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rssteiny 08-18-2010 06:40 PM

How does the steped 37 run on pure flat water at high speeds over 80, any porpoise or chine issues. I know they love the chop and rough stuff 2nd to none, but just wondered about pure flat water do to the fact that is what i boat on 80% of the time. My 32 runs up to 90mph glued to the flat water, and next step up will be a 37 someday.

audacity 08-18-2010 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by rssteiny (Post 3185489)
How does the steped 37 run on pure flat water at high speeds over 80, any porpoise or chine issues. I know they love the chop and rough stuff 2nd to none, but just wondered about pure flat water do to the fact that is what i boat on 80% of the time. My 32 runs up to 90mph glued to the flat water, and next step up will be a 37 someday.

stick with what u got! LOL

bring the boat to me and i am SURE there is 3-5mph in the bottom that is now jacked for sure! there is a ton of stuff we can do and with the engines you have to prob hit the 100mph mark w/o adding power!

laszlo01 08-18-2010 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by audacity (Post 3185506)
stick with what u got! LOL

bring the boat to me and i am SURE there is 3-5mph in the bottom that is now jacked for sure! there is a ton of stuff we can do and with the engines you have to prob hit the 100mph mark w/o adding power!

Bottom is straight & no need for bottom work what so ever, built very solid and correct from the factory, boat ran a solid 89 with stock 525's. Will be going up in pitch and down in Diam as well as a few other things, these where just for baseline #'s as well as see where it likes to plane at. The 100 + mark is just around the corner, just taking our time and setting it up correct. Looks like a 15" Diam is the next step and pitch to run at 5800 ish.

Rssteiny, I run our 37 in Lake erie most of the time and flat water at 80+ the boat carries the bow very nice and is stable as can be, the pic in my avatar is lake erie flat water day running 85 mph full fuel and you can see how it carries the bow nicely, zero porpoise and I have never had a chine issue with the 525 setup, just dialing in the props for the new power now, but it is running awesome for sure.

audacity 08-18-2010 08:59 PM

talking about rssteiny's boat. bottom work is speed. it's all how much time you want to spend on it! never seen a bottom that couldn't use it!!! doesn't matter if you spend 1/2 mil on a hull, it still needs work. even the 100's of hours i have spent on one hull we always could and would do more after the race weekend.

ps...how u store your boat makes a HUGE difference in the bottom!

laszlo01 08-18-2010 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by audacity (Post 3185626)
talking about rssteiny's boat. bottom work is speed. it's all how much time you want to spend on it! never seen a bottom that couldn't use it!!! doesn't matter if you spend 1/2 mil on a hull, it still needs work. even the 100's of hours i have spent on one hull we always could and would do more after the race weekend.

ps...how u store your boat makes a HUGE difference in the bottom!

OOPS just seen that. LOL

rssteiny 08-19-2010 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by audacity (Post 3185506)
stick with what u got! LOL

bring the boat to me and i am SURE there is 3-5mph in the bottom that is now jacked for sure! there is a ton of stuff we can do and with the engines you have to prob hit the 100mph mark w/o adding power!

Maybe this winter joe for some bottom mph.

aabaroni 08-19-2010 08:29 AM

how should you store it

crb76 08-19-2010 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by aabaroni (Post 3185995)
how should you store it

I am a big fan of bottom work. I have seen some amazing gains.

Macklin 08-21-2010 07:54 AM

Laszlo, what conditions were you running in to get 89 out of those 29's? The 30's I have on now are damn near perfect...just need to remember not to trim to the moon like I am used to doing with the Bravos. Actually was bumping the rev limiter last weekend running up river to the first card stop, but didn't even think to trim it down. :lolhit:

Best I have seen in HHH conditions under load is 85.3 and suspect an easy 86...once I learn how to run them. Exactly what I was hoping for in these conditions. Probably at least a couple more clicks in fall air with light load of fuel.

Love the way these props perform overall.

laszlo01 08-21-2010 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Macklin (Post 3187479)
Laszlo, what conditions were you running in to get 89 out of those 29's? The 30's I have on now are damn near perfect...just need to remember not to trim to the moon like I am used to doing with the Bravos. Actually was bumping the rev limiter last weekend running up river to the first card stop, but didn't even think to trim it down. :lolhit:

Best I have seen in HHH conditions under load is 85.3 on dead calm water, but ran out of room and suspect an easy 86. Exactly what I was hoping for in these conditions. Probably at least a couple more clicks in fall air with light load of fuel.

Love the way these props perform overall.

Souds like you are right on, we would run 85-86 full fuel and loaded up and light load 1-2 chop best was 89 mph, tried our best for 90 but could not make it, the hydros liked neutral to 2 clicks north on the drives with bravos and neutral tabs for length from our experience, glad you like them. We are working with Hydro now on some custom 5 blades so we can keep a high X get on plane and top end. Enjoy the new wheels.

Macklin 08-21-2010 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by laszlo01 (Post 3187490)
Souds like you are right on, we would run 85-86 full fuel and loaded up and light load 1-2 chop best was 89 mph, tried our best for 90 but could not make it, the hydros liked neutral to 2 clicks north on the drives with bravos and neutral tabs for length from our experience, glad you like them. We are working with Hydro now on some custom 5 blades so we can keep a high X get on plane and top end. Enjoy the new wheels.

Great! Was hoping you were going to say that.

