All that for a 31 foot boat!!:Whatever:

All said, as Fountains go it was a nice looking piece.

True just a ridiculous price. That's more money than one of our fellow club members paid new for his 06 38 Cig TG.

What show is that ?

It was a small show in Richmond this past weekend.

Was that the show/sale price or the retail?

Retail

Ok then, At the risk of being ousted from the cult (not defending Fountian eather) What is Pats retail for a 33 with 525s? Presonaly I think they are all out of controll and yes I understand costs an all but something has gotta give here. When you see some of the price's on new or used Cigs N.t.OL or some of the cats all I can do is shake my head in wonder and amasement. What will next year bring? P.S. you guys know I am a die hard A.T. guy but I just can't understand any of it.

$325K list with all the bells, 525s, paint, trailer--loaded; Retail List.

You can't take a boat of this caliber to market by pricing/building it cost-up. You have to do it list down. There was a lengthy thread about this some time ago. Costs change EVERY DAY, so aiming high on the retail is really the only way to do it. Whether you end up paying 3, 6, 9, 12, 14, or whatever points off of list depends on exactly how, when, and where that deal goes down. The more nosebleed you make the list, the more you can monkey around with discount.

Yup I know. And I know the game that is played with all the #s. I just see it getting worse and worse, where will it end? The market has already shut out a largest percentage of buyers out there. I wounder what the #s really are now of funded buyers at shows compared to dreamers ( like me :D ) What is it 1 in 10 - 1 in 20 - 1 in 30 ?? From what I see all over in my travels it just isn't getting any better. Maybe by posting that price Fountian is just weeding out the rail rubbers ,or its more of Reggies hype, we all know that boat can be bought for 150 - 185 range, and thats way to much.