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Bad Ass TA WS6 11-08-2005 10:38 PM

Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-5707.html

I've had this boat on my desktop for awhile now. It's unique, and in the pics, looks cherry.

That price, is just incredible. No power, yes, but I mean why so cheap? It almost makes me think my 20 year old ass can afford it?

I just don't understand it. It's got some pretty cool little touches as well.

So what do the experts say? How much to get that thing going mint! Is a staggered setup possible? How much do you think she weighs with a half cabin?

Rob

Bad Ass TA WS6 11-08-2005 11:22 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
OK, so I searched a little more, and found a few more facts.

- It mas made at the original Apache building

-It was a charter boat in Florida, possibly in Europe as well.

Which kind of sucks, it's probably had the hell beaten out of it.

-A staggered setup doesn't look possible. It's got a funky hatch design so it seems.

Even if it is a beaten charter boat, it doesn't look it. Kind of disapointing, but still.... Why so damn cheap?

DirtyMoney 11-09-2005 12:12 AM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
Staggered is possible but hatch is the least of worries. 3 motors would cost 100k.

Comanche3Six 11-09-2005 04:13 AM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
There is another like that boat with low hours that might be for sale.
pm Slingshot

Nykamp 11-09-2005 07:22 AM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
Fred Kiekhaefer had an awsome one that had twins that where staggered, loved that boat. It was at a poker run up here when it ws brand new, back in the early 90's, I think.

SLINGSHOT 11-09-2005 07:55 AM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
only one of two triples that i know of and i have the other one.....

SLINGSHOT 11-09-2005 07:58 AM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
[QUOTE=Why so damn cheap?[/QUOTE]


triple engines cost a lot to maintain and the fact that is says comanche turn your apache guys off.......same bottom,different top deck,( cleaner in my opinion thats why i liked mine, plus triples in a 42)

Bad Ass TA WS6 11-09-2005 12:38 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
Yeah I guess I know what you're saying now. I like the older Apaches much better. Not for any particular reason.

Still though, $75K seems dirt cheap for that boat.

I found a picture that showed "Paradigm" on the back of the boat.

So I google searched it and finally found this.

http://www.incredible-adventures.com...e_details.html

20,000lb. boat loaded :eek: 140 gallons of fuel burned hourly at 4k.

And a replacement cost of $700,000 big ones. That's quite the depreciation.

Rob

Nykamp 11-09-2005 12:50 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
It would be more than 700 for a new 42 triple.

bryanspeedracer 11-09-2005 12:54 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
For what it's worth, I really like the Comanchees. There is no way I'll afford a triple engine boat, but a 36 that's a different story...

Out of curiosity, how many and what size Comanchees were built?

Bryan

BLee 11-09-2005 01:35 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
I think it's pretty cool as well. The wet sump 6's would take some of the price off as opposed to dry.

SLINGSHOT 11-09-2005 01:57 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 

Originally Posted by Nykamp
It would be more than 700 for a new 42 triple.


i was told mine was around 950k new in 1994....so i imagine that they would be every bit of that now with trips

Comanche3Six 11-10-2005 04:46 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 

Originally Posted by bryanspeedracer
For what it's worth, I really like the Comanchees. There is no way I'll afford a triple engine boat, but a 36 that's a different story...

Out of curiosity, how many and what size Comanchees were built?

Bryan

50 ft Comanche

Comanche3Six 11-10-2005 07:10 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
42 ft Comanche

Comanche3Six 11-11-2005 07:38 AM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
36 ft Comanche

ScottB 11-11-2005 11:17 AM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
That boat is John Arrudas personal boat. He never really used it commercially because Turbine Marine took off so well.
It was sold to a guy who was going to repower it with turbines.
Subsequently, the deal fell through and we already had the motors sold.
The boat has been meticulously maintained like everything John has. If you've seen his shop you'd know.
Now he is parting it out. He is way too busy with racing and buliding turbines to use it.
The drives are available as well.
Paradigm powerboats is now the brokerage arm of Turbine Marine

Cigaretteman 11-11-2005 12:08 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
Here are the real story on the boat or close to anyway: The boat was a charterboat in Florida for a few years until a guy from Sweden bought it and had it flown on a plane to Stockholm Sweden. He used it for I belive 2 seasons and traded it in on a 50 foot Nortech cat with 4 engines. The boat had 850-900 KE engines that was ready for freshning. As per my information he was dissapointet in the boats performance.

Cigaretteman

bryanspeedracer 11-11-2005 12:51 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
Are these hulls the same hull mold that McManus is using for the Apache line?

I really like that 36 of yours, Comanche3six...

Bryan

Comanche3Six 11-11-2005 01:06 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 

Originally Posted by bryanspeedracer
Are these hulls the same hull mold that McManus is using for the Apache line?

I really like that 36 of yours, Comanche3six...

Bryan

McManus says yes it is the same hull as the Apache, the Comanche deck has round lines as opposed to the square, straight lines of the Apache. I just had a hatch built for my 36 out of Kevlar and it blends perfect with the round deck, I was completely satisfied with the workmanship.

LEOPAJM 11-11-2005 02:07 PM

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Nice shot of your 36 there Ed !!!!

