? I do understand production vs custom, but there is alot more variety and competitve pricing with the OL's. If I could find an AT that really caught my eye during the search, I would not hesitate for a second to purchase. But as the handling aspect, are these two boats similiar to anyone who has some seat time?

What kind of 496HO Raylar package are you talking about?

A late model 28AT will run 74-75mph with a 525EFI drive.
It will run about 63-65mph with a stock 496HO.

Comparing the two boats you mention is really not applicable. The 28AT is just shy of a full 28 feet of boat. Not like a 28 Nordic, 288 Sunsation, 29 Fountain, etc which all get their additional length via molded in swim platforms; but are all 26-ish foot long boats. Its like comparing a 1/2 ton Chevy/gas motor to a 3/4 ton Chevy/Duramax. One is meant to do be advantageous compared to the other, by classification of size and design.

The 28AT will handle rougher water better than a 25 Baja. The 28AT also carves turns like a go-kart, and flies/lands very well. The cabin will be bigger as well. You are also going to be DEEP in a 28AT's freeboard while in the cockpit, as opposed to any of the Baja offerings with comparatively shallower cockpits. This will also give you and your passengers a greater feeling of security in rougher water.

If you have the means to get the bigger boat, by all means do so. It will combat the onset of "4-foot-itis", and you can always add more HP to a boat, but you can't stretch its length.

Keep your eyes peeled in this forum and the OSO classifieds for a "Holiday Special" pricing on a new 28AT.

I will have to agree with Brian on all of that and I just came out of 6 yrs in a 28. :cool:

A/T verses baja :rolleyes:

Well where do I start? I had a 24 OL and I hated it, didn't feel safe or comfertable. Sold it just as fast as I could. I looked long and hard for a true offshore style boat ( I am very old school ) But wanted a single, there just isn't many out there to chose from I even tried Profile, biggest mistake I have ever made, had the look and space but it was just junk.... Then I went back to my original idea and got my 28 A.T. and never looked back, it has it all handleing, cabin, freeboard and style and you don't have to see another one every time you go out ( that was a big deal to me). Baja makes a nice boat for the mass'es the question is are you one of them? Find a 28 A.T. drive it and really look at it you won't want anything else. Besides you get to be a cult member and come on here and join the banter.

:D

Really now...a better comparison would be a 29 OL, but then you are into twins. But might as well go there. That's what happened with my 27 Baja. It got quickly traded up to a 34.

Oh hell, and I hoping Outerlimits came out with a 25...........

There is no comparison between the two. The 28 A.T. is twice the boat the 25 outlaw is, but don't take my word for it - post this in the baja forum and I gaurantee you they will all agree.

Had a Baja 272. Fun boat for the lakes/rivers and the price is right for newer models. The ride was not good in rougher water and handling got tougher as I pumped up the speed. Also, I do not feel like I got the speed increases with the Baja with extra HP like other boats respond.

Also had gelcoat blisters where the hull rested on the trailer bunks, NO help from Baja. I'll never own another one.

AT is a much better boat. Be different. Not a lot of Thunders out there, always a conversation piece.

Here, have a sip of Koolaid. Just one. Good boy.

A 28 AT is much more comparable to a 29 Outlaw. They did make 29 OL's with singles. A friend of mine had one with a 454mag/385 hp. It would top out in the 53mph range.

There was a '99 or so 29 Outlaw at LOTO with a single 7.4MPI (310 HP) for sale a few years back. Bet that baby couldn't get out of its own way. Anyway, I agree with the 28AT and 25OL not being very comparable.

I agree also, it's like comparing my 43 Nor-Tech to a 43 Sunsation.
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Good one jass i agree 100%

A 28 AT and a 29 outlaw isn't even a fair comparision so comparing it to a 25 is a joke, "sorry must be the champagne talking"

:evilb::evilb:Good one Rick.

Please don't compare my boat to a Bahaugh!

