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dennis1009 12-11-2009 05:43 PM

28 AT Savage vs Velocity 290SC
 
The time has come. I know two different hulls,but quality vs quality? The Velocity has a 496ho will do a solid 72 or 73 on gps. The Savage has a 525 and will run about the same. has anyone here owned both? I know the Savage will handle big water much better just wanting all the info before I pull the trigger as this saga has been going on for a couple of months now I have all the pieces in place to purchase. The Savage is a 2006 the Velocity is an 08. any info will be helpful.I do most of my running in the gulf sw fla area and occasionally in the Keys. Thanks.

ActiveThunder 12-11-2009 05:53 PM

Have you test driven both?

Sydwayz 12-11-2009 07:06 PM

Both are great boats. However, you will appreciate the AT over the Velocity the instant you get into a bit of rough water.

Which 2006 Savage are you looking at?

dennis1009 12-11-2009 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3004593)
Both are great boats. However, you will appreciate the AT over the Velocity the instant you get into a bit of rough water.

Which 2006 Savage are you looking at?

The one Cosmic had.

cosmic12 12-11-2009 10:43 PM

I looked at the Velocity's and liked them alot as far as the deep cockpit and the cabin but after watching them run and talking to a few people I went A.T. as you know.
What they say about the rough water handling is very true and the Vol is a Pad boat that gets kinda scary at high speeds they are a boat you have to be on your toes all the time.
Believe me get that Savage you will never look back, unless you are looking back at all the Pad boats you will be passing in the rough.
Pad boats are faster for sure untill you get in the sloop and they will be backing off as you just keep going.

Good Luck I hope you get it, and by the way have you looked long and hard at resale?

slboatdrinks 12-12-2009 08:12 AM

Given your boating location, I'd say hands down the AT.

Macklin 12-12-2009 09:01 AM

Good friend of mine has a 290. Beats him to death in the Ches Bay slop.

risky 12-15-2009 07:29 PM

I would say A/T
 
I looked at and drove a velocity 280 but bought a 28 Savage, I liked the ride better, however, in this economy if the velocity is cheaper I might consider it..

AIR TIME 12-15-2009 11:42 PM

I don't own either but have driven velocity and been in the ATs. you are better with the AT its more forgiving boat to drive better rough water ride also feel its bigger true 28 no fg swimplatform. the 290 is a drivers boat there a pain to keep on the pad, rougher ride smaller boat. now about motors someone said you were better with the 496 WHAT A JOKE:lolhit::lolhit::lolhit:, THE 496 IS A PRODUCTION MOTOR THAT HAS HAD PROBLEMS:picard1:, Thats why merc is bring in a new motor to REPLACE IT for 2010 a 502. a 525 blue motor is a HAND BUILT MOTOR that makes on the average a true 550 to 560hp will last a long time with new valve springs between 250 to 500 hours, I have heard of people going that long. the blue motor is that much better. now if you want the badest 28 buy a SABER 28:party-smiley-004: JUST KIDDING there hard to find and I just bought one I am putting a KONRAD ACE DRIVE and DEAN GELLNER 572 BLOWER MOTOR in it. which has no pad. and my last boat of 19yrs has a pad a baja 24ol with 650hp and most pad boats want to chinewalk over 75mph unless you have full hyd steering, oh I bet the AT has the steering option with the 525 motor. and yes I am the guy who sent you the PM, I didn't want to hurt anyones feelings on the velocity forum. and don't want to see you make a mistake so buy the AT and enjoy yourself plus after a few seasons of going mid 70s if you want to up grade your motor you can easy, but with the 425ho you need all new guts inside where the 525= with a blower add on your at 750 to 800hp. a cam/intake/carb/heads your at 725hp.or up grade the efi/cam/heads your at 750hp all stuff DEAN DOES WELL. GOOD LUCK and keep us posted same money AT 28 525 with a B BLADES custom prop maybe 76 to 77 mph.

dennis1009 12-16-2009 12:01 AM

I respect all the comments just looking for opinions and yes I am leaning towards the A T as I really like the 525 along with the I T S and XR drive. Also I understand and know the Velocity hull is much faster and more efficient,But drag it out to the slop and wave bye bye. Trying my hardest to make the AT deal just a little more attractive to me. the seller has been working with me to make this deal work. My biggest concern is the up keep of the 525 and all the CMI issues I have been hearing about.

AIR TIME 12-16-2009 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by dennis1009 (Post 3006635)
I respect all the comments just looking for opinions and yes I am leaning towards the A T as I really like the 525 along with the I T S and XR drive. Also I understand and know the Velocity hull is much faster and more efficient,But drag it out to the slop and wave bye bye. Trying my hardest to make the AT deal just a little more attractive to me. the seller has been working with me to make this deal work. My biggest concern is the up keep of the 525 and all the CMI issues I have been hearing about.

the headers have had issues here and there, theres a lot more that are fine you see issues cause theres 30,000 people on OSO:coolcowboy:.:party-smiley-004: a friend of mine has the e tops and will not flush them until he is done for the season:eek::eek:.they are going on 5 or 6 yrs and he thought he had a leak but did not it was a head gasket. but did have a weld leak on the out side last yr. so for non flushing thats great. me I flush my stainless marine everytime I use my boat. on my new I went hardin marine big tube hurricane headers cause of the blower but got them as much as sm gen 3s plus tails. that motor you will up grade before you need to do any work. I found myself changing motors 454 to 502 after3yrs then every two yrs later I upped the horse power before it was needed instead of changing boats . hope you go with the AT 28. art :coolcowboy:

ActiveThunder 12-16-2009 06:45 PM

QUOTE=dennis1009;3006635]Also I understand and know the Velocity hull is much faster and more efficient,But drag it out to the slop and wave bye bye. [/QUOTE]

I have to disagree with the faster, more efficient comment. You have apples and oranges.