Comanche3Six 11-11-2005 02:59 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 

Originally Posted by LEOPAJM
Nice shot of your 36 there Ed !!!!

Thanks Jerry

Bad Ass TA WS6 11-12-2005 07:38 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
I've got quite a few pictures of your boat as well. It's a sweet rig. There aren't many of those out there. :drink:

It would take me so long to get that 42' running if I bought it.
Besides the fact that 93oct on thelake is close to $4.00.

Would make a nice conversation piece though. :D

Comanche3Six 11-12-2005 09:15 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 

Originally Posted by Bad Ass TA WS6
I've got quite a few pictures of your boat as well. It's a sweet rig. There aren't many of those out there. :drink:

It would take me so long to get that 42' running if I bought it.
Besides the fact that 93oct on thelake is close to $4.00.

Would make a nice conversation piece though. :D


Thanks for the compliment.
These boats can eat up time and money, but we want them anyway. I would love to have a 41 or 47.
Ed

Comanche3Six 11-14-2005 07:47 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 

Originally Posted by Nykamp
Fred Kiekhaefer had an awsome one that had twins that where staggered, loved that boat. It was at a poker run up here when it ws brand new, back in the early 90's, I think.

Steve
Got any pics of that powerboat?
Ed

Nykamp 11-14-2005 07:55 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
Sorry Ed I don't have any photos, PowerBoat Mag. did a story years ago where they race his boat against a fast car up or down the coast of florida. Its a sweet ride, take care, Steve.

ApacheCarl 11-15-2005 09:28 AM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 

Originally Posted by Nykamp
Sorry Ed I don't have any photos, PowerBoat Mag. did a story years ago where they race his boat against a fast car up or down the coast of florida. Its a sweet ride, take care, Steve.


Fred's boat was called Off Duty. It was a very detailed boat. The dash had some awesome laser engraving. Don't know what happened to that one.

Nykamp 11-15-2005 10:52 AM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
Off Duty is in a warehouse in Ft. Lauderdale, last I heard. Steve

ApacheCarl 11-15-2005 02:22 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 

Originally Posted by Nykamp
Off Duty is in a warehouse in Ft. Lauderdale, last I heard. Steve

Show off :rolleyes: ................................

Nykamp 11-15-2005 02:49 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
I had lunch in Lauderdale last year with Tonto and one of his buddys named Scottie who said he would be working on her. Carl didn't the dash all cartoon figured engraved on the panels?

ApacheCarl 11-15-2005 03:00 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 

Originally Posted by Nykamp
I had lunch in Lauderdale last year with Tonto and one of his buddys named Scottie who said he would be working on her. Carl didn't the dash all cartoon figured engraved on the panels?

Yea, like the blowers had a uninflated puffer fish for off, and puffed up one for on. The tabs down switch had a beaver with his tail aimed down. stuff like that. Funny thing was you knew exactly what everything did, no need for letters. Was really cool.

woogie 11-15-2005 10:18 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
You guys must be young - good memories ... Off Duty had lot of Bling back then. Nykamp - yes she was on one of the first Poker Runs up here - 90? Real looker -I'll try and dig up some pics. Tied up with Ohio Steel / young Reggie for lunch at Point West. Good times.. Quite the paint/colors for the day - think those were big water droplets?. Think she just said McManus on it. Was she one of the first from McManus Shop?

Yep, I remember too - PB did a build up with Fred in Off Duty and a Stunt driver in a Ferrari? racing from Miami to Key West. Fred had to stop for gas - go figure...and stunt guy got ticket. Was nice heli shot of car on bridge and Off Duty running next to it. Can't remember what power she had back then..

Comanche3Six 11-16-2005 04:08 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 

Originally Posted by woogie
Off Duty . Can't remember what power she had back then..

Merc 800's with 6 drives?

ApacheCarl 11-16-2005 05:13 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 

Originally Posted by Comanche3Six
Merc 800's with 6 drives?

Yep :)

thedonz 11-28-2005 03:35 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
look what i found http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/0/3/79748803.htm :evilb:

jr mike

Bad Ass TA WS6 11-28-2005 07:28 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
Eh, I've never been impressed with that boat at all. It used to be up here on Winnepesauke. Old man Fitzgerald owned it. Those guys must have bought it from him, it sat out front of Fitgerald Motorsports for quite some time.

Said it ran in the 60s, but that thing had a hard enough time getting on plane. :D He wanted somewhere in the area of $170-$190 for it. :rolleyes:

It's been on boat trader for a long time as well.

bryanspeedracer 11-28-2005 08:16 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
To each his own, but I really like Snakedance. Why has it been for sale so long?

SLINGSHOT 11-29-2005 08:38 AM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 
bravos! boat is way to heavy for that...swap out for 6's and that boat is bad ass with more hp of cousre

Bad Ass TA WS6 11-29-2005 05:58 PM

Re: Ok, so what gives? 42' Comanche
 

Originally Posted by SLINGSHOT
bravos! boat is way to heavy for that...swap out for 6's and that boat is bad ass with more hp of cousre

I agree, the color scheme wouldn't be my choice, nor the cabin laylout. Kind of peculiar. With some #6s and a big power staggered setup, the boat would be great. At leats deserving of its heritage...


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