Yep, I was about 3 - 4 clicks past nuetral on the drives. :party-smiley-004:

laszlo01 08-23-2010 02:13 PM

My one off Kustom Hydro P5X's are on the way, will see how they run.

customryder 08-23-2010 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by laszlo01 (Post 3188872)
My one off Kustom Hydro P5X's are on the way, will see how they run.

well .. I can give you a guess..??

laszlo01 08-23-2010 08:59 PM

Starting to find the sweet spot now, got cruise and plane dialed in.

kreed 08-27-2010 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by audacity (Post 3185506)
stick with what u got! LOL

bring the boat to me and i am SURE there is 3-5mph in the bottom that is now jacked for sure! there is a ton of stuff we can do and with the engines you have to prob hit the 100mph mark w/o adding power!

Hello, do you work on all boat bottoms? A friend of mine is gonna have some repairs done to the bottom of his 93 Cafe racer soon. Do you think there are a few MPH in the bottom of that hull??

laszlo01 08-31-2010 08:10 PM

Question. Brett and I where debating pros and cons on turning out and turning in on the props, what characteristics would there be for turning props in ? Just curious.

slboatdrinks 08-31-2010 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by laszlo01 (Post 3196521)
Question. Brett and I where debating pros and cons on turning out and turning in on the props, what characteristics would there be for turning props in ? Just curious.

We had to run with props turning in due to an intermediate shift cable breaking on our starboard drive. (Starboard drive was stuck in reverse).

Turning in created way too much stern lift. It was an interesting experience though. We ran from Key West back to Pompano like that.

Stick with props turning out.
Steve

laszlo01 08-31-2010 09:01 PM

I guess i need to clarify, if you where to build a set of props made for lower stearn lift and made to turn in has there been any testing done for this configuration ?

slboatdrinks 08-31-2010 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by laszlo01 (Post 3196599)
I guess i need to clarify, if you where to build a set of props made for lower stearn lift and made to turn in has there been any testing done for this configuration ?

Not to my knowledge.

laszlo01 11-02-2010 07:40 AM

Update, Final props from BBlades are on and turning wonderfully, ended up dropping the drives 1" and reducing the prop diamater to 15" on the 5 blade maximus props, went from 23% prop slip to 16% and the boat is now running on rails once again at high speeds. Plane time is acceptable, Mid range punch will put you in the seat and trim is back to normal operating between 3-5 and neutral tab settings. We would like to Officially introduce Energy Crisis to the 100+ MPH club now running Kustom Marine power with full fuel @ 900' above sea level and fresh water. Cant wait to see how it likes the salt water in key west with a light load.

tizbad4 11-02-2010 07:46 AM

Is that smile still on your face?

laszlo01 11-02-2010 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by tizbad4 (Post 3244242)
Is that smile still on your face?

Better believe it my friend !

slboatdrinks 11-02-2010 07:52 AM

Congrats Laz.

Nice work.
Steve

crb76 11-02-2010 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by laszlo01 (Post 3244235)
Cant wait to see how it likes the salt water in k light load.

If I were a betting man, I would say it will run 112!

customryder 11-02-2010 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by crb76 (Post 3244958)
If I were a betting man, I would say it will run 112!

maybe!! life at 83.2 sure gets old!:lolhit:

customryder 11-02-2010 10:40 PM

what pitch and rpm are you at now?

laszlo01 11-03-2010 02:19 PM

33x15 Maximus ran it up to 5500 and was running a solid 100+ and limiters are now set at 6200, pretty sure i can bump to 34x15 still. Weather was pretty cold out so we just did a quick pull and got back in, wanted to test the 1"drop in drives to see how it handled for KW. Will do a light load run to see how it likes the salt water next week.

P.S. still running low boost. :evilb:

TWIN-SPINS 11-03-2010 04:40 PM

g.p.s. or speedo,,,lol,,,that is a sweet number

ACTIVESHACK 11-03-2010 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by laszlo01 (Post 3245462)
33x15 Maximus ran it up to 5500 and was running a solid 100+ and limiters are now set at 6200, pretty sure i can bump to 34x15 still. Weather was pretty cold out so we just did a quick pull and got back in, wanted to test the 1"drop in drives to see how it handled for KW. Will do a light load run to see how it likes the salt water next week.

P.S. still running low boost. :evilb:

Dont run off and leave me on the way to Key West :lolhit:

activemike 11-04-2010 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by laszlo01 (Post 3245462)
33x15 Maximus ran it up to 5500 and was running a solid 100+ and limiters are now set at 6200, pretty sure i can bump to 34x15 still. Weather was pretty cold out so we just did a quick pull and got back in, wanted to test the 1"drop in drives to see how it handled for KW. Will do a light load run to see how it likes the salt water next week.

P.S. still running low boost. :evilb:

salt water adds 5 mph (113mph is my guess lol ) see you in key west

laszlo01 11-05-2010 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by ACTIVESHACK (Post 3245658)
Dont run off and leave me on the way to Key West :lolhit:

No worries we will be running heavy with Captain, Crown and Goose on board, maybe even some Miller Light. :lolhit:

ACTIVESHACK 11-05-2010 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by laszlo01 (Post 3246825)
No worries we will be running heavy with Captain, Crown and Goose on board, maybe even some Miller Light. :lolhit:

I can help you lighten up that load of Goose :drink:

laszlo01 11-07-2010 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by ACTIVESHACK (Post 3247022)
I can help you lighten up that load of Goose :drink:

Sounds like a plan.

NEVERSATISFIED 11-08-2010 12:02 PM

laszlo
Have a good trip and take plenty of pictures.
Steve


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