I understood that it was not an equal comparrison before I started this but was just trying to get another opinion from a 28 owner. Sydwayz, I appreciate your knowledge and help of the product line, more posts like that from other owners would be very helpful. I would really like to get a sea trial in one but unfortunately there are no dealers or "for sales" at this time in my area. A 29OL was really out of questions due to twin motors. I have posted on Baja sites and they have great thinks to say about AT but it really all comes down to personal preference and usage. I have seen a few here on OSO classified , the yellow '04 in there now, which I like but really need some seat time to make an educated decision.

A second question: Are AT and Sonic realated in anyway?

The answer to that is no.

My first boat was an 88 Baja 240 Sport. A little before the Outlaw line, but in my opinion, a better hull.

That being said, my 2nd boat was a 28 AT. The difference was night and day. You owe to yourself to check out a 28 AT and go for a ride. Do this after you've been in the 25 Outlaw. You'll never look back.

[QUOTE=slboatdrinks;2353366] You'll never look back.[/QUOTE

I look back all the time....wondering where all the bajas are:D

Except Jims Junk from the Chick.....:eek:

Thats funny :drink:

:eek: :eek: :eek: There goes your Christmas card from MP!! :drink:

The downside of the 28 AT will be a lack of boats to choose from. Just not many out there for sale. If you decide to buy new then you have to consider there is no dealer network for AT. This doesn't matter to some folks (such as myself) but would matter to others.

Just wanted to let you know that the Sunsation 288 has an LOA of 28'8" and a wet surface of 27'8". Not a true wet 28 but very close.
The AT 28 is a really awsome boat. I have seen a few and have been really impressed. I may be a bit biast but I do love the Sunsations.

Well if you want to get technical - the AT is not a true 28ft either - 27'10", but who really cares. Thats close enough for me.

Gee, I wonder what Rick posted then deleted.....?:D

Probably something about a sprint back to Still Pond from Jellyfish Joels.......:drink:

28 vs 25?
 

The 28 AT is great I have a 28, if you want to compare the 29 fountain, velocity 280, baja 29, pantera 28 would be a better comparison, looked at them all drove most and bought a 28 AT w/o test drive best choice I could have made. No need for a dealer network it is fiberglass with a mercury motor, any good marina can service.

LOL :D Wasnt getting too technical. Just didnt want to get called out if I said it was a true 28 :)

So much going on here lately, I just dont know if I can keep up with you all :drink:

BTW you still have it beat by 2", and in some areas of life thats a lot :evilb:

Tom

Risky, Are you still parting with your Savage?:cool-smiley-011:

Yes it is for sale!!
 

I have 2 people coming this week-end to look--I am going to get a small bow-rider for the family for now...My dream is a 33AT with 525's!!!! Right now I am doing head work and cam on my car....nitrous is next

Cool!! Looking for heads and an cam setup for a 509 Big Block I have in mind......:cool-smiley-011:

Got to have a winter project
 

Trying to get up to mid 400's HP on the car...I wish my 525 was a drop in! My wife said we needed a wagon so I got one ...she was not happy

Your killin me man.:grinser010:

I guess there are sissy boats, which I have. And there are sissy drivers, that need a 7.5 ton boat and 6 drives so they can pretend they are driving a boat, but really they are hanging their left arm around their wife's shoulder and their right arm is resting on the side of the boat!:evilb:

I won't bother to comment on what some other posts say here - since you and I and K4M know the real skinny on these boats. Hope you still have this boat when Juicy and I come down this spring - because the next one won't be done by then!

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Jass, I called UPS to tell them not to deliver that 55 gallon drum of V-twin. But in case it arrives - just stick a "return to sender" sticker on it please.

Thanks.....:angry-smiley-038:

Oh yeah- i decided to give this picture to you and Sandy instead.....

Mentalpause
 

If I can interupt the banter that is a nice boat that you have is the pic of yours? Vic

We need the 1st 43 A/T to settle this dispute.:D

Hey, whats that shiney thing to my left:grinser010:

Hurry up and send it, I want to get it to BOATME and get it framed with a bunch of other pics so as to display them in my boat garage.

Do I detect a bit of a battle between 2 non cult members over 2 non cult boats on a cult boat thread? Has there been a leak of the cool aid from a majic cooler somewhere? :rolleyes:

LMAF

Its coming. 43AT #1 already has an owner.
The rest is top secret. :drink: