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This was somewhat brought up very quickly before but how would the new 29 be with twins? I imagine BB would be way too tight, if possible at all, but what about some small twins? Is it better balanced with a single BB? Cost and space not worth it? Leaving it simple and having an entry market model (for a lack of better words)? I would much rather just step up to a 33 if going twins. The 33 is my favorite so it's hard to explain but just wondering?
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This was somewhat brought up very quickly before but how would the new 29 be with twins? I imagine BB would be way too tight, if possible at all, but what about some small twins? Is it better balanced with a single BB? Cost and space not worth it? Leaving it simple and having an entry market model (for a lack of better words)? I would much rather just step up to a 33 if going twins. The 33 is my favorite so it's hard to explain but just wondering?
Wiring, controls, gauges, pumps, batteries; all that adds up in weight and cost; no matter twin BBC or SBC. It prices itself out of reach to do so in a 29' package.
Single/Twin OB or Single BBC
Single 350HP Mercury outboard, light layup, light on options, DDC (added efficiency) hull--> that would be a unique boat.
Single 557HP SevenMarine outboard = ridiculous.
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Thanks Brian! I was just wondering since a couple/few 28's were made with twins. I wasn't sure how a twin I/o would be. I could be wrong, but I thought you or pat said that the 28 was more balanced with the single BB. I wasn't sure if the new changes would warrant twins or not and ride/fly better?
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From: west palm beach FL,
Will do twin OBs, but not I/O.
Wiring, controls, gauges, pumps, batteries; all that adds up in weight and cost; no matter twin BBC or SBC. It prices itself out of reach to do so in a 29' package.
Single/Twin OB or Single BBC
Single 350HP Mercury outboard, light layup, light on options, DDC (added efficiency) hull--> that would be a unique boat.
Single 557HP SevenMarine outboard = ridiculous.
Wiring, controls, gauges, pumps, batteries; all that adds up in weight and cost; no matter twin BBC or SBC. It prices itself out of reach to do so in a 29' package.
Single/Twin OB or Single BBC
Single 350HP Mercury outboard, light layup, light on options, DDC (added efficiency) hull--> that would be a unique boat.
Single 557HP SevenMarine outboard = ridiculous.
#115
I'm a little curious about why you would want to do this mikebrls? I mean, you are talking about essentially removing the technology that would make the boat fast AND reliable, in order to go slightly faster and likely spend time on the dock? What would be the perceived advantage of the straight hull, no pad or step?
What does a 28 currently run with a single 700? And, more importantly what drive is on it?
I wonder what a single 565/XR in the new 29 with the DDC hull would do in comparison?
Makes me wonder if the juice would be worth the squeeze, knowwhatimsayin?
What does a 28 currently run with a single 700? And, more importantly what drive is on it?
I wonder what a single 565/XR in the new 29 with the DDC hull would do in comparison?
Makes me wonder if the juice would be worth the squeeze, knowwhatimsayin?
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I'm a little curious about why you would want to do this mikebrls? I mean, you are talking about essentially removing the technology that would make the boat fast AND reliable, in order to go slightly faster and likely spend time on the dock? What would be the perceived advantage of the straight hull, no pad or step?
What does a 28 currently run with a single 700? And, more importantly what drive is on it?
I wonder what a single 565/XR in the new 29 with the DDC hull would do in comparison?
Makes me wonder if the juice would be worth the squeeze, knowwhatimsayin?
What does a 28 currently run with a single 700? And, more importantly what drive is on it?
I wonder what a single 565/XR in the new 29 with the DDC hull would do in comparison?
Makes me wonder if the juice would be worth the squeeze, knowwhatimsayin?
This is only my opinion of what I have been threw in my last 8 boats " 2- 38's 1-35 2- 28's 1-25 1-20 1-19 " down here in south Florida
mike
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I'm a little curious about why you would want to do this mikebrls? I mean, you are talking about essentially removing the technology that would make the boat fast AND reliable, in order to go slightly faster and likely spend time on the dock? What would be the perceived advantage of the straight hull, no pad or step?
What does a 28 currently run with a single 700? And, more importantly what drive is on it?
I wonder what a single 565/XR in the new 29 with the DDC hull would do in comparison?
Makes me wonder if the juice would be worth the squeeze, knowwhatimsayin?
What does a 28 currently run with a single 700? And, more importantly what drive is on it?
I wonder what a single 565/XR in the new 29 with the DDC hull would do in comparison?
Makes me wonder if the juice would be worth the squeeze, knowwhatimsayin?
A nice 700 to 800 hp NA motor will last just as long as say a merc 525 .
with my old 28 I had a NA 750 and the best it ran with the moon aligned was 84 mph but I took that prop off and went 2 inches smaller so I would have the mid-range throttle response for jumping wave's with that prop top speed was around 76 mph anytime anywhere with any amount of weight on the boat .
I want a boat that has put you in your seat acceleration
top end speed is overrated in the ocean . and a I also what to cruise @ 60 mph @ 3700 rpm to 4000 rpm for motor longevity mike
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Also I can only compare from my 28 pantera and from I have herd the 28 A T is a bit faster and lighter with same power .
A nice 700 to 800 hp NA motor will last just as long as say a merc 525 .
with my old 28 I had a NA 750 and the best it ran with the moon aligned was 84 mph but I took that prop off and went 2 inches smaller so I would have the mid-range throttle response for jumping wave's with that prop top speed was around 76 mph anytime anywhere with any amount of weight on the boat .
I want a boat that has put you in your seat acceleration
top end speed is overrated in the ocean . and a I also what to cruise @ 60 mph @ 3700 rpm to 4000 rpm for motor longevity
mike
A nice 700 to 800 hp NA motor will last just as long as say a merc 525 .
with my old 28 I had a NA 750 and the best it ran with the moon aligned was 84 mph but I took that prop off and went 2 inches smaller so I would have the mid-range throttle response for jumping wave's with that prop top speed was around 76 mph anytime anywhere with any amount of weight on the boat .
I want a boat that has put you in your seat acceleration
top end speed is overrated in the ocean . and a I also what to cruise @ 60 mph @ 3700 rpm to 4000 rpm for motor longevity mike
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I'm not talking engine life...although I have my doubts that a 700 or 800 hp motor would be quite as reliable as a stock Merc 520, 525 or 565....I'm talking DRIVE life. What is going to live behind 700-800 hp? IMCO SCX? And if your stated goal is torque for "wave-jumping," I'd say that would be a major concern.
Basically, what you are saying is that you want MORE horsepower to make an antiquated hull design perform in approximately the same manner as milder horsepower with an advanced hull design. This doesn't make a lot of sense to me...but hey, everyone has an opinion.
Basically, what you are saying is that you want MORE horsepower to make an antiquated hull design perform in approximately the same manner as milder horsepower with an advanced hull design. This doesn't make a lot of sense to me...but hey, everyone has an opinion.