Let's start with two boats that are the exact same wetted length and then make them weigh the same.

Then give me a GPS and let me drive both!

boatfreak 12-16-2009 07:02 PM

[/QUOTE]Then give me a GPS and let me drive both![/QUOTE]

I've seen you with a GPS and quite frankly it's scary.:eek::drink:

ActiveThunder 12-16-2009 07:16 PM

Then give me a GPS and let me drive both![/QUOTE]

I've seen you with a GPS and quite frankly it's scary.:eek::drink:[/QUOTE]

piss off and then call me tomorrow.

You will never believe what happened to my phone now.

slboatdrinks 12-16-2009 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 3007004)
Then give me a GPS and let me drive both!

I've seen you with a GPS and quite frankly it's scary.:eek::drink:[/QUOTE]

piss off and then call me tomorrow.

You will never believe what happened to my phone now.[/QUOTE]

You need a cell phone warning system installed on your fork lift.

ACTIVESHACK 12-16-2009 08:59 PM


I've seen you with a GPS and quite frankly it's scary.:eek::drink:
I remember that afternoon :lolhit:

REMEDY 12-16-2009 11:39 PM

So, let me guess... you ran over the phone?!!!

Sydwayz 12-16-2009 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by blowntaylor (Post 3007169)
So, let me guess... you ran over the phone?!!!

Again?

outriggers 12-17-2009 09:02 AM

Then give me a GPS and let me drive both![/QUOTE]
Why did I think Pat will won't hold back.

risky 12-20-2009 06:06 PM

Which boat did you get??
 
Did you decide yet?

R Addiction 12-21-2009 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 3006987)
QUOTE=Then give me a GPS and let me drive both!


LMAO! My wife is still impressed with our sea trial (almost 11 years ago!) with Pat driving. Remember that one Pat.....left=right:eek::lolhit:

dennis1009 12-29-2009 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by risky (Post 3008997)
Did you decide yet?

Yes decesion is made I am going with Cosmics old 2006 Savage. We will hopefully complete the deal in the next week or two. The weather in the Buffalo area has been really bad that is where the boat is located and I am in fla. So as soon as we get a break in the weather we will make the transaction. I am very excited. Keep the pics and info flowing. The A .T. site is by far the best site with the best members. I cant wait to be part of the cult. See some of you hopefully in Miami at the boat show. Thanks.

R Addiction 12-29-2009 10:37 AM

Thunder Run Key Largo Grande Docks

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...nderRun023.jpg

Padraig 12-29-2009 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by dennis1009 (Post 3013732)
Yes decesion is made I am going with Cosmics old 2006 Savage. We will hopefully complete the deal in the next week or two. The weather in the Buffalo area has been really bad that is where the boat is located and I am in fla. So as soon as we get a break in the weather we will make the transaction. I am very excited. Keep the pics and info flowing. The A .T. site is by far the best site with the best members. I cant wait to be part of the cult. See some of you hopefully in Miami at the boat show. Thanks.

Congrats, even though you decided on the wrong boat. :evilb:

I am about 1.5 hours from Buffalo so if I can help, give me a shout.

Remember, much of Western NY (Buffalo) weather is lake effects and therfore very local. An hour south can be very different.

R Addiction 12-29-2009 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by Padraig (Post 3013807)
Congrats, even though you decided on the wrong boat. :evilb:

Wrong boat for what? :evilb::drink:

boatfreak 12-29-2009 09:27 PM

Hey John this whole thread is about a 28 and you post a pic from the Thunder run of 3 37s and 2 33s. I think there was a 28 on that run too.:coolcowboy::drink:

R Addiction 12-29-2009 09:53 PM

My Bad!!
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...nderRun028.jpg

R Addiction 12-29-2009 09:58 PM

........http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...Run2007160.jpg

boatfreak 12-29-2009 09:59 PM

Thats better.:ernaehrung004: Wow I've not even seen that boat in a while.

R Addiction 12-29-2009 09:59 PM

Great Day!!

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...nderRun034.jpg

boatfreak 12-29-2009 10:07 PM

WOW I've not seen that last shot.
To keep this thread on track, you will be very happy you picked the A.T.

dennis1009 12-29-2009 10:59 PM

:Score-101010:

dennis1009 12-29-2009 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by R Addiction (Post 3014161)
Wrong boat for what? :evilb::drink:

I was also looking at a Velocity 290sc.

R Addiction 12-30-2009 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by dennis1009 (Post 3014258)
I was also looking at a Velocity 290sc.


I'm just a pot stirrer:lolhit::drink:

cosmic12 12-30-2009 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by dennis1009 (Post 3014258)
I was also looking at a Velocity 290sc.

Believe me, you made the correct choice.
Any time frame yet? The weather up here isn't so good and I know I wouldn't want to towing in it:eek:
Gotta be kill'n ya.

dennis1009 01-06-2010 06:23 PM

I am really starting to go crazy waiting on this boat :angry-smiley-038:. The weather gods have to give me a break. More pics please. thanks for posting all these beautiful photos. Cant wait to see some of you at the Miami boat show. take care.

dennis1009 01-06-2010 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by boatfreak (Post 3014193)
Hey John this whole thread is about a 28 and you post a pic from the Thunder run of 3 37s and 2 33s. I think there was a 28 on that run too.:coolcowboy::drink:

I am thankful to see any A T pics. Thanks to all for posting.

R Addiction 01-06-2010 09:39 PM

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boatfreak 01-06-2010 10:16 PM

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Before I owned her but still my favorite pic.

boatfreak 01-06-2010 10:23 PM

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Thunder Run Jan.08


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